New 40k edition

[Swan-of-War]

Chargers strike first?  Sold!

[fluger]

31 minutes ago, andozane said:

Hmmm...I hope it doesn't do the 6+ at worst...would prefer the old style...6+  followed by a 6+ kinda thing...But we shall see.  Of course there will be so many wounds on the larger vehicles maybe that will easily make up for the wounds....

I can virtually guarantee that there are going to be fewer reroll overall.

[The Last Guardsmen]

Oh. I was just a little baffled on how moral is going to work. I've been doing this since 3rd Ed so I'm trying to come to grips with some of these changes and I'm still a little muddled. On the bright side it'll be easier to teach new players with a simpler rule set.

[Lord Hanaur]

17 minutes ago, DasBox said:

Oh. I was just a little baffled on how moral is going to work. I've been doing this since 3rd Ed so I'm trying to come to grips with some of these changes and I'm still a little muddled. On the bright side it'll be easier to teach new players with a simpler rule set.

Morale is more like "Deserters".  The number of failures = the number of soldiers who lose their grit and run, throwing their arms down or what have you.

[tombking]

The WS BS stats are interesting. They just flat out say what you need to roll rather than having to check a chart. I wonder how that will work out for Assault?

[pretre]

4 minutes ago, tombking said:

The WS BS stats are interesting. They just flat out say what you need to roll rather than having to check a chart. I wonder how that will work out for Assault?

You'll just roll your attacks without taking your opponent into account and he will do the same. No one will be better at defending.

[Sugarlessllama]

According to the Foley Twitter feed, Charging Units attack first, afterwards units will fight in alternating activations. I like the sound of that.

[WestRider]

22 minutes ago, pretre said:

You'll just roll your attacks without taking your opponent into account and he will do the same. No one will be better at defending.

Or if there are Units that are better at defending, it will be some unique rule on their dataslate giving Attackers -1 to Hit or making them re-roll 6s or something.

[The Last Guardsmen]

55 minutes ago, Lord Hanaur said:

Translation from English to Imperial Gothic: Get more Commissars

Ok. I can make this work,.

[InfestedKerrigan]

Just wait til you see the ld4 guardsmen

[Sugarlessllama]

13 minutes ago, InfestedKerrigan said:

Just wait til you see the ld4 guardsmen

I wouldn't worry about it. There are plenty of examples of Leadership modifiers in AoS, and I am sure that the same will appear in 40K.

[pretre]

I can't wait to face all my tanks away from my opponents just to make them feel vaguely uncomfortable.

[Threejacks]

Looking at the baseline stats here,I can say that if its anything like AoS,there is a F ton of variable outcomes once you take into account all the bespoke unit card rules.Keeping Str and Toughness is interesting as well..cant wait to see a complete dataslate.

 

  This is looking really good folks!

[Lord Hanaur]

5 minutes ago, pretre said:

I can't wait to face all my tanks away from my opponents just to make them feel vaguely uncomfortable.

hehehe,  That actually is a funny point.  I hadn't thought of that.

[The Last Guardsmen]

20 minutes ago, pretre said:

I can't wait to face all my tanks away from my opponents just to make them feel vaguely uncomfortable.

And now I'm giggling like an idiot.

[pretre]

It'll take people a while but they'll get giddy when I 'make a mistake' and then feel silly when they realize it doesn't matter anymore.

the same thing happened a bunch when I would measure templates in the movement phase and people thought I forgot to finish moving. Good times.

[WestRider]

I used to sometimes do sort of the opposite: "Are you sure you want to give me rear shots on that Land Raider?" ;)

[Romans832]

1 minute ago, WestRider said:

I used to sometimes do sort of the opposite: "Are you sure you want to give me rear shots on that Land Raider?" ;)

ROFL!

That's awesome!

[Threejacks]

1 hour ago, pretre said:

I can't wait to face all my tanks away from my opponents just to make them feel vaguely uncomfortable.

Have they confirmed that there wont be vehicle facings?

 

[Psilence]

Ooooh,  land raiders might be Beasts again.

The thought makes me happy :)

[fluger]

1 hour ago, Threejacks said:

Have they confirmed that there wont be vehicle facings?

 

They already posted the Dreadnaught statline.  Facings are gone.

[Threejacks]

31 minutes ago, fluger said:

They already posted the Dreadnaught statline.  Facings are gone.

 Yes,,facinigs as you new them before...its still quite possible that they exist in a different way.Such as instead of having the old set armor values,,now each dataslate could very well have a rule that incoming hits on the front or side facing are saved at +1 to the base save,,or possibly reroll failed saves of 1,,or perhaps even add +1(or more) to the units toughness during wound resolution..or even reduce the amount of incoming damage by 1,d3 or even d6( to a minimum of 1 of course)...there is alot more they can do with these stat lines,,it has been a treat in AoS to see all the different things they have been coming up with modifications to just a basic stat line.

  Not saying they will do this,but I wouldnt be surprised if facing for vehicles is taken into account in some way shape or form:)

[InfestedKerrigan]

Doesnt mean there isn't modifier for facing. The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

[pretre]

You guys suck the fun out of everything. :)

[PumpkinHead]

I am not a fan of getting rid of the "to hit" table. That means if the great G.man is fighting his mirror image, he sucks at defence. Hitting on 2+ always is kind of lame. I liked the aspect that if a model had 2x+1 WS he could parry away a few attacks by making the opponent need a 5+ to hit.