evil_bryan Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Normally, I harass the senators to review prior to publishing but why not leverage the broader community. 🙂 Here is the nearly complete Player's Guide, so feel free to comment away. I would saw it's 99% finished but that was before my bright idea of letting you all see it. 🙂 Welcome to the 2018 OFCC 40K Team Event Players Guide! This post will outline everything you need to know to play in this year's 40K Team event. This is a 2 day, 5 round event on August 25th and 26th. As you read through this guide, you will notice that this event is not referred to as a tournament. OFCC is about focusing on the experience and not the outcome. There is nothing wrong with wanting to perform well and to celebrate victory, but if that is your sole motivator for playing at OFCC then you may be disappointed. The Basics: This a team event and it requires every player to be a member of a team in order to participate If you are new to Ordo or new to OFCC this can feel like a pretty big barrier, but there are several options available to you Join an existing team As players come and go from our hobby and our area, we have existing teams looking to fill opening with new players These connections are normally made through the Ordo forums, but can also be done through the Ordo Facebook group Watch for posts and/or start a post and make your interest known Start a new team Due to the popularity of the event, we are regularly adding new teams of players to join us annually Taking the initiative to join other interested players to form a new team is a great way to dive into the OFCC experience with both feet Offer to play as a ringer If you are not ready to make the commitment to join an existing team or start a new one and would just like to check out OFCC, maybe offering to be a ringer would be a better fit Ringers are standby players who are available to fill in due to absence or illness during the event weekend Although there is no guarantee of play, many times ringers have an opportunity get a game or two in over the weekend If anyone is interested in playing and doesn't know where to start, you can always reach out to me via email or PM Team Requirements: The team size is 4 players One team member must be designated as the Captain Due to the added responsibility required of being a team captain, players must be approved to become a team captain Approval can be through forum post, PM, or email A list of all teams and their approved captains will posted publicly and updated regularly Becoming a Captain: For returning captain's, the approval process will be little more than a formality as they are generally familiar with the duties and responsibilities required for that role For new captains, the approval process is not designed to serve a gate to restrict your access to the event but rather an opportunity to prepare you to be successful in that role and ensure you want to take on the additional responsibility Any player looking to become a captain for their team can contact me via email, PM, or through the dedicated post that will be started shortly after this guide is published Captain's Responsibilities: Team Captains are the true heroes of OFCC, and greatly contribute to what makes this event a success. Team Captains will be asked to: Submit a Team Roster by email or PM containing the following details as they receive them: Review the team's army lists and have them submitted on time Remind their team to purchase their event tickets Ensure the team meets OFCC painting and basing minimums Educate new players about the spirit of OFCC Determine player matches during the event Review scoring sheets and report game results during the event List Rating and Matches: There will be no list rating this year, but captains are expected to review and submit lists prior to the event This year we are returning to Team vs Team competition, with Captains determining the match ups each round Also, Teams will have the ability to prearrange Challenge Matches for each of their games on Saturday Challenge Matches: Challenge matches are optional, and not required for play on Saturday All challenge matches must be prearranged by 8/1/2018 Both Captains must agree to the challenge match Only fully paid teams are qualified to arrange challenge matches After 8/1, challenge matches cannot be changed Challenge matches must be arranged through the Captain's forum, via email, or by sending me a PM Challenge matches must be confirmed by me before they will be scheduled, do not assume it is been scheduled until you receive your confirmation A list of all confirmed challenge matches will be publicly posted List Building Restrictions: OFCC is about celebrating our hobby, demonstrating good sportsmanship, and playing fun games. Players are encouraged to bring armies that reinforce those values. This event is designed to encourage and reward players who embrace the experience. The army size must be no more than 2,000 points It can include any 40K units from any number of 40K approved Games Workshop or Forgeworld sources The maximum number of detachments your army can contain is 4 The number of times each datasheet can be included is 4 Note - You will notice the detachment limit and duplicate datasheet limit set at 4 rather than 3 for this event. This additional flexibility is meant to provide our players with the freedom of creativity in building a fun and thematic army within the spirit of the event. List Building Guidance: Over the years, OFCC has taken many approaches to list construction. We have used rating systems, review processes, unit restrictions, and list building guidelines with varying degrees of success. All of these systems were used to serve a common purpose, which was to foster an environment where every player had their best chance to play 5 great games. This year, I will outline a few things to avoid when building your lists for OFCC. Baring the near countless special abilities present in the units across the 40K universe, most things can be boiled down to their lethality and durability. When you compare the damage dealt or taken versus their points cost, you will develop a sense of how lethal or durable they are in comparison to other units in your army and, with enough experience, their overall effectiveness in the larger universe. It is not a bad thing to want to make good choices for your army or play with the best units, the problem is when those choices are taken to the extreme. When that happens then there is little room for casual or friendly play. Enough preaching, here is the actual outline: It is okay to take effective units from your Codex, but avoid maximizing those choices(no need to search ebay for more Dark Reapers) Extremely lethal or extremely durable units can be unpopular, use with caution(I'm talking about you Porphyrion) Building a force that dominates one phase of the game will always be tough on your opponent(those lower sportsmanship scores may be tied to resolving shooting for 47 units every turn) Take advantage of the relative safety of the OFCC gaming environment to make diverse and unique choices for your army. Between Captain's match ups and challenges rounds, it would be hard to find a better place to bring something crazy and different. Captains will be asked to review list from their team and will be encouraged to post that list on the Captain's forum to review with their peers. Event Specific Rules: This event will use the Games Workshop 8th Edition 40K rules and the Games Workshop official FAQ documents, including the FAQ document released in April of 2018 The beta rule Tactical Reserves will be used during the 2018 OFCC 40K Team Event I feel this rule enhances game play and will lead to closer games, which is in the spirit of the OFCC The beta rule Battle Brothers will not be used during the 2018 OFCC 40K Team Event Although I see the need for this rule in normal match play events, OFCC encourages more freedom in list construction and we provide direction in the section List Building Guidance What to Bring: Your painted and based army (see Painting and Basing Requirements) Dice Tape measure A printed copy of your army list A good attitude and desire to have fun Painting and Basing Requirements: All models within OFCC armies must be fully painted and based Painting must include 3+ colors Effort must be made to transform or replace the bare plastic base Models that fail to meet the event minimum cannot be used during the event Models, Counts As and WYSIWYG: Games Workshop models are not required for this event Alternate models should reflect the same scale as the Games Workshop equivalent Weapon upgrades and certain model specific wargear should be represented on the equipped model It is impossible to outline all the examples, so here is a good rule to follow If a unit would be impacted by the removal of something equipped to a specific model (banner, special weapon, etc.) then it must be represented Proxies are not allowed in the 40K Team Event A proxy is a placeholder when you don't have an appropriate model to use Counts As armies are allowed during the 40K event with the following guidelines: Effort must be made to represent the model/unit in question Representation must be consistent across the army It is the responsibility of the player who bring a Counts As army to inform their opponent early and often about what is being represented Any specific questions or additional guidance should be directed to me Awards: The Team Based Awards available this year will be: Best Painted Best Spirit Marshall Johnson Award (Best Sportsman) Best Overall Best Overall will be calculated from 40% Sports, 25% Painting, 30% Spirit, and 5% Captain Achievements The list of Captain Achievements will be published prior to the event Note: Although we do not award a Best General, we do track battle scores and use them to break ties in all award categories Also, the bonus award Roll For Initiative will earned by the first fully paid 40K team Missions: The Mission Pack will be published on June 1st and will contain 4 of the OFCC 40K Missions. The secret 5th mission will not be revealed until OFCC weekend. Event Scoring by Category: Each team will have the ability to earn points in each scoring category (Paint, Spirit, Sports) before the event AND during the event. The total points scored will determine team's position in each category and contribute to calculating the scores for Best Overall. Pre-Event Scoring: Each player/army that achieves one of the below items will score 1 point per completion. If all players on a team achieve the same item they will receive a bonus point. Painting: Photo Spread - Team post on the Ordo Forums with pictures of each army Early Screening - Display your army Friday evening for paint judging Spirit: Advanced Planning - List submitted for review before 7/28/2018 All In - Ticket purchased before 7/14/2018 Sportsmanship: Going Old School - Sources?!? You mean source! Your whole army fits within a single Detachment with no single model over 400 points or over 20 wounds No surprises - Start a dedicated post on the Ordo 40K Forums for your team, then add information about your players and their army lists List Submissions: All army lists should be emailed to 40K.OFCC@gmail.com Army lists should include all units, wargear, corresponding points cost, and source(s) Include the name of the Team in the title of the email and label each list with the name of the player Questions: For any questions, please feel free to reach out to me in the following ways: Send a PM through the forums Reach out via Facebook Send an email to 40K.OFCC@gmail.com Stop by in person at WOW on a Tuesday night We look forward to seeing you in August! 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_bryan Posted April 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, necrontyr said: Two questions: 1) If lists aren't being rated, are we still supposed to send them to 40k.OFCC@gmail.com? 2) Anybody need a team mate? Yes, I am still asking to receive lists to for review just not rating. By doing that I know that both myself and the captain at least have had a chance to see the list prior to the event. 🙂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, necrontyr said: Two questions: 1) If lists aren't being rated, are we still supposed to send them to 40k.OFCC@gmail.com? 2) Anybody need a team mate? I made a thread for the second part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PumpkinHead Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 What is your take on non chargeable units because there is not space to fit a charging model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purajh Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Do we still need to bring templates if they are no longer used in this edition? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 What's the cut-off date for application/registration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallbeard Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Which forum should we post team pics and updates? just in the general 40k? or should we post in the tri cities outer rim forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_bryan Posted April 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 On 4/25/2018 at 7:45 AM, PumpkinHead said: What is your take on non chargeable units because there is not space to fit a charging model? Good question....right now I am leaning toward FAQ as written since I am hesitant to modify rules. Let's see how this plays out in the community in the coming months. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_bryan Posted April 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 8:59 PM, Purajh said: Do we still need to bring templates if they are no longer used in this edition? Good catch, I should pull that out 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_bryan Posted April 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 9:50 PM, andy said: What's the cut-off date for application/registration? No cut-off date for the event, but there is a theoretical limit due to space. When were you hoping to sign up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_bryan Posted April 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 On 4/28/2018 at 9:49 AM, Tallbeard said: Which forum should we post team pics and updates? just in the general 40k? or should we post in the tri cities outer rim forum Excellent question....the general 40K forum will get the most views, so that would be the place I'd recommend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 4 hours ago, evil_bryan said: No cut-off date for the event, but there is a theoretical limit due to space. When were you hoping to sign up? There are three of us and one doesn't have a painted army, so we're not sure what we want to do -- nothing motivates like a deadline, though 🙂 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappasa Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 Do the FORGE WORLD ADEPTUS CUSTODES RULES PREVIEW, aka FW Custode Beta Rules, count as part of the "40K approved Games Workshop or Forgeworld sources"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_bryan Posted April 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 4 hours ago, pappasa said: Do the FORGE WORLD ADEPTUS CUSTODES RULES PREVIEW, aka FW Custode Beta Rules, count as part of the "40K approved Games Workshop or Forgeworld sources"? Hmmmm.....good question, I hesitate a bit due to the following sentence: "All rules in this document reflect an early version of the development process and are entirely experimental and subject to change in future publications. As such, these rules are best tested with the agreement of all players involved." Have they announced a date when the actual product is being released? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappasa Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 28 minutes ago, evil_bryan said: Hmmmm.....good question, I hesitate a bit due to the following sentence: "All rules in this document reflect an early version of the development process and are entirely experimental and subject to change in future publications. As such, these rules are best tested with the agreement of all players involved." Have they announced a date when the actual product is being released? I am not sure - I am mostly looking for an excuse to buy and paint a couple of those tanks so I can try some free hand techniques on them - hahaha! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 On 4/30/2018 at 4:34 PM, evil_bryan said: Hmmmm.....good question, I hesitate a bit due to the following sentence: "All rules in this document reflect an early version of the development process and are entirely experimental and subject to change in future publications. As such, these rules are best tested with the agreement of all players involved." Have they announced a date when the actual product is being released? They did that to shut us up, cuz they were saying the book would be out last year. It's also the reason they gave us as to why they didn't include the Custodes stuff in IA Index, cuz the book was going to be released shortly thereafter. The Beta Rules are our PDF sisters codex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craeat Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 On 4/30/2018 at 4:44 AM, evil_bryan said: Excellent question....the general 40K forum will get the most views, so that would be the place I'd recommend. Do you want to start a single thread for the team posts on the 40K forum for each captain to add theirs or do you want each captain to post their own thread for their Team.  Craeat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craeat Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 On 3/26/2018 at 2:16 AM, evil_bryan said: Sportsmanship: Going Old School - Single Combined Arms Detachment from a single source with no flyers, super heavies, or gargantuan creatures No surprises - Team post on the Ordo Forums with information about your players and their army lists  Going old school: does this mean we build our list within the unit confines of the old CAD. or does this mean a single battalion in 8th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manethak Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 @Craeat The approach I would take is use the size limits of the old CAD system, but fit it into a single battalion. Is this correct Bryan, or would these lists be foregoing command points all together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manethak Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Will there be a block of hotel rooms available to reserve for the OFCC members who are travelling like there was last year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_bryan Posted May 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 20 hours ago, Manethak said: @Craeat The approach I would take is use the size limits of the old CAD system, but fit it into a single battalion. Is this correct Bryan, or would these lists be foregoing command points all together? I may need to re-work this slightly as it was written back in 7th and the language could be clearer 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_bryan Posted May 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 13 hours ago, Manethak said: Will there be a block of hotel rooms available to reserve for the OFCC members who are travelling like there was last year? Yes! Link to the hotel site and the discount code can be found at:Â http://www.ofccgaming.com/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edosaurus Rex Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 Word on the street is that the first team to be fully paid gets an achievement? Because Kill! Maim! Beer! has all of their tickets purchased! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PumpkinHead Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 On 5/7/2018 at 11:31 AM, evil_bryan said: Link to the hotel site and the discount code can be found at:Â http://www.ofccgaming.com/ What should the room rates be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manethak Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 About $150 a night plus taxes for the days which are covered by ofcc. I believe those days are the 23rd - 26th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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