pretre Posted August 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 Apparently you need to pay for hotshot lasguns. Whoops. 10 CP at 2k Battalion (+3 CP) HQ - Tempestor with Command Rod - 40 HQ - Lord Commissar (BP/Power Sword) - 55 Ob-Sec Troop - 36 Conscripts - 108 Ob-Sec Troop - 5 Tempestus Scions with 2 Plasma and PP, 2 Hotshots - 66 Ob-Sec Troop - 5 Tempestus Scions with 2 Plasma and PP, 2 Hotshots - 66 Heavy - Manticore with HB - 133 Elite - 4 Tempestus Scions with 4 Plasma - 64 Battalion (+3 CP) HQ - St Celestine & one Gemini - 200 HQ - Canoness with Power Maul/BP - 49 Fast - 5 Doms with 4 Melta, Sup with Chainsword/BP/CombiP - 133 DT - Repressor with HF/SB - 90 Fast - 5 Doms with 4 Melta, Sup with Chainsword/BP/CombiP - 133 DT - Repressor with HF/SB - 90 Fast - 8 Seraphim, Superior with BP/Power Sword - 92 Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51 Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51 DT - Repressor with HF/SBx2 - 92 Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51 Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51 DT - Repressor with HF/SBx2 - 92 Heavy - 5 Ret with 4 HB, Sup with Bolter/BP/Chainsword - 85 Vanguard (+1 CP) HQ - Tempestor with Command Rod - 40 Elite - 4 Tempestus Scions with 4 Plasma - 64 Elite - Eversor - 70 Elite - Culexus - 85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 And I just converted some inferno pistol sisters for my Seraphim 10 CP at 2k Battalion (+3 CP) HQ - Tempestor with Command Rod - 40 HQ - Lord Commissar (BP/Power Sword) - 55 Ob-Sec Troop - 32 Conscripts - 96 Ob-Sec Troop - 5 Tempestus Scions with 2 Plasma and PP, 2 Hotshots - 66 Ob-Sec Troop - 5 Tempestus Scions with 2 Plasma and PP, 2 Hotshots - 66 Heavy - Manticore with HB - 133 Elite - 4 Tempestus Scions with 4 Plasma - 64 Battalion (+3 CP) HQ - St Celestine & one Gemini - 200 HQ - Canoness with Power Maul/BP - 49 Fast - 5 Doms with 4 Melta, Sup with Chainsword/BP/Bolter - 118 DT - Repressor with HF/SB - 90 Fast - 5 Doms with 4 Melta, Sup with Chainsword/BP/Bolter - 118 DT - Repressor with HF/SB - 90 Fast - 7 Seraphim, 4 Inferno Pistols, Superior with Chainsword/Bolt Pistol - 125 Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51 Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51 DT - Repressor with HF/SBx2 - 92 Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51 Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51 DT - Repressor with HF/SB - 90 Heavy - 5 Ret with 4 HB, Sup with Bolter/BP/Chainsword - 85 Vanguard (+1 CP) HQ - Tempestor with Command Rod - 40 Elite - 4 Tempestus Scions with 4 Plasma - 64 Elite - Eversor - 70 Elite - Culexus - 85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frowbakk Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 What about some ObSec 5 BSS with 2 Flamers & (optional) Superior w/CombiFlamer to ride along with the Dominions in their Repressors? Dominions crack open the shell, BSS flambe' the meat formerly inside the transports, and/or provide a charge-discouraging Wall of Flamey Goodness from inside the Repressors in the charge phase while the Dominions melta out during the shooting phase. Still getting used to Sisters vehicles with sufficient fire points. I got in the habit of making wedges from Rhinos/Immolators, deploying shooty Sisters inbetween the tanks and shooting through the 1.99999" gap between to receive no charges in return. Previous edition hangovers are a bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Frowbakk said: What about some ObSec 5 BSS with 2 Flamers & (optional) Superior w/CombiFlamer to ride along with the Dominions in their Repressors? Dominions crack open the shell, BSS flambe' the meat formerly inside the transports, and/or provide a charge-discouraging Wall of Flamey Goodness from inside the Repressors in the charge phase while the Dominions melta out during the shooting phase. Still getting used to Sisters vehicles with sufficient fire points. I got in the habit of making wedges from Rhinos/Immolators, deploying shooty Sisters inbetween the tanks and shooting through the 1.99999" gap between to receive no charges in return. Previous edition hangovers are a bitch. If they ride with the Doms, they lose Vanguard. An earlier version had double Doms in the Repressors, but I swapped it out for obsec. And yes, I'm still getting used to all of the changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 Okay, so finalizing the list. I got all the models I need minimum base coated. Waiting on 2 storm bolters that I bits bought in the mail for the sups, and I'm good to go for conversions. Finished up converting the new scion squad and getting it painted the other day. Got the plasma pistols added and painted. Made a second TCR for the other tempestus prime and got that painted. Airbrush based all the new sisters and backpacks (yay, I love airbrushes). Added and painted a hammer for the Canoness. Converted and painted a bunch of Chainswords for sups, as well as SB for two of the sups. I swapped models for the Lord Commissar, since as much as I love the Redeemer model, he doesn't have a power sword. :( Todo: - Add and paint two storm bolter bits to existing superiors - Paint one heavy flamer on a repressor - Paint 7 storm bolter sisters for the troops - Rebase my two assassins - Add washers to a dozen or so models that haven't previously been magnetized and paint over the edge of the bases 10 CP at 2k Battalion (+3 CP)Leonidas Twiceborn - HQ - Tempestor with Command Rod - 40Inqusitor Jarr- HQ - Lord Commissar (BP/Power Sword) - 55 Brethren of the Red Redemption - Ob-Sec Troop - 32 Conscripts - 96Leonidan Inquisitorial Stormtroopers - Ob-Sec Troop - 5 Tempestus Scions with 2 Plasma and PP, 2 Hotshots - 66Leonidan Inquisitorial Stormtroopers - Ob-Sec Troop - 5 Tempestus Scions with 2 Plasma and PP, 2 Hotshots - 66 Inquisitorial Bombardment Platform - Heavy - Manticore with HB - 133Leonidan Purgation Team Alpha - Elite - 4 Tempestus Scions with 4 Plasma - 64 Battalion (+3 CP)St Seraphine and Sister Rolandsdotr - HQ - St Celestine & one Gemini - 200Canoness Evangela - HQ - Canoness with Power Maul/BP - 49 His Retribution - Fast - 5 Doms with 4 Melta, Sup with Chainsword/BP/Bolter - 118 DT - Repressor with HF/SB - 90His Anger - Fast - 5 Doms with 4 Melta, Sup with Chainsword/BP/Bolter - 118 DT - Repressor with HF/SB - 90His Fury - Fast - 7 Seraphim, 4 Inferno Pistols, Superior with Chainsword/BP - 125 His Pain - Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51His Loss - Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51 DT - Repressor with HF/SBx2 - 92His Suffering - Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51His Agony - Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51 DT - Repressor with HF/SB - 90 His Deliverance - Heavy - 5 Ret with 4 HB, Sup with Bolter/BP/Chainsword - 85 Vanguard (+1 CP)Inquisitor Lord Bellarol Tusand - HQ - Tempestor with Command Rod - 40Leonidan Purgation Team Beta - Elite - 4 Tempestus Scions with 4 Plasma - 64Gluttony - Elite - Eversor - 70Pride - Elite - Culexus - 85 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 So, adding to my paint workload, I'm in the process of trading for two Geminae. I may end up converting those to make my inferno pistol sisters instead of the heavies I'm using right now. Other than that, things are moving right along. Washers are done, but now I need to paint them black so they don't clash. SB sisters are mostly there. Waiting for my two remaining SB bits to come in the mail and I think I'm in good shape for the event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 On 8/21/2017 at 11:06 AM, pretre said: Todo: - Add and paint two storm bolter bits to existing superiors (still waiting for delivery) - Paint one heavy flamer on a repressor - Paint 7 storm bolter sisters for the troops - Rebase my two assassins and add flock to a few 'new' minis - Add washers to a dozen or so models that haven't previously been magnetized and paint over the edge of the bases 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 All done, although now I have two Geminae that I'm probably going to convert into Inferno Pistol seraphim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Okay, so I think this may be a slight upgrade: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Although now that I think of it, I may have to take off their new style jump packs and replace them with my converted ones that have the swooping hawk wings, just so they fit in. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Okay, modifications now that the new guard book is out: 10 CP at 2k Battalion (+3 CP) (Astra Mil Detachment. Valhallan and MT)Leonidas Twiceborn - HQ - Tempestor with Command Rod - 40Inqusitor Jarr- HQ - Lord Commissar (BP/Power Sword) - 55 Brethren of the Red Redemption - Ob-Sec Troop - 20 Conscripts - 60Leonidan Inquisitorial Stormtroopers - Ob-Sec Troop - 5 Tempestus Scions with 2 Plasma and PP, 2 Hotshots - 76Leonidan Inquisitorial Stormtroopers - Ob-Sec Troop - 5 Tempestus Scions with 2 Plasma and PP, 2 Hotshots - 76 Inquisitorial Bombardment Platform - Heavy - Manticore with HB - 133Leonidan Purgation Team Alpha - Elite - 4 Tempestus Scions with 4 Plasma - 88 Leonidan Purgation Team Beta - Elite - 4 Tempestus Scions with 4 Plasma - 88 Battalion (+3 CP)St Seraphine and Sister Rolandsdotr - HQ - St Celestine & one Gemini - 200Canoness Evangela - HQ - Canoness with Power Maul/BP - 49 His Retribution - Fast - 5 Doms with 4 Melta, Sup with Chainsword/BP/Bolter - 118 DT - Repressor with HF/SB - 90His Anger - Fast - 5 Doms with 4 Melta, Sup with Chainsword/BP/Bolter - 118 DT - Repressor with HF/SB - 90His Fury - Fast - 7 Seraphim, 4 Inferno Pistols, Superior with Chainsword/BP - 125 His Pain - Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51His Loss - Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51 DT - Repressor with HF/SBx2 - 92His Suffering - Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51His Agony - Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51 DT - Repressor with HF/SB - 90 His Deliverance - Heavy - 5 Ret with 4 HB, Sup with Bolter/BP/Chainsword - 85 Vanguard (+1 CP)Inquisitor Lord Bellarol Tusand - HQ - Tempestor with Command Rod - 40Gluttony - Elite - Eversor - 70Pride - Elite - Culexus - 85 Acolyte - Elite - 8 I lose 10 conscripts, had to pay more for my plasma guns in the MT (since they are 3+ Ballistic) and added a single acolyte to my Vanguard to make it legal. I keep Ob Sec on my two Battalion. I get Valhallan for the first Battalion, which makes my Manticore more durable, and helps with morale. More importantly, I can SITNW on my conscripts. I don't get the MT regimental doctrine (I guess I could put all the MT into a patrol and put the other Astra Mil into a patrol with the assassins, but I'd lose SITNW). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainA Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Your points seem off for the Scion Troops - 5 troops with 2 plasma guns, 1 plasma pistol and 2 hot shots is 78. Looking at my own...:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 49 minutes ago, CaptainA said: Your points seem off for the Scion Troops - 5 troops with 2 plasma guns, 1 plasma pistol and 2 hot shots is 78. Looking at my own...:) Oh snap. Yeah, I had forgotten to pay for hotshots. Let me fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 10 CP at 2k Battalion (+3 CP) (Astra Mil Detachment. Valhallan and MT)Leonidas Twiceborn - HQ - Tempestor with Command Rod - 40Inquisitor Lord Bellarol Tusand - HQ - Tempestor with Command Rod - 40 Brethren of the Red Redemption - Ob-Sec Troop - 23 Conscripts - 69Leonidan Inquisitorial Stormtroopers - Ob-Sec Troop - 5 Tempestus Scions with 2 Plasma and PP, 2 Hotshots - 78Leonidan Inquisitorial Stormtroopers - Ob-Sec Troop - 5 Tempestus Scions with 2 Plasma and PP, 2 Hotshots - 78 Inquisitorial Bombardment Platform - Heavy - Manticore with HB - 133Leonidan Purgation Team Alpha - Elite - 4 Tempestus Scions with 4 Plasma - 88 Leonidan Purgation Team Beta - Elite - 4 Tempestus Scions with 4 Plasma - 88 Battalion (+3 CP)St Seraphine and Sister Rolandsdotr - HQ - St Celestine & one Gemini - 200Canoness Evangela - HQ - Canoness with Power Maul/BP - 49 His Retribution - Fast - 5 Doms with 4 Melta, Sup with Chainsword/BP/Bolter - 118 DT - Repressor with HF/SB - 90His Anger - Fast - 5 Doms with 4 Melta, Sup with Chainsword/BP/Bolter - 118 DT - Repressor with HF/SB - 90His Fury - Fast - 6 Seraphim, 4 Inferno Pistols, Superior with Chainsword/BP - 114 His Pain - Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51His Loss - Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51 DT - Repressor with HF/SBx2 - 92His Suffering - Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51His Agony - Ob-Sec Troop - 5 BSS with 2 Storm Bolters, Sup with StormB/BP/Chainsword - 51 DT - Repressor with HF/SB - 90 His Deliverance - Heavy - 5 Ret with 4 HB, Sup with Bolter/BP/Chainsword - 85 Vanguard (+1 CP) Inqusitor Jarr- HQ - Lord Commissar (BP/Power Sword) - 55Gluttony - Elite - Eversor - 70Pride - Elite - Culexus - 85 Acolyte - Elite - 8 Had to drop a seraphim to get points for the hotshots and then added a couple conscripts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 You also have too many scion elite squads... at least for matched play. Pg 132 black box at the end have to have a tempestor for each one just like regular command squads. Edit never mind fixed in most recent list... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 31 minutes ago, VonVilkee said: You also have too many scion elite squads... at least for matched play. Pg 132 black box at the end have to have a tempestor for each one just like regular command squads. Edit never mind fixed in most recent list... Yeah, I had the tempestor, but in the wrong detachment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 42 minutes ago, pretre said: Yeah, I had the tempestor, but in the wrong detachment. gotcha, one thing I've noticed is you are able to assign Militarum tempestus as a <regiment> seems like maybe you considered that but send in the next wave is good... I'm not convinced it is 3 CP good in your list. Take cover on three better units at good times feels better... check it out it is just any unit, not even Astra Militarum... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Oh wow. Take cover is super nice. Maybe a different regiment then. Hmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Wait, when you say I can make MT a regiment, like I can make them Valhallan and get the benefit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 So I could have Cadian MT's and reroll all 1's without an order on the drop and then use their order for the reroll wounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 1 minute ago, pretre said: Wait, when you say I can make MT a regiment, like I can make them Valhallan and get the benefit? Opposite conscripts could be MT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, VonVilkee said: Opposite conscripts could be MT Woah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 1 minute ago, pretre said: Woah. Yeah their doctrine isn't super good but you can take some filler and not ruin it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Well, except Manticores have super long range and 2d6 shots. So if your target is within 60", you can get extra hits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 I'm totally wrong don't know how I missed it on pg84... can't assign MT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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