Guest Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 Just found out. Apparently, sometime yesterday morning, an Amtrak train derailed and fell onto I-5 South somewhere in Washington state. I don't know my washinton geography well enough to know where in washington, but they departed from seatle. I read that 3 died so far. Hope people up there are alright. Expect traffic to be terrible today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/19/us/amtrak-derailment-washington/index.html https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amtrak-derailment-train-crashes-near-tacoma-washington-n830751 https://www.google.com/search?q=amtrak derailment&hl=en&safe=off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torg Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 yeah.. that happened YESTERDAY morning. Train was traveling 50mph over the limit for the portion of the route... according to reports this morning. -d 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swan-of-War Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 So tragic - my parents were supposed to ride that same train this Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, Torg said: yeah.. that happened YESTERDAY morning. Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans832 Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Swan-of-War said: So tragic - my parents were supposed to ride that same train this Saturday. Scary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Trainer Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Torg said: yeah.. that happened YESTERDAY morning. Train was traveling 50mph over the limit for the portion of the route... according to reports this morning. -d Seriously? Just read the article, 80mph in a 30mph zone (due to the curve). Very sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torg Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 more annoying - is they just spend millions (151?) redoing things so they could go up the new route (first trip - crash). And yet they failed to add in the train control system to automatically adjust train speeds for things like... uhh low speed turns. This was a mandate for tracks and trains to have by 2018. Yet the reworked areas didn't include the system. ugh engineer/driver error most likely (as of news that I heard this morning) - but could have been prevented. -d 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckman Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 The track has the PTC system installed but it is not operational. What that most likely means is that the tracks have it but the engine did not. It's possible there are other ways to keep it from functioning (e.g. failure to power the system) but the information we have does not cover the exact reason. The track definitely do have the PTC installed though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torg Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 hmmm the article I read implied that the system wasn't included in the budget. But then again - fast news (damn you NPR) misses stuff. -thanks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torg Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 I heard the story again ... apparently the PTC system won’t be installed in that section of track till the spring of 2018. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckman Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 Interesting, and CNN has removed the section of their article claiming that the track had PTC installed. They still have the section describing PTC and covering the congressional mandates and timelines but the section about that track itself is removed now (with no notation that it has been edited). And yet they wonder why people don't trust them to report things. <sigh> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torg Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 ugh - annoying. Well - in whatever case - the train was moving too fast for the corner. And I also heard that the engineer may have also had a "trainee" ? not sure what that entails. I know they had test runs on the track - and the engineer was part of those tests. Sad. -d 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans832 Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 Rumor is they still think there was an obstruction in the path as well... Wish they'd keep everything under wraps till they had all the facts instead of continually guessing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckman Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 But it's only news while it is a disaster. When it is a week old they will have a much harder time attracting readers. Look how many of us went out of our way to read something about it now. I know I won't be seeking out information next week, even if there is new information. Their best bet for getting readers (and therefore advertising dollars) is to post early and post often. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans832 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Can't argue the facts :( I-5 will be opening tonight at 5pm, only two lanes. They're being people to play nicely. One stupid mistake and it's all closed again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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