Grav Gun Question

[Guest]

If a model has a save characteristic of 4+ and is in cover, does that count as the 3+ save mentioned in the Grav Gun text?

[Ish]

The Grav-Gun and related weapons’ special rule says “If the target has a Save characteristic of 3+ or better, this weapon has a Damage characteristic of D3.“ (Emphasis added.)

So you need to look at the base save on the target’s Datasheet. An Imperial Guard Infantry Squad has a 5+ Save characteristic, even if in cover.

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, Ish said:

The Grav-Gun and related weapons’ special rule says “If the target has a Save characteristic of 3+ or better, this weapon has a Damage characteristic of D3.“ (Emphasis added.)

So you need to look at the base save on the target’s Datasheet. An Imperial Guard Infantry Squad has a 5+ Save characteristic, even if in cover.

So "Save Characteristic" doesn't include modifiers?

It doesn't mention anything about the base value, which is why I asked.

[Guest]

I guess what I'm asking is if the save characteristic changes with modifiers, or if it's a static value?

[Ish]

A model’s Characteristics are defined on its Datasheet (BRB, p. 174), amongst them is the Save. Saving Throw modifiers like AP and Cover affect the die roll not the base Characteristic (BRB, p. 181).

A Chaos Space Marine has a Save Characteristic of 3+, he gets hit with a Bolt Rifle with AP -1. The player now needs to roll a four or more to succeed on the Saving Throw, but that’s because the die roll is modified, the stat line for the model remains the same.