pretre Posted November 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 That being said, you might want to start weaning yourself off of models without rules or converting them to make them other models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 7 hours ago, Lyraeus said: Just curious. Other buggys are what? $45? Ok, Warbikers are 41.25 That's 172.50 efore getting terrain and rules which we are looking at about $20 for the terrain as it is also in the Mek Shop kit Call it an even $200 kit for 150. I know I personally cheat since I will be getting it for for 90 but still, 150 is 22.50 off the cost of msrp models. Well, warbikers are a 5th ed kit. Terrain is just piles of random rubble, so despite giving you a "model" it's not really something you should have to buy. So I see it as $150 for two new vehicles, and a bunch of junk freebies. Now, compared to one of those HH Betrayal of Calnath box sets, also $150. You get 30 marines ($150 for 3 sets of 10), 5 Terminators ($60), a Contemptor Dread ($60), and two characters ($50), that's 38 models for the same $150. By comparison, I think GW is not offering you a very good deal, even assuming you really want those bikers and that rubble terrain. But sure, if you are brand new to Orks and are of the mindset that every ork kit should be bought and assembled as per the GW intructions, and are also unable to make your own terrain, then sure, $150 is better than the retail of buying these seperately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, paxmiles said: Well, warbikers are a 5th ed kit. Terrain is just piles of random rubble, so despite giving you a "model" it's not really something you should have to buy. So I see it as $150 for two new vehicles, and a bunch of junk freebies. Now, compared to one of those HH Betrayal of Calnath box sets, also $150. You get 30 marines ($150 for 3 sets of 10), 5 Terminators ($60), a Contemptor Dread ($60), and two characters ($50), that's 38 models for the same $150. By comparison, I think GW is not offering you a very good deal, even assuming you really want those bikers and that rubble terrain. But sure, if you are brand new to Orks and are of the mindset that every ork kit should be bought and assembled as per the GW intructions, and are also unable to make your own terrain, then sure, $150 is better than the retail of buying these seperately. Seems very elitist way of thinking. Especially since GW prices things based on how many they think people will need for an army or buy As for age, if it's a current model it's a current model. Trukks are old as well but they have aged well same with bikes compared to the buggys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 23 minutes ago, Lyraeus said: As for age, if it's a current model it's a current model. Trukks are old as well but they have aged well same with bikes compared to the buggys In fairness, neither the Trukk nor the Bikes are anywhere near as old as the Wartrakk, let alone the Warbuggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 42 minutes ago, pretre said: That being said, you might want to start weaning yourself off of models without rules or converting them to make them other models. This is my opinion too index will eventually be extremely outdated... this is a refresh of my 5th ed army. I have a lot of Nobz that were built as a squad when you could upgrade entire units to cybork bodies (and they were good)... it is getting complicated to find a core top then add to. The additions will either be new models, or cannibalized from my kan wall list. Figuring out what has enough synergies to pass is what is getting complicated. Freeboota kulture is what I am going to use (I know it has issues but it will totally work). Battle wagons having multiple entries and one supporting shooty far better is tempting but it isn't open topped so it ruins what I used to do with it, need to decide if that even matters any more! This is a pretty drastic departure but it will actually support the way I originally built the list in ways that the last few books didn't so I skipped them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, paxmiles said: I think GW is not offering you a very good deal, even assuming you really want those bikers and that rubble terrain Then don’t buy it. Problem solved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Lyraeus said: Seems very elitist way of thinking. Especially since GW prices things based on how many they think people will need for an army or buy As for age, if it's a current model it's a current model. Trukks are old as well but they have aged well same with bikes compared to the buggys Hmmm..."elitist." Maybe? Not sure how it applies here...hmm...Is it elitist to thing that people should be able to make their own Rubble Terrain? Seems like a really low bar...but if that's not a low bar for you, then I guess it is elitist. Weird to think about it being elitism. Probably is. Anyway, I only responded because you quoted me and gave an argument to something else I had said earlier. As LH points out, I'm not buying this set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted November 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 Got the Mek Workshop today. 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frowbakk Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 If the Mek Workshop doesn't get much use for buffing Speed Freeks vehicles, at least ou can mount it on a Stompa as an 'Iron Halo'. Too bad the Deffkilla Wartrke got the Primaris treatment in that there are no upgrades or weapon swaps to make to it, same thing with the new buggies. Stock Options and that's it. Without access to the Nob Weapons list the Deffkilla Wartrike can't get the 3 Damage Kill Klaw or Redder Armor (although adding it to a character riding in a Stompa could be funny). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skkipper Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 The whole not in the shops = not in the codex is a bummer. I don’t think I would pick up 40k today. I started in 93 and it was a modelers paradise. I am scaling way back and have khorne and Orks. I will probably switch to Orks for next year and see how it goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Skkipper said: The whole not in the shops = not in the codex is a bummer. I don’t think I would pick up 40k today. I started in 93 and it was a modelers paradise. I am scaling way back and have khorne and Orks. I will probably switch to Orks for next year and see how it goes This edition, especially with the rapid release schedule, has made it really hard to work on multiple armies. I'm stuggling with just Chaos and Bugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Trainer Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, paxmiles said: This edition, especially with the rapid release schedule, has made it really hard to work on multiple armies. I'm stuggling with just Chaos and Bugs. Sounds like a need to prioritize and be patient, rather than buying it all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 50 minutes ago, Dark Trainer said: Sounds like a need to prioritize and be patient, rather than buying it all. Succ logicc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Trainer Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 34 minutes ago, InfestedKerrigan said: Succ logicc Yeah, i can't argue this win right here. I suppose it's like telling a meth addict to slow down and take a break... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 BattleWagon with Supa-Kannon... Where is it? Yikes! It's Index only now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, Lord Hanaur said: BattleWagon with Supa-Kannon... Where is it? Yikes! It's Index only now? There are three main guns available, take a pick and stick it on the gunboat one to be able to double shoot what ever you pick! No ork gun looks the same, so you kinda have whatever you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, VonVilkee said: There are three main guns available, take a pick and stick it on the gunboat one to be able to double shoot what ever you pick! No ork gun looks the same, so you kinda have whatever you want. Okay but the old one allowed you 4 Rokkit Launchas AND the Supa-Kannon. Averages 11 missiles a round (basically) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Lord Hanaur said: Okay but the old one allowed you 4 Rokkit Launchas AND the Supa-Kannon. Averages 11 missiles a round (basically) Away from book but battle wagon wargear list has weapons on it... and I believe 4 extra bolt ons were allowed, my list went minimum guns so I didn't look too close yet. The special deffrolla tank is amazing tho! I really like the three versions even with the complications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 Just now, VonVilkee said: Away from book but battle wagon wargear list has weapons on it... and I believe 4 extra bolt ons were allowed, my list went minimum guns so I didn't look too close yet. The special deffrolla tank is amazing tho! I really like the three versions even with the complications. Yeah i do not hate that Deffrolla. Plus our club is called the Deffrollaz. So a big fan. Hehehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, VonVilkee said: Away from book but battle wagon wargear list has weapons on it... and I believe 4 extra bolt ons were allowed, my list went minimum guns so I didn't look too close yet. The special deffrolla tank is amazing tho! I really like the three versions even with the complications. Im looking ta the book now. The GUNWAGON lets you take a KillKannon, albeit those shots only do 2 damage. Firing it twice makes you go slow which is also not the goal. Hmm... Also it lets you take 4 Big Shootas but...I mean...why would you? So yeah The former one seems infinitely better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Lord Hanaur said: Also it lets you take 4 Big Shootas but...I mean...why would you? Cuz da only fing better den dakka is moar dakka! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Ish said: Cuz da only fing better den dakka is moar dakka! It's difficult to argue with that logic. But then...it's difficult to argue with orks in general. hehehe. Lord knows the Aun have tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 It's really easy to argue with Orks. Well, it's easy to get into an argument, but it's not very easy to win one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Ish said: It's really easy to argue with Orks. Well, it's easy to get into an argument, but it's not very easy to win one. Precisely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Lord Hanaur said: Im looking ta the book now. The GUNWAGON lets you take a KillKannon, albeit those shots only do 2 damage. Firing it twice makes you go slow which is also not the goal. Hmm... Also it lets you take 4 Big Shootas but...I mean...why would you? So yeah The former one seems infinitely better. Kill cannon is str 8 vs 7 in the index... Did some quick math basic battle wagon with 5 tank bustas is 18 pts cheaper than index battle wagon with kill cannon and 4 rockets... I think the new one is better add you get kulture and extra attacks on sixes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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