andozane Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 OK...sorry for already starting a new topic, but this will be with the goal of a more fleshed out version. RULES Army Composition must adhere to the Basic Rule Book Combined Arms Detachment. The rules for "Ideal Mission Commander" and "Objective Secured" remain in place. Minimum 1 HQ 2 TROOPS OPTIONAL 1 HQ/LOW (Note, only NON Gargantuan Creature/SuperHeavy LOW Allowed) 4 TROOPS 3 FAST 3 ELITE 3 HEAVY No Fortifications, GC/SH Lords of War, or Allies allowed (see below under Force Organization for exceptions) RULES Modifications FORCE ORGANIZATION Cult Mechanicus and Skitarii Codexii are treated as ONE Codex for the basis of the above FOC Harlequins may be included in either Eldar or Dark Eldar Force Organizations in their respective slots Inquisition may be included in ANY Imperial Force int heir respective slots, maximum one unit per slot (ie Max 1 HQ, 1 Troop, 1 Elite) Assassins may be included as an Elite option in any Imperial Force, maximum one. Any ForgeWorld Army List may be used, as long as they adhere to the strict Forge Organization - Combined Arms Detachment rules above. VEHICLES Treat "Vehicle (Flyer) as "Vehicle (Fast Skimmer)". Flyers are all considered Fast Skimmers. CREATURES Treat "Flying Monstrous Creature" as "Jump Monstrous Creature". These follow the rules for both Jump and Monstrous Creature types. They also lose Jink and Vector Strike. WEAPONS "D Weapons", or weapons with Strength D, are treated as Strength 10 AP1 Armorbane Skyfire. All weapons designated as "Skyfire", lose the Skyfire ability. For all intents and purposes, "Skyfire" does not exist in this set of rules. DISCLAIMER The above rules are not meant to 'balance" 40K. These are simply a set of "house rules" i have been mulling over. Yes, they remove some aspects of the current 40K meta, and leave other's alone (Psychic phase as an example). These are meant to be first of all Simple. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_DUB Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 just like the Emperor intended 40K to be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 So FW is allowed, but Imperial Knights are not. It's like Elvensword and ITC had a sick sad bastard child. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadwing34 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 If this gets more people to the table playing I am all for it. It seems like a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psilence Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 I dig it. Like any system some armies will be able to take advantage of it more than others, but it removes a ton of silliness in current 40k. Some will say it's just a meta shift, and I would agree. But it's one I think I would like :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savion47 Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 I may have to play 40k now next Tuesday at GN. Don't let the shock kill you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indytims Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Really 'Old School' would mean no LoW or FW at all, right? Or is that 'Really REALLY Old School'? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Really 'Old School' would mean no LoW or FW at all, right? Or is that 'Really REALLY Old School'? :)Yeah, but then we have to allow citadel journal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indytims Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Yeah, but then we have to allow citadel journal. LOL, I haven't heard that in a lonnnnnng time! I love what andozane is doing here though. Most of my lists end up along these lines anyway. I think that's why I lose so often. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 So VDR is in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psilence Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Sounds dirty. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PourSpelur Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 So VDR is in? I'm taking a monolith with 100 laspistols on one side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 I, on the other hand, will build an AV9/9/9 vehicle that costs well over 200pts but has only a single, terrible gun. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappy Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 I, on the other hand, will build an AV9/9/9 vehicle that costs well over 200pts but has only a single, terrible gun.Do you work for GW's Dark Eldar vehicle design group? Because those rules suit that army perfectly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 So VDR is in? Yes and revised assault rules. Consolidate into new combats, ho! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinx Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 This sounds great! I would definitely play my traitor guard with this ruleset! I wouldn't even bother with a LOW! :) When and where? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Glacius Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 I like it. Its like a beginner's permit for 40K. After playing like this for a few weeks, I might be open to learning more. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadwing34 Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 So when does this league start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappy Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 So when does this league start?+1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRBY Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Introductory caveat: I have barely played any games in the newest edition. I am assuming that this is in response to the seemingly endless stream of formations and special rules to try to keep track of (not to mention all the monster-machines stomping around the table). Are the flyers and whatnot really that over-powering or is this more of a response to the all the extra rules that suck up game time? In any case, I never moved out of the old skool, so this looks good to me ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Nothing is really any more powerful compared to other editions, it IS drastically more complicated in terms of list creation, which I can see would appeal to older players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROGRE Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Excited for the impending Get Off My Lawn 40k tournament/match/fracas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Yes and revised assault rules. Consolidate into new combats, ho! Maybe I'll start playing Black Templar again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNathanson Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 This, when I was *just* starting to accept that 40k has become a game futuristic battles, played on 28mm scale battlefield, using He-Man Action Figure scale models! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted November 6, 2015 Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 Its not? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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