InfestedKerrigan Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Again, 3 color and Fin are two very different things. My knights have 3 colors, but they are no where near done. I'd feel [big bad swear word]ty running them at OFCC in their current state, ergo, I wouldn't bring them as is. Speaking of unfinished projects, I just started assembling my first Dawn eagle. Jesus tits this [big bad swear word] is huge! They are nearly the size of a [big bad swear word]ing Rhino! I bet two shots of whatever Whiskey Weav brings* that it's the same footprint as the old school ones! *Collect winnings at own risk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 2 hours ago, InfestedKerrigan said: Again, 3 color and Fin are two very different things. My knights have 3 colors, but they are no where near done. I'd feel [big bad swear word]ty running them at OFCC in their current state, ergo, I wouldn't bring them as is. And part of the issue is that "finished" can be very different for different Models. It's entirely possible to get many CSM schemes to look decent on the tabletop with just two colours. I've even seen Units and Armies that looked fantastic, and were clearly fully painted, but were arguably done just in different shades of a single colour. I also have some Models on my table right now that have something like a dozen colours each on them, but are clearly not fully painted. It's impossible to capture the full range of possibilities and completely partition "painted" Armies from "unpainted" ones with any sort of objective rule. Relying on a Judge's subjective opinion, on the other hand, can lead to arguments and bad feeling. Three colour minimum is a kludged together compromise between getting the event looking good, the TO/judges' time, and the restrictions that some players may have on their available painting time or ability. We stick with it not because it's the best solution, but because it more or less works, and it's been around long enough that pretty much everyone understands what's involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 On 2/8/2018 at 8:13 PM, Munkie said: I'm glad to see no Battalion/patrol requirement, they are unfriendly to DE. I need more elites and fast attack and fewer troops. Don't get me wrong, I won't have "no troops" (that would feel weird) but you'll get the minimum 2 of yesteryear, and not a model more! Why harder on Dark Eldar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 On 2/8/2018 at 8:13 PM, Munkie said: I'm glad to see no Battalion/patrol requirement, they are unfriendly to DE. I need more elites and fast attack and fewer troops. Don't get me wrong, I won't have "no troops" (that would feel weird) but you'll get the minimum 2 of yesteryear, and not a model more! Why harder on Dark Eldar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 10:59 AM, Romans832 said: Yikes, we got to get busy finding 17 cohesive colors on a single model My sisters can do it. Hehe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_bryan Posted February 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 For the page 13 spoiler, I need to do some stage setting. In planning to manage an event of this size I'm sure it comes as no surprise that I have a task list of things that need to happen. Here is a glimpse at that list: Determine the event scoring criteria by category (there will be an opportunity to earn points pre-event like last year) Decide on this year's approach to list review, submissions, rating and team matching methodology Construct the team captain checklist and list of achievements Build and publish the Player's Guide (to include all things listed above) Create the missions and mission scoring (to be a separate guide) Update player achievements (for Spirit) Design the player event reference sheet/packet Determine the game scoring and reporting mechanism (sheet, app, etc.) Now that you have seen how the sausage is made, the page 13 spoiler is that the Player's Guide will be published on March 15th. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 11 hours ago, Lord Hanaur said: My sisters can do it. Hehe I'm sure your siblings don't appreciate you flaunting their skills so willie nilly like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 minute ago, InfestedKerrigan said: I'm sure your siblings don't appreciate you flaunting their skills so willie nilly like that. Fair point. They didn't appreciate me painting them either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Lord Hanaur said: Fair point. They didn't appreciate me painting them either. Right? I mean, for all the times I let her put finger nail polish and make up on me, you'd think turnabout would be fair play! Sisters! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, InfestedKerrigan said: Right? I mean, for all the times I let her put finger nail polish and make up on me, you'd think turnabout would be fair play! Sisters! It might have been the NUMBER of colors I painted them with that annoyed them. Honestly I'm with you on this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PumpkinHead Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Meets minimum 100 color and basing... 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkie Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 15 hours ago, Lord Hanaur said: Why harder on Dark Eldar? Because troops and HQs are where DE are weakest. If I want to do 2 detachment and one must be a battalion, then I've got to take 3 HQs. The haemonculus is the best of them but a little overcosted and one is plenty. Archon and succubus are both just plain bad. The succubus is basically just a worse clawed fiend for twice the cost and the Archon has a terrible aura and is not good at anything. And I hate shadow fields with a fiery passion. So bad. Warriors are boring, wyches are okay but fragile which limits their ObSec value, and wracks are a decent bunker but not worth taking in abundance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, Munkie said: Because troops and HQs are where DE are weakest. If I want to do 2 detachment and one must be a battalion, then I've got to take 3 HQs. The haemonculus is the best of them but a little overcosted and one is plenty. Archon and succubus are both just plain bad. The succubus is basically just a worse clawed fiend for twice the cost and the Archon has a terrible aura and is not good at anything. And I hate shadow fields with a fiery passion. So bad. Warriors are boring, wyches are okay but fragile which limits their ObSec value, and wracks are a decent bunker but not worth taking in abundance. having one archon is worth it to me. Cant do much about your dislike of shadow fields. Seems better than...none? I dunno. It is what it is. Theres much more balance in 8e and part if that is the required units granting so many command points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkie Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 I just wish the Archon could just take a 4++ save. I get the design concept behind having required troops to get command points. But that's not a problem for armies with troops and HQs that are worth taking. I'm perfectly happy taking a Vanguard detachment and Outsider detachment and settling for 5 CPs. One haemonculus, one HQ tax, and I'll still throw 2 squads of troops in because it feels right. 3 squads of troops, and not enough fast attack or elite slots unless I take a 3rd HQ is just not worth it to get another 1-2 CPs. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Munkie said: I just wish the Archon could just take a 4++ save. I get the design concept behind having required troops to get command points. But that's not a problem for armies with troops and HQs that are worth taking. I'm perfectly happy taking a Vanguard detachment and Outsider detachment and settling for 5 CPs. One haemonculus, one HQ tax, and I'll still throw 2 squads of troops in because it feels right. 3 squads of troops, and not enough fast attack or elite slots unless I take a 3rd HQ is just not worth it to get another 1-2 CPs. For your style of play agreed sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 7:37 AM, Kelharis said: Here's one going a different route. I call it "How many wounds does it take to get to the center of a T'autsie pop?" (snip) 1997 points. 216 ablative shield drones, each with a 5+ FnP... Even better, can't target the HQs through the bubble wrap, so 216 shield drones, each with a 4+, 5+ FnP via 3++ is the New Black 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Munkie said: I just wish the Archon could just take a 4++ save. I get the design concept behind having required troops to get command points. But that's not a problem for armies with troops and HQs that are worth taking. I'm perfectly happy taking a Vanguard detachment and Outsider detachment and settling for 5 CPs. One haemonculus, one HQ tax, and I'll still throw 2 squads of troops in because it feels right. 3 squads of troops, and not enough fast attack or elite slots unless I take a 3rd HQ is just not worth it to get another 1-2 CPs. Well I get the point of view. I play Dark Eldar too. I just am maybe comfortable with improvisation. Almost every list I build is a Brigade which gives me the tool bag I need to win and it stops my enemy from "keying in" on any one unit, since i require no one unit in order to win if that makes sense. It has resulted in many lists others would probably not PREFER, but I think that winning is reward enough most of the time for any conflict with preference. Hehehe. I will say this: I DEFINITELY am a little frustrated that you almost HAVE to take the "six elites" detachment when playing Dark Eldar. It's aaaaalmost impossible not to it seems like. Just a quirk of their design I suppose. Hope they make Wracks Troops again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelharis Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 15 hours ago, WestRider said: via 3++ is the New Black That would take so long to set up. I wouldn't even want to move anything, although I see they have movement trays. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans832 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Where did the peanut gallery go? Did they all take a hiatus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 41 minutes ago, Romans832 said: Where did the peanut gallery go? Did they all take a hiatus? I tried not to but my two cents ate just about rubbed out... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans832 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Bummer Dude I keep getting asked if I'm coming back, I'm trying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frowbakk Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Trying to say at least partially relevant, posting-wise. Such as, should I try and convert a 5th Repressor for my Sisters of Battle, or start prepping Orkzsesez hoping their codex comes out in time for OFCC? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skkipper Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 To get back into painting, I have started on objectives. Then onto the kytan and fire raptor and storm eagle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PumpkinHead Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 To prep for OFCC I have done nothing... well not nothing, I mean I did pull out some models and look at what I have, and even thought of putting together my dimacheron.. but start this early? That seems a little to overachiever ish... EDIT: BAM 14 :) I am getting good at this. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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