pretre Posted October 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 27 minutes ago, Frowbakk said: Buy this OTHER Book for the second half of the rules to round out your army... Looted Wagons = Other armies Tanks (but with Orkified weapons) Looted Karts = Other armies Transports (but with Orkified weapons) White Dwarf (and collected in CA) has been a place for extra rules that didn't make it into the codex for how many years? Even ignoring historical context from previous editions, we know that there's going to be rules in the Chapter Approved every year with new stuff and points adjustments. Some of those rules and adjustments are going to be for armies you own. I get that the negative 'not my orktober' train is full steam ahead, but come on 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 I'm so excited for the book Orktober got interesting just as I had time to pay attention! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Glacius Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Was looking at the sprues for the new vehicle kits. I'm not too convinced that those are going to leave you with very much. I mean a few trim pieces to use on other kits, like icons or an extra pipe or something...but nothing major. I didn't see any extra weapons or options at all really. If you buy two of the same kit, its going to be up to the builder to find ways to making them different outside of the kit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Trainer Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 16 minutes ago, Brother Glacius said: Was looking at the sprues for the new vehicle kits. I'm not too convinced that those are going to leave you with very much. I mean a few trim pieces to use on other kits, like icons or an extra pipe or something...but nothing major. I didn't see any extra weapons or options at all really. If you buy two of the same kit, its going to be up to the builder to find ways to making them different outside of the kit. Yeah I agree. Also looked closer at the Speed Freekz set, and it's just 2 larger vehicles, and 6 bikes really (and some little terrain). So at the $150 price point, you had really WANT the speed freekz rules. That said, for the ork fans, cool stuff, just had hoped it included more minis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dark Trainer said: Yeah I agree. Also looked at the Speed Freekz set, and it's just 2 larger vehicles, and 6 bikes really (sure you get a little terrain and some markers). So at the $150 price point, you had really WANT the speed freekz rules. That said, for the ork fans, cool stuff. Yeah, didn't seem much of a good deal like the other box sets. And that terrain is very lackluster. The vehicles are nice, but those bikes are rather old kits at this point (still young compared to Khorne Berzerkers, but otherwise pretty old kits). Maybe the bikes are getting a price hike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Glacius Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 And you can't get two of the vehicles without getting the Speedfreak set 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 52 minutes ago, Brother Glacius said: And you can't get two of the vehicles without getting the Speedfreak set 😞 Oh, really? That's even worse. Though it does kinda support my idea that they don't intend to sell as many ork kits as they expect ork players to convert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Brother Glacius said: And you can't get two of the vehicles without getting the Speedfreak set 😞 Yet. Chances are they will be released separately, just like all the other 'exclusive' board game minis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 created : about 10 hours ago Ork Codex Review ! Tags : orcs warhammer 40 000 Hello everyone !!! Sorry for the delay on this review but at last here ours The Book is hard cover, 136 pages. Lot of Contents. The Fluff There are 64 pages of Fluff that's the biggest orcs ever had. -Lot of info on Ghazghkull Thraka that connect him to the Great rift event. -The Thraka Quest. He's looking for something different than Armageddon, -Big section on orcs physiology and whay of life. -Some info on their origins. They have stuff encoded in their DNA. This allow them to retain a weird high level of technologies - 1 page for every clan, - 1 for each entries of the codex - + fluff on gods, grots, snots, timeline, rumor .. Very good stuff The Rules Generic rules. All orcs army get some special rules : -Keyword : Some units have don't have the Keyword ''clan'' like freebooters and Named Characters. - Dakka Dakka Dakka : On an unmodified 6 you get an extra shot and it always hit. -Ere we go : Reroll any or all of the dice on a charge roll. This is incredebly powerfull as you can reach very far if you can keep one of the dice. Most of the units have access to this rule. Mob rules : Replace LD with number of your unit or by one unit within 6”. Really help if you have 2 big units close they are nearly immune to morale test. Speed mob : Buggies only they get an extra 6” mov. That's already a lot of rules helping the orcs. Klan kultur All Kultur were already spoiled by GW so I just share the page for reference. Stratagem 19 stratagems + 6 for Kulturs Few of my favorites -Green tide : Allow to respawn a boys unit that was under half strength( 3cp) -The Bad moon stratagem, allow to shoot a second time (infantry only) -Grot shield, it's a 2+fnp but you have to sac a gretchin if it works. (1cp and super strong) -Telyporta : Deep strike one unit with a Power of 20 or lesss . Work with a transport + unit. -Fight a second time with a unit (3cp) -Orcs is never beaten : fight before dying. (2cp) Psychic If you had to keep 1 psy power it would be : Da Jump : teleport infantry within 12” unit 9'' from the enemy, count as moved for heavy weapon. That mean you can teleport a Tankbusta unit and take out an enemy vehicle (ever more guaranteed if you are a bad moon !) But if you had to keep another one it would be fist of Gork (+2A +2S) Shiny Gubbins & Warlord traits Traits Again !! Bad moon warlord are the Best !! with a 4++ trait ! Still there is a generic trait granting : +1S +1A ^^ Shiny Gubbins This is the relic you must take ! So that mean that your warlord could be hitting 7 times 2+ 2+ Ap3 D3 (with trait and psychic power) charge something super big (move + run + charge with charge reroll) destroy it, Fight a second time if you get chance (3cp) and if you die you can fight a third time (2cp)^^ Funny ^^ Now that the general stuff is behind us let's take a quick look at the different units of the codex. B) Units I follow the Codex layout : QG, troop, Elite , Fast attack, Heavy support, flyer, LOW Boss & Friend The Waagh HR is well staffed !! let's look at our options : Ghazghkull Thraka The prophet ! A bit less than 250 pts. Very survivable with T6 8w with 2+/4+ and can hide behind his boys. In melee it's 6 attacks on charge 2+ 12s -3 3 ^^. GT have the same waaaagh rule as other boss (allow orcs infantry units within 6” to run and charge) but he grant one extra attacks to charging units within 6” of him (when they are chose to fight.). He also have an aura that grant auto pass morale within 6” vs 1d3 mw on the units. Only problem is that he's Goff clan and kind of expensive . Warboss Its a weaker GT with lower stats, lower range on Morale aura and no extra attacks on charge aura. But costing no more than 5 marines and 2 more marines for the equipment. Even if you have Ghazghkull Thraka you can still use a boss as a relay for Waaaaaaagh rules. Big mek With Shokk Attack Gun -Can repair stuff, shoot with an AP 5 gun and have a small chance to generate MW. -He's kind of expensive (a bit less than 90pt) for a BS 5+ Big mek in mega armor More expensive but with a 5++ againt shooting for units wholly within 9” or can grant it to a vehicle if embarked. (I am not sure you can embark and still grant the 9” bubble) Weird boy Psyker , start with smite + 1 , not too bad in melee, cheap, and still have waaagh energy (getting +1 to rolls for every 10 orcs within 10”. suffer peril if you roll more than 12” Boss Snikrot Infiltrate, Melee beast against soft target, get a bonus to wound inside cover and a 3+ from cover save. Nothing crazy. Boss Zag struck Very good with goff stormboys as he grant them auto pass morale, melee beast, can deep strike. DeffKilla Wartike Very good model. Got the Character trait to stay protected from shooting. Grant the Waaaaagh rules for Biker and Vehicules for obscene turn 1 charge ^^ Captain Badrukk BS 4+ , 1 reroll each turn with plasma gun with 1 , have reroll 1 aura for Flash gitz. Have freebooters Keywords instead of Clan but can still be added to any clan or freebooters army. Troops Only 2 choice here ^^ Boys or Gretchin. Boys 7 points a piece feel expensive but they are WS3+ S4 A2 They get +1 attack if more than 20. 1 Tankbusta bomb every 10 (D3 / s8 -2 D1d6) 1 Rokkit/Biig slugga every 10 Same options as usual. Gretchins Same as before ! They have a +1 to hit if more than 20 (melee and ranged). Grot blasta is still range 12 pistol S3. But hit on 3+ if you take a large pack. Still super usefull with the grot shield stratagem. Elite Super crowded slot ! Mad Dok GrotSnik Good melée, grant 6+ FNP, can Heal on a 2+, Must charge. Pain boy Downgraded version of Mad Dok but still grant the 6+ Fnp. MeK Repair and come equiped with a custom pistol (S8 AP-3 D6) Runtherd Handle Gretchins nothing more. Burna boys Burna in melee is AP-2 They are ok, You can run shoot and then charge. You can include 1 spanner every 5 Burna the come equiped with a Kustom Mega Blasta. TankBustas They reroll miss against Vehicle. Every 5 you get 2 squig suicide bomber (range 18”, 2+, s8, Ap 2 , D6) 10points. I Really like them, you can pack them in a Battlewagon with a Power Shield Mek and once in 18” you unleash the Squig ! Note : With a stratagem allowing you to shoot twice it's serious dakka Nobs Still Big, mean, with a lots of weapons options. Nothing specials. Nob with Waaagh banner Waaagh banner grant +1 to hit in fight phase for unit. Very handy Meganobs Lots of Dakka, lots of attacks 3 W per guys. Perfect with the Deep strike stratagem and the Charge reroll from Ere we go. Nobs on warbike Scary nobs on Scary threat range. Having The Boss on the Trike allowing them to run and charge is a must ^^ Kommandos Infiltrate, gain bonus in cover (+1w +2 save) Fast Attack Now that speed Freeks is out, there are geat choice here ! Warbikers -Only 23 points and you can move , run, shoot and charge with the Trike Boss. That's a lot of value. I love them and want to use them. (still 6 shots per bike) Kustom Boosta Blastas -Get the 6” free move at the start the game. -4d3 flamer shot + 6 rivet kannon shot that's a lot of dakka. Shokk Jump Dragstas My favourite, Anti tank weapons hitting on 3+ in orcs team, teleport for a bit less than 110. And look so damn good. Boomdakka Snazzwagons Not a big fan of this one but against horde army they are fun ^^. Less than 100 points. Megatrakk Scrapjets -Lot of Dakka : 2d3 missiles, 12 big shoota, 1 4+ missile. -It's the slowest of the Wagons (only 10”) and it's a bit sad. RukkatruKK Squigbuggies The Model is awesome. Dakka is not that great but hit on 4+ The mines are good. Stormboys Move 12 can run auto 6 and charge 2d6 (with waaagh) with rerolls !!! (from Ere we go) Deepstrike. Cost less than 10 points !!! DeffKoptas Expensive, Medium amout of Dakka, Very fast, infiltrate. Heavy support I knew I should have counted the number of unit before doing a review unit by unit ^^ Mek guns up to 6 per slot, bs 4+, T5, W6. Dakka rule. Traktor Kannon AUTO HIT (48”, s8, ap2 D6) The Kustom Mega Canon is good too (36”, HeavyD6, S8, AP3, D6) Cost is 15pt base + 30 to 45 for the weapons. Ps : Once deployed they all act as independent model Battle Wagon 16 wounds can carry 20 models and open topped to be used as a mobile weapon platform by an tankbusta unit ^^. Even Better with a forcefield. Gun wagon It's a battle wagon with an Ard case and Kannon. The only difference is the Periscope rule that grant a second shot with the main weapon of move under half speed. Bone Breaka A battle wagon with a Deff Rolla ! So that's 1d6+6 attacks, hit on 2+, S9, Ap2, D2 Note Bone Break is the only one gaining +1d6 attacks on deff rolla charge. Killa Kans Bs 4+ on a sturdy chassis (t5 w5 3+) is expensive but having rokkit launcha is always good ^^ Deff Dreads Beastly in melee, Benefit from the Mechanised whaag for a run + charge. (And they have the Ere we go rule as well.) Morkanaut and Gorkanaut Both are similar, but Morkanaut can buy the forcefield and Gorkanaut need to transport a Big Mek to get the 5+ Gorkanaut have 6 Attacks. Again with Ere we go they get Good threat range even more if the Trike can make them run and charge. Because a Gorkanaut hit hard ^^ Lootas Deffgun are still Heavy D3 S7 Ap1 D2. Nothing much changed but you roll once for all the phase, in a turn you roll max number of shot you can use a stratagem to shoot a second time for up to 90 Deffgun shot^^ They are good fire support considering they don't cost much more than a SM Flash Git Still BS 4+, each snazzgun shot 3 time with S6 Ap2 D2, range is only 24” and the weapon is heavy. They also cost twice the price of a space marines. Note : The don't benefit from Orc Kultur unless you are playing a FreeBooters army. Trukk ransport 12 models, open topped, 10W. Have chance to reduce incoming damage. Still a good weapon platform for Embarked Tankhunter ^^ At the price of 5 space marines it's a bit expensive. Flyiers Orcs have 4 flyers let see how the codex treat them :DakkaJet T6 W12 4+ and hard to hit. This one is interesting for sure ! +1 to hit if you shoot the same target. Up to 18 shot S6 Ap1 D1 shot for a bit less than 10 marines in cost Burna Bommer Less dakka than the Dakkajet but same stats The burna Bommer have 2 bombs per battle. He can drop a unit, roll a dice for each model (up to 10) in the unit. 1 mortal wound on a 5+ (4+ vs Inf) . Harlequin killer ! Blitza Bommer Less dakka than the Burna Bommer but same stats The Bomb is better roll up to 12 dice MW on 4+ and roll 3 dice on monster and vehicule. Blitza Bommer The Same stats as all other flyers. Multiple Bling Weapons (Smasha gun, Wazboom Mega kanon). Not a big fan of the smasha gun (48”, Ap4, D1d6, roll 2d6 to wound add them and must roll equal or greater) but I am sure it could have his use. Lord OF War Only one choice here but what a choice !!! You know sometime an image is better than a thousand words : Ok that's it for the re unit review. but let's not forget about the Mek Workshop ! Conclusion This is a rich codex ! There are so many options and so many playstyles. You can go full shooting, full melee, full speed or mix any of them. Most of the choice are good. The new Trike warboss fill the boss biker shoes even if he's not as strong in close combat. This is surely the best Orc codex ever !!! Sorry, I wanted to do something more concise but the numbers of options and entries were so important that I couldn't keep it from growing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Must not collect Ork army. Must not collect Ork army. Must not coll... WAAAAAGH! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 21 hours ago, pretre said: Yet. Chances are they will be released separately, just like all the other 'exclusive' board game minis. I'm not so sure of that. As someone pointed out elsewhere, the sprues for those two don't have a spot to snap in half, so none of GW's standard packaging sizes will work well for them. If they do get a separate release, they'll probably be in pairs, either one of each, or two of the same per box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted November 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 Dis iz rubbish. Evr’y day I’z been givin’ you tips an’ stuff from the wurld of da ‘umies, and none of you’z been payin’ any attenshun. You’z not wearin’ da kaps or usin’ da taktiks or doin’ yer dakka properly. I woz talking to Zagrez da uvva day an’ now ‘e tells me dat none of you ladz can actually read and you’z jus’ been laughin’ at the pikturs. I spent ages yellin’ at the grots to draw those. They’re ‘eartbroken.* I’m givin’ da Bosspole back to da ‘umies. Dey can ‘ave their magic paper if they want. Humies: Sorry I took ya’ paper. I’z put all da stuff wot we nick’d in a Rok with some blasty bitz for ya’. You’z not getting da hat back ‘coz it’z nice an’ I like it. If ya’ ever need some mercenaries, give the Blood Axes a yell. – Kommisork Badfragg ++ ORK FOR THE DAY: Me. You’z iz all rubbish ++ * ’specially the ones I shot in da chest for not drawin’ fast enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 Shhh, now. No more Orktober, the grots have had too much squig sweeties and need their sleep. Now we must begin to complain about how disappointed we are by Nidvember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 I cant tell you how hard I am right now. Guys...guys...its finally happening. BLOOD AXE LOVE FOREVER!!!!!! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 My massive ork horde has been getting work outs the last couple months. Should be fun to see if I can maintain the list I have. Those Trikes are super ridiculously good, looks like,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 4 hours ago, fluger said: I cant tell you how hard I am right now. Guys...guys...its finally happening. BLOOD AXE LOVE FOREVER!!!!!! I was happy to see that... then I found out freebootaz got a kulture <swoon>. This is the best Saturday can't come fast enough... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 I'm just so happy that a Klan I've repped for 10 years is getting love. Amazingly, most of these traits are in line with my fandex ideas. So stoked. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 I'm excited enough I might just paint all my pirate orks! Blood Axes were the first orks I ever purchased but they were only to support the pirates! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted November 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 8 hours ago, fluger said: I cant tell you how hard I am right now. 4 hours ago, VonVilkee said: I was happy to see that... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 I was just looking at the preorders, and I noticed that the Mek Workshop also comes with the obstacle and barricade sprues from Speed Freeks. Now that's really looking like a good buy for $40. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted November 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, WestRider said: I was just looking at the preorders, and I noticed that the Mek Workshop also comes with the obstacle and barricade sprues from Speed Freeks. Now that's really looking like a good buy for $40. Oh dammit. I'll have to just buy that then. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 On 10/30/2018 at 11:56 AM, paxmiles said: Yeah, didn't seem much of a good deal like the other box sets. And that terrain is very lackluster. The vehicles are nice, but those bikes are rather old kits at this point (still young compared to Khorne Berzerkers, but otherwise pretty old kits). Maybe the bikes are getting a price hike? Just curious. Other buggys are what? $45? Ok, Warbikers are 41.25 That's 172.50 efore getting terrain and rules which we are looking at about $20 for the terrain as it is also in the Mek Shop kit Call it an even $200 kit for 150. I know I personally cheat since I will be getting it for for 90 but still, 150 is 22.50 off the cost of msrp models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 On 11/1/2018 at 8:12 AM, Ish said: Shhh, now. No more Orktober, the grots have had too much squig sweeties and need their sleep. Now we must begin to complain about how disappointed we are by Nidvember. You mean Nobvember right? We're we share stores of our Bountiful Waaghs! and all the choppy and shooty we got to partake as we kick grots under the table... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 Okay got the book... so many models I have that are no longer codex, this is getting complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, VonVilkee said: Okay got the book... so many models I have that are no longer codex, this is getting complicated. It's not too complicated. Big Mek with KFF, use Index, Warboss in Mega Armor or on Warbikers, use index. It will get easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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