Dusldorf Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 Looking for 85 points to include an Assassin in my ITC list... Swap the Seraphim's hand meltas for hand flamers = 16 points Remove the Rune Priest's jump pack = 24 points Swap the Rune Priest's axe for a sword = 2 points Remove the Astropath = 26 points Remove the Dominions' storm bolters = 6 points Swap the second Immolator's twin multi-melta for an immolation flamer = 10 points Remove the Company Commander's bolt pistol = 1 point Total = 85 points Here's the updated list: +++ ITC Sisters / Guard / Wolves (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [124 PL, 11CP, 2000pts] +++ ++ Reserve points [85pts] ++ ++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Wolves) [25 PL, 3CP, 450pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot [3CP] + Battle-forged CP [3CP] Detachment CP [1CP] Trophies of Fenris [-1CP]: Trophies of Fenris - 1 Extra Relic [-1CP] + HQ [25 PL, 450pts] + Bjorn the Fell-handed [12 PL, 234pts]: Heavy flamer [14pts], Twin lascannon [40pts] Rune Priest [7 PL, 98pts]: 1. Living Lightning, 2. Tempest's Wrath, Bolt pistol, Runic sword [10pts], The Armour of Russ Wolf Guard Battle Leader on Bike [6 PL, 118pts]: Saga of the Hunter, Storm shield [10pts], The Wulfen Stone, Thunder hammer [21pts], Warlord . Bike [2pts]: Twin boltgun [2pts] ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adepta Sororitas) [54 PL, 5CP, 832pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot [5CP] + Detachment CP [5CP] OPEN THE RELIQUARIES: 1 additional Relic of the Ecclesiarchy, -1 CP Order Convictions: Order: Bloody Rose + HQ [11 PL, 209pts] + Canoness [3 PL, 49pts]: Boltgun, Power sword [4pts], Relic: Blade of Admonition Celestine [8 PL, 160pts] + Troops [12 PL, 135pts] + Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts]: 4x Battle Sister [36pts] . Sister Superior [9pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts]: 4x Battle Sister [36pts] . Sister Superior [9pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts]: 4x Battle Sister [36pts] . Sister Superior [9pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun + Fast Attack [14 PL, 167pts] + Dominion Squad [5 PL, 50pts]: 4x Dominion [40pts] . Dominion Superior [10pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun Dominion Squad [5 PL, 50pts]: 4x Dominion [40pts] . Dominion Superior [10pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun Seraphim Squad [4 PL, 67pts] . 2x Seraphim [22pts] . Seraphim Superior [11pts]: Bolt pistol, Bolt pistol . Seraphim w/ Special Weapons [25pts]: 2x Hand Flamers [6pts] . Seraphim w/ Special Weapons [25pts]: 2x Hand Flamers [6pts] + Heavy Support [7 PL, 125pts] + Exorcist [7 PL, 125pts] + Dedicated Transport [10 PL, 196pts] + Immolator [5 PL, 98pts]: Immolation Flamer [30pts] Immolator [5 PL, 98pts]: Immolation Flamer [30pts] ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [45 PL, 3CP, 633pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot [3CP] + Detachment CP [5CP] Imperial Commander's Armoury [-1CP]: 1 additional Heirloom of Conquest [-1CP] Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Vostroyan Vigilus Defiant [-1CP]: Emperor's Fist Tank Company [-1CP] + HQ [26 PL, 373pts] + Company Commander [2 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword Tank Commander [12 PL, 172pts]: Emperor's Fist, Heavy Bolter [8pts], Relic (Emperor's Fist): Hammer of Sunderance . Command Battle Tank [22pts]: Battle Cannon [22pts] Tank Commander [12 PL, 170pts]: Emperor's Fist, Heavy Bolter [8pts] . Command Punisher [20pts]: Turret-mounted Punisher Gatling Cannon [20pts] + Troops [9 PL, 120pts] + Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman [36pts] . Sergeant [4pts]: Laspistol Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman [36pts] . Sergeant [4pts]: Laspistol Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman [36pts] . Sergeant [4pts]: Laspistol + Heavy Support [10 PL, 141pts] + Basilisks [7 PL, 108pts] . Basilisk [7 PL, 108pts]: Heavy Bolter [8pts] Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 33pts] . Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Mortar [5pts] . Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Mortar [5pts] . Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Mortar [5pts] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 Love the Tank Commanders! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, fluger said: Love the Tank Commanders! They're no joke! And the underrated Vigilus stratagem (2cp, roll a d6 for every specialist leman that successfully charged target unit this phase, on a 4+ that unit takes d3 mortals) is pretty hilarious when it works. Not the reason I take tank commanders, but it's a nice surprise 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 BS 4 and order to re-roll 1s is tasty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, fluger said: BS 4 and order to re-roll 1s is tasty. Well BS 3 (this is 8th ed :P) and I can use the unique Vostroyan stratagem to make one of them hit on 2's! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted February 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Got my ass handed to me by a buddy's Tau list that almost made it into top 8 at LVO. It's clear that I need more long-ranged firepower, so I took out the Rune Priest and some other toys to create this. It's largely the same list, but it can now out-range triple Riptide lists while still having the obsec bodies and assault potential to play board control. I left extra relics off of the list since they're more likely to change from game to game than in my previous list. I might use the Dagger of Tu'Sakh, for example, to outflank my Company Commander and a unit of guard in the same place where the assassin and Seraphim appear. The latter now function only as chaff clearers and/or a character screen, since I removed the special weapons. The tank-killing that I lost from units like that is more than made up for by the three typhoon land speeders. The Bjorn + land speeder + battle leader castle is a composition I used at the BAO two years back and it did very well. This list's greatest asset against Tau is that the Emperor's Wrath Wyvern can fire twice for 2 CP, and Vostroyan bonuses give it extra range and potential +1 to hit, not to mention re-rolling 1's due to the Master of Ordnance. The Vigilus specialist detachment and Field Commander warlord trait also allow it to ignore cover and even get -1 AP on 6's to wound, making it quite devastating against drones.. The one silly thing in the list is the Deathstrike, which I'm keen to try out because my conversion still hasn't seen the tabletop. It's also buffable with the Vostroyan stratagem and MoO, though, so it's definitely more deadly than one from a different regiment. But I'll be replacing it with a Manticore for the same point cost after I order some more bits...I have the Manticore turret but not the chassis. +++ ITC_AstraMilitarum_2k (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [121 PL, 13CP, 1915pts] +++ ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [52 PL, 6CP, 769pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Battle-forged CP [3CP] Detachment CP [5CP] Field Commander [-1CP] Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Vostroyan Vigilus Defiant [-1CP]: Emperor's Wrath Artillery Company + HQ + Company Commander [2 PL, 31pts]: Bolt pistol, Chainsword, Emperor's Wrath, Grand Strategist, Warlord Tank Commander [12 PL, 167pts]: Heavy Bolter . . Command Exterminator: Turret-mounted Exterminator Autocannon Tank Commander [12 PL, 170pts]: Heavy Bolter . . Command Punisher: Turret-mounted Punisher Gatling Cannon + Troops + Infantry Squad [3 PL, 45pts] . . 7x Guardsman . . Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar . . Sergeant: Laspistol Infantry Squad [3 PL, 45pts] . . 7x Guardsman . . Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar . . Sergeant: Laspistol Infantry Squad [3 PL, 45pts] . . 7x Guardsman . . Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar . . Sergeant: Laspistol + Elites + Master of Ordnance [2 PL, 30pts]: Emperor's Wrath, Relic (Emperor's Wrath): Agripinaa-Class Orbital Tracker, WT (Emperor's Wrath): Lord of Ordnance + Heavy Support + Deathstrike [9 PL, 133pts]: Heavy Bolter Wyverns [6 PL, 103pts]: Emperor's Wrath . . Wyvern: Heavy Bolter ++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Wolves) [36 PL, 1CP, 636pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Detachment CP [2CP (+1 from Bjorn)] + HQ + Bjorn the Fell-handed [12 PL, 234pts]: Heavy flamer, Twin lascannon Wolf Guard Battle Leader on Bike [6 PL, 108pts]: Boltgun, Thunder hammer . . Bike: Twin boltgun + Fast Attack + Land Speeders [6 PL, 98pts] . . Land Speeder: Heavy bolter, Typhoon missile launcher Land Speeders [6 PL, 98pts] . . Land Speeder: Heavy bolter, Typhoon missile launcher Land Speeders [6 PL, 98pts] . . Land Speeder: Heavy bolter, Typhoon missile launcher ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adepta Sororitas) [33 PL, 5CP, 510pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Detachment CP [5CP] Order Convictions: Order: Bloody Rose + HQ + Celestine [8 PL, 160pts] Missionary [2 PL, 35pts] + Troops + Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts]: 4x Battle Sister . . Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts]: 4x Battle Sister . . Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts]: 4x Battle Sister . . Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun + Fast Attack + Seraphim Squad [4 PL, 55pts]: 4x Seraphim . . Seraphim Superior: Bolt pistol, Bolt pistol + Heavy Support + Exorcist [7 PL, 125pts] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 @Jason look an Emperor's Wrath Artillery 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted February 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Continuing to chew this over. The WGBL on bike rarely gets into combat, so I downsized him to a WGBL on foot, simply to contribute to the Bjorn/speeder castle. I also removed the Exorcist since its performance is so variable. The Deathstrike, once I have more bits, will actually be replaced by a Basilisk since this will be able to benefit from the Emperor's Wrath stratagems just like the Wyvern. I also realized that I so often choose the Recon ITC secondary objective that a throw-away drop pod will be useful for that and grabbing objectives; plus the WGBL has a storm bolter (upgradable to the Frostfury relic if the situation requires) and together with the drop pod could be quite potent against infantry from 24" range. I added some Dominions back in (with a budget transport this time) because I need to reliably deny powers like Da Jump or Warptime on the first turn, which they can do with the Purity of Faith stratagem. Here's the latest version, warlord traits and relics not listed except for the Vigilus ones that I'll always take: +++ ITC_AM_SW_SoB_2k (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [124 PL, 13CP, 1915pts] +++ ++ Reinforcement Points [85pts] ++ ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [50 PL, 6CP, 738pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Battle-forged CP [3CP] Detachment CP [5CP] Field Commander [-1CP] Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Vostroyan Vigilus Defiant [-1CP]: Emperor's Wrath Artillery Company + HQ + Company Commander [2 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword, Emperor's Wrath, Laspistol, Warlord Tank Commander [12 PL, 167pts]: Heavy Bolter . . Command Exterminator: Turret-mounted Exterminator Autocannon Tank Commander [12 PL, 170pts]: Heavy Bolter . . Command Punisher: Turret-mounted Punisher Gatling Cannon + Troops + Infantry Squad [3 PL, 45pts] . . 7x Guardsman . . Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar . . Sergeant: Laspistol Infantry Squad [3 PL, 45pts] . . 7x Guardsman . . Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar . . Sergeant: Laspistol Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman . . Sergeant: Laspistol + Elites + Master of Ordnance [2 PL, 30pts]: Emperor's Wrath, Relic (Emperor's Wrath): Agripinaa-Class Orbital Tracker, WT (Emperor's Wrath): Lord of Ordnance + Heavy Support + Basilisks [7 PL, 108pts]: Emperor's Wrath . . Basilisk: Heavy Bolter Wyverns [6 PL, 103pts]: Emperor's Wrath . . Wyvern: Heavy Bolter ++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Wolves) [39 PL, 1CP, 655pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Detachment CP [2CP (+1 from Bjorn)] + HQ + Bjorn the Fell-handed [12 PL, 234pts]: Heavy flamer, Twin lascannon Wolf Guard Battle Leader [4 PL, 62pts]: Chainsword, Storm bolter + Fast Attack + Land Speeders [6 PL, 98pts] . . Land Speeder: Heavy bolter, Typhoon missile launcher Land Speeders [6 PL, 98pts] . . Land Speeder: Heavy bolter, Typhoon missile launcher Land Speeders [6 PL, 98pts] . . Land Speeder: Heavy bolter, Typhoon missile launcher + Dedicated Transport + Drop Pod [5 PL, 65pts]: Storm bolter ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adepta Sororitas) [35 PL, 5CP, 522pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Detachment CP [5CP] Order Convictions: Order: Bloody Rose + HQ + Celestine [8 PL, 160pts] Missionary [2 PL, 35pts] + Troops + Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts]: 4x Battle Sister . . Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts]: 4x Battle Sister . . Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts]: 4x Battle Sister . . Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun + Fast Attack + Dominion Squad [5 PL, 60pts] . . Dominion Superior: Bolt pistol, Storm bolter . . Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter . . Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter . . Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter . . Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter Seraphim Squad [4 PL, 55pts]: 4x Seraphim . . Seraphim Superior: Bolt pistol, Bolt pistol + Dedicated Transport + Sororitas Rhino [4 PL, 77pts]: 2x Storm bolter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted February 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 Assuming the WD comes out this Friday, which my FLGS tells me is the case, I'll be taking the above list to two ITC tournaments this weekend. One is 40K at The Launchpad, and the other is March Kastle Brawl. Will post batreps here sometime next week! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dusldorf Posted March 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Got fourth at today's tourney out of 6 people. First game ended in a loss (17-21, IIRC) against Tau with 3 breacher squads, two 3-man battlesuit squads w/ ion, 2 ion commanders, 1 missile-pod coldstar, 2 ion riptides, a skyray, a bunch of drones and a few other things I'm forgetting. I made the most mistakes in this game, but learned a ton about Tau, my own army, which secondaries to go for, and how to move my units in order to deny the opponent's secondaries. Second game was against 4 Knights + the Loyal 32. Ended in a draw on turn 3. Third game was a win against Chaos Marines (Khorne + Iron Warriors). Pretty lulzy game and he only had a rhino alive at the end. Looking forward to tomorrow's tourney where I can put some of the lessons learned to good use. BTW the new ITC secondaries are pretty great, and I like how the Chapter Approved deployment rules are mixed in with the ITC (the former are used in the even-numbered missions, and the latter in the others). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted March 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 Got second at Sunday's tourney out of 16 people; went 3-0 but had fewer VP than the 1st place winner. First game was against Deathwatch, second was against Drukhari Flesh Coven w/ Aeldari psyker support including Eldrad , and third game was against Catachan brigade + a House Raven Castellan and two Armigers. Wouldn't have won the second game without picking the Vindicare for my assassin wildcard (he got 3 important character kills including a warlock skyrunner, a haemonculus, and Urien), and wouldn't have won the third game without using a chess clock since my opponent was pretty slow, albeit a great guy (he ran out of time on the last turn and would probably have killed too much of my remaining stuff). Fun times 🙂 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Way to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted March 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 Went to a tourney a few days back and, after scoring 41 points in round 1, I lost my second game to a Death Guard army featuring Mortarion, Ahriman, three plagueburst crawlers, two daemon princes, a leviathan dreadnought w/ double butcher cannons, and maybe one or two other things that I forget. Death Guard is one of my weakest match-ups, and after this I realized it was time to plug a pretty glaring hole in my list: its inability to deal with 4+ invulnerable saves on primarchs and stuff like that. (Note that knights have hardly ever been a problem for me, since they can be easily move-blocked with infantry; but Mortarion is pretty much unstoppable unless I kill him turn 1.) So I've rewritten my list to include three Librarians, so that I can cast Null Zone with Empyric Channeling and put some serious hurt on things like Morty. Getting Null Zone in the right place requires a lot of mobility, and all three Librarians were chosen for that purpose: the White Scars one can advance 20", the Phobos one can cast Temporal Corridor on himself to get a free advance, and the Blood Angels one can either double move with Wings of Sanguinius or deep strike into position. These choices meant giving up the Sisters and the Space Wolves, with only the core Vostroyan Battalion remaining. I chose Black Templars for the troops in my Space Marine Battalion since these give me the ability to deny on a 4+ just like the Sisters did, and with even more board coverage. The Manticore and Blood Angels smash captain together make up for (and some might say exceed) the shooting and close-combat perks that were provided by Bjorn. The Astropath will provide some added resilience to the Punisher Leman Russ, which is often among the first things that my opponents target. The Thunderfire Cannon's Tremor Shells, plus the Phobos Librarian's Tenebrous Curse power, will allow me to kite Knights and Orks with relative ease. And the list still has 85 reserve points for that tasty Assassin wildcard. Overall I think this list has a lot more flexibility than my previous one, though it comes with some additional liabilities: nearly all of the characters are easy to kill if they get charged, meaning I need to be extra careful with my positioning. I also no longer have a a Sisters Rhino sitting in the midfield with a 5++ to screen my characters; the scouts will have to fulfill that role by hiding in enclosed ruins or otherwise out of LOS. Pretty excited to see how it does on the tabletop! Below the list I've also pasted some images of a few recent conversions, including the Astropath and Phobos Librarian (more pics can be found in my "Just Dusldorf Things" thread in the Artificers Forge sub-forum). + HQ + Librarian in Phobos Armour: Camo cloak, Force sword (Raven Guard) Librarian on Bike: Boltgun, Force sword, Twin boltgun (White Scars) + Troops + Scout Squad (Black Templars) . Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun . 4x Scout w/Boltgun Scout Squad (Black Templars) . Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun . 4x Scout w/Boltgun Scout Squad (Black Templars) . Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun . 4x Scout w/Boltgun + Heavy Support + Thunderfire Cannon (Black Templars) . Techmarine Gunner . . Servo-harness: Flamer, Plasma cutter ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) ++ + No Force Org Slot + Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Vostroyan Vigilus Defiant: Emperor's Wrath Artillery Company + HQ + Company Commander: Bolt pistol, Chainsword, Emperor's Wrath, Warlord Tank Commander: Heavy Bolter . Command Punisher: Turret-mounted Punisher Gatling Cannon Tank Commander: Heavy Bolter . Command Exterminator: Turret-mounted Exterminator Autocannon + Troops + Infantry Squad: 9x Guardsman . Sergeant: Laspistol Infantry Squad: 9x Guardsman . Sergeant: Laspistol Infantry Squad: 9x Guardsman . Sergeant: Laspistol + Elites + Astropath: Laspistol, Nightshroud Master of Ordnance: Emperor's Wrath, Relic (Emperor's Wrath): Agripinaa-Class Orbital Tracker, Field Commander WT (Emperor's Wrath): Lord of Ordnance + Heavy Support + Basilisks: Emperor's Wrath . Basilisk: Heavy Bolter Manticore: Heavy Bolter Wyverns: Emperor's Wrath . Wyvern: Heavy Bolter ++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Blood Angels) ++ + HQ + Captain: Jump Pack, Thunder hammer Librarian: Bolt pistol, Force axe, Jump Pack + Fast Attack + Land Speeders . Land Speeder: Heavy bolter, Typhoon missile launcher Land Speeders . Land Speeder: Heavy bolter, Typhoon missile launcher Land Speeders . Land Speeder: Heavy bolter, Typhoon missile launcher Phobos Librarian Astropath 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 NICE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted April 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Here's the latest version. I replaced the Manticore with a second Basilisk and used the spare points to add a mortar to each infantry squad, plus a storm shield to the smash captain. I really like the Manticore but this is more efficient, especially since I'm running an Emperor's Wrath detachment. Still has 85 reserve points for the assassin. ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Marines) ++ + HQ + Librarian in Phobos Armour: Camo cloak, Force sword (Raven Guard) Librarian on Bike: Boltgun, Force sword, Twin boltgun (White Scars) + Troops + Scout Squad (Black Templars) . Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun . 4x Scout w/Boltgun Scout Squad (Black Templars) . Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun . 4x Scout w/Boltgun Scout Squad (Black Templars) . Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun . 4x Scout w/Boltgun + Heavy Support + Thunderfire Cannon (Black Templars) . Techmarine Gunner . . Servo-harness: Flamer, Plasma cutter ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) ++ + No Force Org Slot + Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Vostroyan Vigilus Defiant: Emperor's Wrath Artillery Company + HQ + Company Commander: Bolt pistol, Chainsword, Emperor's Wrath, Warlord Tank Commander: Heavy Bolter . Command Punisher: Turret-mounted Punisher Gatling Cannon Tank Commander: Heavy Bolter . Command Exterminator: Turret-mounted Exterminator Autocannon + Troops + Infantry Squad: 7x Guardsman, Mortar team . Sergeant: Laspistol Infantry Squad: 7x Guardsman, Mortar team . Sergeant: Laspistol Infantry Squad: 7x Guardsman, Mortar team . Sergeant: Laspistol + Elites + Astropath: Laspistol, Nightshroud Master of Ordnance: Emperor's Wrath, Relic (Emperor's Wrath): Agripinaa-Class Orbital Tracker, Field Commander WT (Emperor's Wrath): Lord of Ordnance + Heavy Support + Basilisks: Emperor's Wrath . Basilisk: Heavy Bolter Basilisks: Emperor's Wrath . Basilisk: Heavy Bolter Wyverns: Emperor's Wrath . Wyvern: Heavy Bolter ++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Blood Angels) ++ + HQ + Captain: Jump Pack, Thunder hammer, Storm Shield Librarian: Bolt pistol, Force axe, Jump Pack + Fast Attack + Land Speeders . Land Speeder: Heavy bolter, Typhoon missile launcher Land Speeders . Land Speeder: Heavy bolter, Typhoon missile launcher Land Speeders . Land Speeder: Heavy bolter, Typhoon missile launcher Total points: 1915 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted April 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2019 Went back to the drawing board yesterday and decided that a more efficient solution would be to empower units like the smash captain and Emperor's Wrath artillery with a larger pool of command points. This time it's back to Sisters--a brigade of them, in fact--and the psykers are gone. Looking forward to trying this out tomorrow: ++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Imperium - Adepta Sororitas) [82 PL, 3CP, 1227pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Battle-forged CP [3CP] Order: Bloody Rose + HQ + Canoness [3 PL, 68pts]: Combi-plasma, Eviscerator, Warlord Celestine [8 PL, 160pts] Missionary [2 PL, 35pts] + Troops + Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts]: 4x Battle Sister . Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts]: 4x Battle Sister . Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts]: 4x Battle Sister . Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts]: 4x Battle Sister . Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts]: 4x Battle Sister . Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts]: 4x Battle Sister . Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun + Elites + Dialogus [1 PL, 30pts] Hospitaller [2 PL, 30pts] Preacher [3 PL, 25pts] + Fast Attack + Dominion Squad [5 PL, 50pts]: 4x Dominion . Dominion Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun Dominion Squad [5 PL, 60pts] . Dominion Superior: Bolt pistol, Storm bolter . Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter . Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter . Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter . Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter Seraphim Squad [6 PL, 127pts] . 6x Seraphim . Seraphim Superior: Bolt pistol, Bolt pistol . Seraphim w/ Special Weapons: 2x Inferno Pistols . Seraphim w/ Special Weapons: 2x Inferno Pistols + Heavy Support + Exorcist [7 PL, 125pts] Exorcist [7 PL, 125pts] Retributor Squad [5 PL, 45pts]: 4x Retributor . Retributor Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun + Dedicated Transport + Sororitas Rhino [4 PL, 77pts]: 2x Storm bolter ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [33 PL, -2CP, 509pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Field Commander [-1CP] Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Vostroyan Vigilus Defiant [-1CP]: Emperor's Wrath Artillery Company + HQ + Company Commander [2 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword, Emperor's Wrath, Laspistol, WT (Emperor's Wrath): Lord of Ordnance Company Commander [2 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword, Emperor's Wrath, Laspistol + Troops + Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman . Sergeant: Laspistol Infantry Squad [3 PL, 45pts] . 7x Guardsman . Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar . Sergeant: Laspistol Infantry Squad [3 PL, 45pts] . 7x Guardsman . Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar . Sergeant: Laspistol + Heavy Support + Basilisks [7 PL, 108pts]: Emperor's Wrath . Basilisk: Heavy Bolter Basilisks [7 PL, 108pts]: Emperor's Wrath . Basilisk: Heavy Bolter Wyverns [6 PL, 103pts]: Emperor's Wrath . Wyvern: Heavy Bolter ++ Patrol Detachment (Imperium - Blood Angels) [10 PL, 179pts] ++ + HQ + Captain [6 PL, 124pts]: Jump Pack, Storm shield, Thunder hammer + Troops + Scout Squad [4 PL, 55pts] . Scout: Combat knife . Scout: Combat knife . Scout: Combat knife . Scout: Combat knife . Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Combat knife ++ Total Points: 1915 ++ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted April 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 Latest iteration has more distinct board control elements: sticky blobs to take key objectives while the smaller sisters squads screen and spread out. These are also supported by more characters than before: I'm now running three Canonesses, which are insanely efficient with eviscerators + the Bloody Rose trait. I dropped Celestine since only a couple of units (the Rhino and Seraphim) really benefited from the maxed-out Shield of Faith save. A key tactic with this list is the Company Commander taking the Dagger of Tu'Sakh to keep himself and the Conscript blob in reserve. Normally Conscripts suck ass, but the Vostroyan First Born Pride strat will make them shoot at BS4 instead of 5, and proper positioning with my Astropath should make them immune to morale. Before they arrive, the plan is to be extremely aggressive with the Crusaders, who can take a ton of punishment with help from Psychic Barrier. ++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Imperium - Adepta Sororitas) [84 PL, 14CP, 1366pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot [6 PL, 14CP, 215pts] + Battle-forged CP [3CP] Crusaders [6 PL, 130pts] . 10x Crusaders [130pts]: 10x Power sword [40pts] Detachment CP [12CP] Operative Requisition Sanctioned [-1CP, 85pts] Order Convictions: Order: Bloody Rose + HQ [11 PL, 231pts] + Canoness [3 PL, 60pts]: Combi-plasma [11pts], Frag & Krak grenades, Power sword [4pts], Relic: Blade of Admonition, Warlord Canoness [3 PL, 68pts]: Combi-plasma [11pts], Eviscerator [12pts], Frag & Krak grenades Canoness [3 PL, 68pts]: Combi-plasma [11pts], Eviscerator [12pts], Frag & Krak grenades Missionary [2 PL, 35pts]: Autogun, Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades, Laspistol + Troops [24 PL, 270pts] + Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts] . 4x Battle Sister [36pts]: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Sister Superior [9pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts] . 4x Battle Sister [36pts]: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Sister Superior [9pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts] . 4x Battle Sister [36pts]: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Sister Superior [9pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts] . 4x Battle Sister [36pts]: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Sister Superior [9pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts] . 4x Battle Sister [36pts]: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Sister Superior [9pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 45pts] . 4x Battle Sister [36pts]: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Sister Superior [9pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades + Elites [6 PL, 85pts] + Dialogus [1 PL, 30pts]: Dialogus Staff Hospitaller [2 PL, 30pts]: Chirurgeon's tools Preacher [3 PL, 25pts]: Chainsword, Laspistol + Fast Attack [14 PL, 193pts] + Dominion Squad [5 PL, 50pts] . 4x Dominion [40pts]: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Dominion Superior [10pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades Dominion Squad [5 PL, 60pts] . Dominion Superior [12pts]: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Storm bolter [2pts] . Dominion w/ Special Weapon [12pts]: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Storm bolter [2pts] . Dominion w/ Special Weapon [12pts]: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Storm bolter [2pts] . Dominion w/ Special Weapon [12pts]: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Storm bolter [2pts] . Dominion w/ Special Weapon [12pts]: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Storm bolter [2pts] Seraphim Squad [4 PL, 83pts] . 2x Seraphim [22pts]: 4x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades . Seraphim Superior [11pts]: Bolt pistol, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades . Seraphim w/ Special Weapons [25pts]: 2x Inferno Pistols [14pts], Frag & Krak grenades . Seraphim w/ Special Weapons [25pts]: 2x Inferno Pistols [14pts], Frag & Krak grenades + Heavy Support [19 PL, 295pts] + Exorcist [7 PL, 125pts]: Exorcist missile launcher Exorcist [7 PL, 125pts]: Exorcist missile launcher Retributor Squad [5 PL, 45pts] . 4x Retributor [36pts]: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Retributor Superior [9pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades + Dedicated Transport [4 PL, 77pts] + Sororitas Rhino [4 PL, 77pts]: 2x Storm bolter [4pts] ++ Patrol Detachment (Imperium - Blood Angels) [10 PL, 0CP, 179pts] ++ + HQ [6 PL, 124pts] + Captain [6 PL, 124pts]: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Jump Pack [1 PL, 19pts], Storm shield [10pts], Thunder hammer [21pts] + Troops [4 PL, 55pts] + Scout Squad [4 PL, 55pts] . Scout [11pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades . Scout [11pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades . Scout [11pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades . Scout [11pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades . Scout Sergeant [11pts]: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades ++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [24 PL, 0CP, 455pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot [] + Detachment CP [1CP] Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Vostroyan Vigilus Defiant [-1CP]: Emperor's Wrath Artillery Company [-1CP] + HQ [2 PL, 39pts] + Company Commander [2 PL, 39pts]: Boltgun [1pts], Emperor's Wrath, Frag grenades, Power fist [8pts] + Troops [4 PL, 120pts] + Conscripts [4 PL, 120pts] . 30x Conscript [120pts]: 30x Lasgun + Elites [2 PL, 52pts] + Astropath [1 PL, 26pts]: Laspistol, Psychic Barrier Astropath [1 PL, 26pts]: Laspistol, Mental Fortitude + Heavy Support [16 PL, 244pts] + Basilisks [7 PL, 108pts]: Emperor's Wrath . Basilisk [7 PL, 108pts]: Earthshaker Cannon, Heavy Bolter [8pts], Stat Damage (HS) Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 33pts] . Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Lasgun, Mortar [5pts] . Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Lasgun, Mortar [5pts] . Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Lasgun, Mortar [5pts] Wyverns [6 PL, 103pts]: Emperor's Wrath, Stat Damage (HS) . Wyvern [6 PL, 103pts]: Heavy Bolter [8pts], Wyven Quad Stormshard Mortar ++ Total: [118 PL, 14CP, 2000pts] ++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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