Skkipper Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, PumpkinHead said: Not liking the 0-2 flyers on the detachment. That means you have to decide between crones, harpies, and flyrants, or take multiple detachments to try and fit them in. agreed. I have the fire raptor, storm eagle, heldrakes and assault pod that can't fit into one. hopefully there is an airforce detachment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted May 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 "These are just a taste of the options available. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Yeah, none of these have fortifications or lords of war either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Last Guardsmen Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 WARNING: Force Commander DasBox ran afoul of two Tau formations last Sunday and hasn't been the same since. I danced and capered about like a loon when I found out formations were going away. No more BS freebie super powers keeping honest us IG players down. Now you'll have to fight fair again universe! And WE just fixed bayonets.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 13 minutes ago, DasBox said: WARNING: Force Commander DasBox ran afoul of two Tau formations last Sunday and hasn't been the same since. I danced and capered about like a loon when I found out formations were going away. No more BS freebie super powers keeping honest us IG players down. Now you'll have to fight fair again universe! And WE just fixed bayonets.... I'm just hoping I can still field my all tank IG list... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarlessllama Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 I am really enjoying this change. Even though I have fielded plenty of formations, I know that a lot of people have been annoyed by them. I think this is going to put a lot of armies on equal footing and is going to be a positive change for the game, and the community. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarlessllama Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 minute ago, fluger said: I'm just hoping I can still field my all tank IG list... I'm sure you will be. I mean that is one of the major play styles for a major faction. It is sure to get some love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Last Guardsmen Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 I don't think formations would have bothered folks quite as much had some more effort been put into balancing them but I digress. Tanks'll be fine. I gett the feeling though they might get a reduced armor save from behind. Seems like a simple way of doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 27 minutes ago, DasBox said: I don't think formations would have bothered folks quite as much had some more effort been put into balancing them but I digress. Tanks'll be fine. I gett the feeling though they might get a reduced armor save from behind. Seems like a simple way of doing it. They probably also would have been better received if the very first one hadn't been one of the strongest. I love the idea of Formations, but the execution was terrible. Another cool thing about the new system is that, assuming there is a Detachment to run an all-Tank IG Army, that would also be usable to run an Armoured Krumpany or (Chaos) Space Marine Armoured Task Force, or any other Faction's all-Tank Army. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Last Guardsmen Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 I'm just going to miss my IG Melee Deathstar. I get the feeling I'm going to lose my relics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 25 minutes ago, WestRider said: They probably also would have been better received if the very first one hadn't been one of the strongest. I love the idea of Formations, but the execution was terrible. Another cool thing about the new system is that, assuming there is a Detachment to run an all-Tank IG Army, that would also be usable to run an Armoured Krumpany or (Chaos) Space Marine Armoured Task Force, or any other Faction's all-Tank Army. I've always wanted an effective Aurora Chapter all tank space marine force. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Glacius Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 How else will GW sell minis without giving unbalanced rules within formations?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottshoemaker Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 3 hours ago, PumpkinHead said: Not liking the 0-2 flyers on the detachment. That means you have to decide between crones, harpies, and flyrants, or take multiple detachments to try and fit them in. Those are only 3 detachments... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Come now Brother Glacius. Lol. Theyll find a way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 32 minutes ago, Brother Glacius said: How else will GW sell minis without giving unbalanced rules within formations?!?! These are just the free formati....detachments. The army books will have overpowered army detachments for you WAAC players ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 40 minutes ago, InfestedKerrigan said: The army books will have overpowered army detachments for you WAAC players ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, fluger said: I've always wanted an effective Aurora Chapter all tank space marine force. The Angels of Death book actually has a Decurion for that. I was kind of thinking of using it in a more casual game, taking all my SM Tanks, Chaos and Loyalist, and pooling them together. Pretty sure I've got 9 Predators, altogether :D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 I look forward to seeing if predators are worth their points. I just want a Land Raider with van vets a termie chaplain and then a ton of preds and a whirlwind or two. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 33 minutes ago, fluger said: I look forward to seeing if predators are worth their points. I just want a Land Raider with van vets a termie chaplain and then a ton of preds and a whirlwind or two. With the switch to wounds maybe landraiders will get so many they are worth their points! Maybe a rule that ignores effectiveness reductions who knows yay all new 40k! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainA Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 41 minutes ago, VonVilkee said: With the switch to wounds maybe landraiders will get so many they are worth their points! Maybe a rule that ignores effectiveness reductions who knows yay all new 40k! I for one would be super excited to see Land Raiders more often on the field! They are such a cool kit! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Last Guardsmen Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Behold a quote from the darkest pits of the internet: "Almost 20 years I have played 40k. It doesn't really change. New minis and new rules come about but it is always fundamentally the same game. You ether adapt, play an ageless army or you tumble into the pit with the other mewling spawn and bitch for eternity." -Anonymous I thought you all might find it something worthy of pondering. Not calling you whiners. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 What is an ageless 40k army? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Last Guardsmen Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 Just now, fluger said: What is an ageless 40k army? That's a good question. I'd argue any well organized IG army is ageless but I've been playing guard for ages. Simple Space Marine armies built around a Command Squad and two Tac. Squads might be qualified as "ageless". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PourSpelur Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, fluger said: What is an ageless 40k army? All wraithguard. BaDumBump! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkie Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, DasBox said: That's a good question. I'd argue any well organized IG army is ageless but I've been playing guard for ages. Simple Space Marine armies built around a Command Squad and two Tac. Squads might be qualified as "ageless". I'd argue that guard have randomly added and subtracted tank variants every time a book comes out, sometimes wildly. The 4th ed book had what 2 Leman Russ, a basilisk, and hellhound? Then 5th something like quadrupled the number of variants. But I get your point. They've always had essentially 3 unit profiles. Standard guardsmen, chimera chassis, and Leman Russ chassis. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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