Tamwulf Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 Guess Gee Dub realized no one likes to play Unbound and shat out some detachment rules for the Sisters of Silence and Custodians. https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Datasheets/Burning%20of%20Prospero%20Imperial%20Datasheets.pdf?utm_source=Facebook&utm_content=UPDATESISTERRULES Taken from the GW Facebook Page 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 hmm. Looks like they will be precursors to Celestians? If celestians were this cool, people would probably take them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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InfestedKerrigan Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 Nice, quite an expanse from what they initially gave us. Must've realized that they'd done the "unbound only" thing and went back to the drawing board. Nice of them to get it out so quickly, too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spagunk Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 As great as it is, seems like they were tired of the whining and released quick rules to keep people from complaining. As bad as it was, having them for unbound only was a pretty bad ass move to further benefit unbound lists. They have such a hard time selling this to the masses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 hmm. Looks like they will be precursors to Celestians? If celestians were this cool, people would probably take them. The only things that Sisters of Silence and Sisters of Battle have in common are their names (because GW isn't very original and couldn't think of a second thing to call a unit of girls) and the fact that they work for the Imperium. They are not recruited from the same stock of personnel, do not serve the same functions, do not work for the same parts of the heirarchy, don't hold the same beliefs, and are separated by something like four millenia of history. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Dont care. Still would be cool template for Celestians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 If by template, you mean points efficient, sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 You can almost make an 1850 list with the Custodians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Add an assassin? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Guess Gee Dub realized no one likes to play Unbound and shat out some detachment rules for the Sisters of Silence and Custodians. https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Datasheets/Burning%20of%20Prospero%20Imperial%20Datasheets.pdf?utm_source=Facebook&utm_content=UPDATESISTERRULES Taken from the GW Facebook Page Aren't they HH only? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Aren't they HH only? Did you not look at the rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Neither are a full army in 40k, but from what has been leaked in 30k, they appear to be getting the full army treatment there. Which is why we have the PDF above for 40k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamwulf Posted October 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 The Custodians and Sisters of Silence could not be your primary detachment (no HQ unit... yet), but they do have detachment rules, thus making them an "army" in 40K. So you could spend like 300 points on a Space Marine Librarian and two min sized units of Marines, and spend the rest of your points on Custodians. And then you could add a third detachment of Sisters of Silence... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Why can't they be your Primary Detachment? Do you mean you can't make a Combined Arms Detachment or an Allied Detachment with them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Yeah, there's no requirement that your Warlord be an HQ. It can even be a non-Character Model if you don't have any Characters in the Army. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 The Custodians and Sisters of Silence could not be your primary detachment (no HQ unit... yet), but they do have detachment rules, thus making them an "army" in 40K. So you could spend like 300 points on a Space Marine Librarian and two min sized units of Marines, and spend the rest of your points on Custodians. And then you could add a third detachment of Sisters of Silence... Does 30k not use detachments (yet)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Yeah, there's no requirement that your Warlord be an HQ. It can even be a non-Character Model if you don't have any Characters in the Army. The downer is that most vehicles aren't viable options for most warlord traits, plus including any character models in the army prevents you from selecting a non-character your warlord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Did you not look at the rules? Couldn't open it before, because I was using the PS4's internet which can't open PDFs. I often surf ordo from the PS4 and just hook up a keyboard to post. Con is the lack of spell check, but I still type better than people posting from cell phones with auto-correct working against them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Does 30k not use detachments (yet)? CAD is all I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 The first PDF they released had the SoS and Custodians only, making it so you had to run Unbound to run them in your army. The PDF only covers their rules in 40k. Anyway, after people started being all "WTF GW? Thought you were new and cool, but nah, you up to the same ol' shenanigans." they got all butt hurt and threw us a bone and gave us "Take 1-3 squads of SoS" and "Take 1-3 Squads of Janitors" as Detachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Does 30k not use detachments (yet)? 30K is still in 6th Ed in a lot of ways. Only Troops are Scoring, Army construction is basically CAD/Allied/LoW/Fort, stuff like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Forge World basically lives (at least) one edition behind the times. Seeing their formations in the Doom of Mymeara book was almost sad, because it's so obvious they were trying and yet didn't really understand all of these newfangled rules. Like watching your grandpa try to send a text on his cellphone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamwulf Posted October 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Forge World already has a reputation for "borken" models. If they went too far with the formations in DoM, people would have screamed bloody murder. I like 30K because of the no formation rules, and the Rites of War basically are formations, so /shrug. For some reason, I was thinking you had to take an HQ for your warlord, and that detachment became your Primary detachment. I must be getting senile in my old age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Forge World already has a reputation for "borken" models. If they went too far with the formations in DoM, people would have screamed bloody murder. I like 30K because of the no formation rules, and the Rites of War basically are formations, so /shrug. For some reason, I was thinking you had to take an HQ for your warlord, and that detachment became your Primary detachment. I must be getting senile in my old age. 30k has it's own areas where it isn't balanced. I think 30k is probably less balanced than 40k, but it's a toss up. Neither are terribly well balanced. I think often GW gets near the point where the game would be balanced, then deliberately shifts the balance either to sell models, make armies fit the fluff, or just because it looks really cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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