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Admittedly, I think you lost me there Nathan. My comment was in response to yours about the event meta and army book power. Swedish clearly has an effect on the perceived power of a army book. Dwarves, while perhaps fun are a cack book. Definitely not up there power wise yet they definitely are under Swedish with good construction. So yeah, I agree, the Master's results aren't about the current army book strength. But I do think it says a lot about how Swedish alters the stock army book strength. Perhaps not so much for the winning lists but the types of lists in the top 10 and 20. It's been since like the early doors of 6th that so many Orc armies are in the top bracket (though the shift to MSU armour hammer and elves everywhere have made them a lot better. And people figuring out that playing them like dwarves with magic and better chaff works a lot better) but Swedish and good play make it a good shot. I'm not sure I agree with the comment about relevance to the local meta with the caveat of looking forward instead of the immediate time frame. OFCC is moving to Swedish and that tends to dictate the build of a lot of people during the year. Plus with the Master's using it and people wanting practice for it, I suspect we'll see more Swedish events crop up to build the talent pool in the circuit. So yeah. The short version is that when Swedish is in effect, I think it does change the intrinsic power level of the book and that does alter the power of books enough to change what types of things people bring unless there's a predefined banding score. But that's just my take. I'm certainly not a Swedish expert or anything.

Stock? Then I agree with you. But where I think you miss a bit Nathan is adding Swedish to the equation. Certain armies get away with a lot more then others there which can then effect matchups if you seed by score banding. So yeah, it's not the intrinsic nature of the army book, it's how the comp score takes that into effect.

Uh, yeah it does MN. Swedish Comp. Only based off data from Swedish events yet most of the major scenes in the world use it to a fairly regular degree.

As Iraf said, the rumour is Archaon's book comes next. A long with a new Thirster Kit and a new chaos dragon kit. The early rumour is that it's the last End Times book as well. Also rumoured for models coming with this book is a dwarf Golem and a new Orc Boar Rider kit. Suggesting that even if Archy's the main show, lots of people will be getting into the act.

MN: There may be no "I" in team, but there's certainly a "me"

Yes, 7 more ML. The CoB takes up a 3x5 space

If the Fantasy Open singles is a US Masters event, I'll be incredibly surprised if it isn't full.

Something silly like the Vampiric knight army that skips past Wights and uses Zombies to get in the way. Master Necro, Lv4, 4++, Earthing Necro, Lv2, Scroll Vampire, 1+, 2+ Fire Ward, Lance, Quickblood, Dread Knight Vampire, 1+ re-roll, Scroll of Sheilding, Quickblood, Dread Knight 3x5 Wolves 20 Zombies 3 x 50 Zombies 3 x 2 Bats 6 Blood Knights, Stand/Mus 10 Blood Knights, FC, Blood Keep Flag Probably comps somewhere around a 14 or 15. Still, solidly bad.

Hey homeslice! Just recently back to the game myself after having a little one (daughter as well). Looking forward to a game some time and swapping kiddo stories.

Ntk: Funny, that Meta Chaos god sounds a lot like Malal from back in the day. He was my fav when I was reading through all the old fluff. Though GW would have to call him something else this time around since they don't own the copy right.

I don't know this this browser isn't letting me quote, but no Fluger. Just no. :p Martin does just fine with having a map and everyone kicking the crap out of each other. WHFB can do it too. Besides, there's a point made of every race being sea faring or having some other means of travel. Having the whole setting turn into Eldar Craftworlds passing the night? I'd use the vomit emoto thingy now but I can't find it.

I thought rainbows were banned and you could only have one unicorn per team. This change in unprecedented!

Fluger: Did you really just say that floating bubbles of reality is a better "fluff" system then a mapped world?

I imagine you have, but if you haven't, take a look at Warhammer Ancients Brick. I suspect that game could be really up your alley

Well, their last stance was that they aren't going to do the combined lists. They view them as a campaign supplement, ala the Storm of Magic and won't be including them unless GW goes officially in 9th.