pretre Posted June 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 So 12 points each (double the Hand Flamer price). But you get 1 Shot at S8 -4 D6 damage (pretty much always rolling two dice if you're in CC). Not horrible. Hmm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Oh, and I'd have to find a way to convert them since none of the Seraphim actually have INferno Pistols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 I have the same problem, needing to convert them. But overall they seem to make the unit way more versatile than the hand flamers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 It's too bad you can't lock Flyers into CC, Seraphim would be great at carving them up that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Just for you, I made this: The other seraphim call her 'lefty' (I happen to have 5 left handed Canoness inferno pistols in my bits box). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolby Hopkins Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 I played a 2000 point game over the weekend where I ran an outrider detachment and used dominions instead of regular battle sisters and just gave each squad 2 meltaguns and repressors. Being able to scout move and then normal move on t1 and be within melta range of my enemies tanks felt over the top powerful. I had crippled almost everything of value by the end of my second turn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 I seem to remember in 3rd edition, I added melta barrels to the bolt pistol girls to make Inferno pistols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Just now, Kolby Hopkins said: I played a 2000 point game over the weekend where I ran an outrider detachment and used dominions instead of regular battle sisters and just gave each squad 2 meltaguns and repressors. Being able to scout move and then normal move on t1 and be within melta range of my enemies tanks felt over the top powerful. I had crippled almost everything of value by the end of my second turn. I had thought about doing this, just accepting that our basic troop was 10 points and acting accordingly. I'm glad it worked out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kolby Hopkins said: I played a 2000 point game over the weekend where I ran an outrider detachment and used dominions instead of regular battle sisters and just gave each squad 2 meltaguns and repressors. Being able to scout move and then normal move on t1 and be within melta range of my enemies tanks felt over the top powerful. I had crippled almost everything of value by the end of my second turn. Kudos exploiting your opponent's ignorance! Bet they won't be deploying their valuable armor on the deployment line any more ;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dusldorf said: Kudos exploiting your opponent's ignorance! Bet they won't be deploying their valuable armor on the deployment line any more ;) Even without putting it on the line, you have: 12" + D6 Scout Move 12" Move and Shoot out the hatches So 36" + D6 Range of your meltaguns on turn one is pretty nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Just now, pretre said: Even without putting it on the line, you have: 12" + D6 Scout Move 12" Move and Shoot out the hatches So 36" + D6 Range of your meltaguns on turn one is pretty nice. Definitely nice. But putting the important stuff in back and a few less significant/vulnerable units in the way means you won't be pulling this trick twice. Some people never learn though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolby Hopkins Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, Dusldorf said: Definitely nice. But putting the important stuff in back and a few less significant/vulnerable units in the way means you won't be pulling this trick twice. Some people never learn though... it was the dawn of war deployment and my opponent had quite a few imperial guard weapon emplacements on his back edge. I moved forward off the line and ended 12 inches from his table edge with most of my tanks. I caught the edges of a few of his bigger pieces. Remember the repressor says measure range from any part of the hull so most things will have a very difficult time escaping that alpha strike. Honestly, the only drawback dominions have over basic sisters is you can't take a heavy flamer but on the flipside you can give your non melta sisters a storm bolter which is pretty awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolby Hopkins Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 17 minutes ago, Dusldorf said: Kudos exploiting your opponent's ignorance! Bet they won't be deploying their valuable armor on the deployment line any more ;) and in fairness i did warn him about the ability pre deployment, there just wasnt a lot of way for his setup to mitigate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Kolby Hopkins said: and in fairness i did warn him about the ability pre deployment, there just wasnt a lot of way for his setup to mitigate it. I dunno, to me it still sounds like a major misplay. Most imperial vehicles are less than 6" wide. He should have just stuck them sideways against his table edge and bubble-wrapped them by placing an infantry squad or two on the deployment line. That means it's impossible to get close enough for melta range (half range, that is) even if you roll a 6 for your advance scout move. Take advantage of terrain properly and you can extend the bubble further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolby Hopkins Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Just now, Dusldorf said: I dunno, to me it still sounds like a major misplay. Most imperial vehicles are less than 6" wide. He should have just stuck them sideways against his table edge and bubble-wrapped them by placing an infantry squad or two on the deployment line. That means it's impossible to get close enough even if you roll a 6 for your advance scout move. I would agree with that. Mainly I wanted to illustrate how powerful it is to have a scout move on all of our troops as a build option. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Just now, Kolby Hopkins said: I would agree with that. Mainly I wanted to illustrate how powerful it is to have a scout move on all of our troops as a build option. Yes, I totally agree with that. Really puts opponents on the defensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frowbakk Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 My go-to Seraphim with Twin Inferno Pistols conversion is to use the ends off of Kroot Rifles. Makes 'em look like Melta Silencers. I'm not able to get in any 8th Ed games in before the Friday event, so any 'experience' I have comes by way of this thread via osmosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, Frowbakk said: My go-to Seraphim with Twin Inferno Pistols conversion is to use the ends off of Kroot Rifles. Makes 'em look like Melta Silencers. I'm not able to get in any 8th Ed games in before the Friday event, so any 'experience' I have comes by way of this thread via osmosis. Yeah, if I run them, I'll probably just add 'melta silencers' to my Bolt Pistols. Easiest way and what i used to do anyways. Although Lefty is pretty amusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 So, amusing list, based on this conversation earlier: 5 CP Outrider 1 Canoness - 40 5 Doms with 2 Melta and Combi-Plasma - 99 5 Doms with 2 Melta and Combi-Plasma - 99 5 Doms with 2 Melta and Combi-Plasma - 99 5 Doms with 2 Melta and Combi-Plasma - 99 5 Doms with 2 Melta and Combi-Plasma - 99 Repressor with HF/SB - 90 Repressor with HF/SB - 90 Repressor with HF/SB - 90 Repressor with HF/SB - 90 Repressor with HF/SB - 90 Outrider 2 StC and 2G - 250 5 Seraph with 2 HF, CS/BP - 79 5 Seraph with 2 HF, CS/BP - 79 5 Seraph with 2 2xIP, CS/BP - 103 1496 All the scouting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 For my set of inferno pistols I chopped up the hand flamers... flattened the ends with a file, took off the tanks filed them flat in half (too small to cut), then glued the tank half to the body melta style... can't upload pictures it is slick and will be in the team frowbakk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Okay, Crippling First Strike List: Outrider Celestine and 2 G - 250 6 Seraphim with 2 Dual HF, PS/BP - 94 5 Seraphim with 2 Dual HF, PS/BP - 83 5 Doms with 4 Melta, Combi-Plasma - 133 5 Doms with 4 Melta, Combi-Plasma - 133 5 Doms with 4 Melta, Combi-Plasma - 133 Repressor with 2 SB, HF - 92 Repressor with 2 SB, HF - 92 Immolator with Sb, IF - 107 Eversor - 70 Callidus - 80 Vanguard Tempestor Prime with TCR - 40 4 Scions in Command Squad with 4 Plasma - 64 4 Scions in Command Squad with 4 Plasma - 64 4 Scions in Command Squad with 4 Plasma - 64 1499 Scions and Tempestor can deep strike. Eversor, Callidus and Celestine and the G's have a good chance of a turn 1 charge. Doms vanguard forward and nuke something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 More balanced. 6 Command Points at 1500 Spearhead - HQ - Canoness with Eviscerator/BP - 67 Heavy - 5 Ret with 4 HB - 85 Heavy - 5 Ret with 4 HB - 85 Heavy - 5 Ret with 4 HB - 85 Elite - Imagifer - 40 Elite - Imagifer - 40 Vanguard - HQ - Tempestor with Command Rod - 40 Troop - 33 Conscripts - 99 Elite - Commissar with BP/CS - 31 Elite - 4 MT Command Squad with 4 Plasma - 64 Elite - 4 MT Command Squad with 4 Plasma - 64 Outrider Detachment HQ - St C&2G - 250 Fast - 10 Seraphim with 2 HF, Power Sword/BP- 138 Fast - 5 Doms with 3 Melta, Combi-Plasma/Chainsword - 116 DT - Repressor with HF/SB - 90 Fast - 5 Doms with 3 Melta, Combi-Plasma/Chainsword - 116 DT - Repressor with HF/SB - 90 Canoness Eviscerator gives me some heroic countercharge on the Conscript blob. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 42 minutes ago, pretre said: More balanced. 6 Command Points at 1500 Spearhead - HQ - Canoness with Eviscerator/BP - 67 Heavy - 5 Ret with 4 HB - 85 Heavy - 5 Ret with 4 HB - 85 Heavy - 5 Ret with 4 HB - 85 Elite - Imagifer - 40 Elite - Imagifer - 40 Vanguard - HQ - Tempestor with Command Rod - 40 Troop - 33 Conscripts - 99 Elite - Commissar with BP/CS - 31 Elite - 4 MT Command Squad with 4 Plasma - 64 Elite - 4 MT Command Squad with 4 Plasma - 64 Outrider Detachment HQ - St C&2G - 250 Fast - 10 Seraphim with 2 HF, Power Sword/BP- 138 Fast - 5 Doms with 3 Melta, Combi-Plasma/Chainsword - 116 DT - Repressor with HF/SB - 90 Fast - 5 Doms with 3 Melta, Combi-Plasma/Chainsword - 116 DT - Repressor with HF/SB - 90 Canoness Eviscerator gives me some heroic countercharge on the Conscript blob. My favorite so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Dusldorf said: My favorite so far Really? Okay. I'm tinkering a bit with that one now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 6 Command Points at 1500 Spearhead - HQ - Canoness with Eviscerator/BP - 67 Heavy - 5 Ret with 4 HB - 85 Heavy - 5 Ret with 4 HB - 85 Heavy - 5 Ret with 4 HB - 85 Elite - Imagifer - 40 Elite - Imagifer - 40 Vanguard - HQ - Tempestor with Command Rod - 40 Troop - 34 Conscripts - 102 Elite - Commissar with BP/CS - 31 Elite - 4 MT Command Squad with 4 Plasma - 64 Elite - 4 MT Command Squad with 4 Plasma - 64 Outrider Detachment HQ - St C&1G - 200 Fast - 5 Seraphim with 2 x dual HF, Power Sword/BP- 83 Fast - 5 Seraphim with 2 x dual HF, Power Sword/BP- 83 Fast - 5 Doms with 4 Melta, Combi-Plasma/BP - 133 DT - Repressor with HF/SB - 90 Fast - 5 Doms with 3 Melta, Combi-Plasma/BP - 116 DT - Repressor with HF/SBx2 - 92 Okay, tiny changes above. So getting it ready: - Canoness needs a new BP hand painted. - Squad colors (hair) across the board needs updating - My Magnetized Inquisitor is going to be the tempestor prime so I need to paint his command rod. - I need to paint ~10 conscripts. I have plenty of painted redemptionists, but a lot of them are weapon and pistol so I had to swap them out for ones that had lasguns/autoguns. - Paint 8 plasma guns for my MT. The minis are good, I just had to do a bunch of weapon swaps. - Paint ~7 HB rets. - Add an extra SB to one of my repressors - Paint one combi-plasma for my doms - Have my wife finish Celestine and the Gems (although I only need one done for this) - A bunch of models need magnetic bases added to work with my case. So not horrible and definitely doable before the Friday event. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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