KAPcom Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Hoping to get some feedback on the list I plan on running at OFCC. I've never attended the event before, and wanted to make sure my list isn't going to cause any problems. Thanks in advance! Chapter Tactics: Ultramarines HQ: Master of the forge (90) Elites: Sternguard squad (195) -5-man, 4x combi-plasma, drop pod Troops: Tactical Squad (125) -Meltagun, combi-melta, drop pod Tactical Squad (125) -Meltagun, combi-melta, drop pod Tactical Squad (125) -Meltagun, combi-melta, drop pod Tactical Squad (130) -Plasmagun, combi-plasma, drop pod Tactical Squad (130) -Plasmagun, combi-plasma, drop pod Tactical Squad (130) -Plasmagun, combi-plasma, drop pod Fast atk: Stormtalon Gunship -Skyhammer missle launcher Stormtalon Gunship -Skyhammer missle launcher Heavy Support: Thunderfire Cannon (100) Thunderfire Cannon (100) Knights Detachment: Gerantus, the forgotten knight (500) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Pods are actually reaaaally good right now and this list is certainly no slouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisruptiveConduct Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 I think the knight puts it firmly in a 3 category (high difficulty rating) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 And a tough Knight at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAPcom Posted July 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 So, having never attended the event, how does the rating system work? What rating do you want to be in? As far as team comp. goes, do you want a range of ratings within the team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Keep in mind that this is a friendly event. You want friendly lists that will allow you to have a good game while avoiding a rock-paper-scissors type match up. You want your team to build a number of lists that will allow your captain to assign each person to someone on the other team without creating these bad matchups. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisruptiveConduct Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 List rating is different every year depending on event rules and ppl on the rating committee. Take the weakest list you have played against. Now build a list that will be fun for them to play against. That's a 1. Take a list that has some tools and maybe a tough unit or two. Now build a list that you will have to work to win against. Thats a 2. Take a list that ripped yer guts out and threw them on the floor in front of you. Now build a list that you think will counter it. That's a 3. Hope this helps. And please remember its always subjective so my ideas can be different then the rating committee's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAPcom Posted July 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 So, in general, will I have issues bringing drop pods to this event? Are people going to hate my guts for bringing a list with 7 pods or so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAPcom Posted July 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Sorry for all the questions, but what will be done about codexes released between the list deadline and the actual event? (Example: If I wanted to use space wolves, would I need to use the current codex / FAQ or the new codex when it comes out?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisruptiveConduct Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 From the original post on the Team Event " Updated info 06/20/2014 40K OFCC Army lists Armies will be 2000 points and constructed from all current material available as of 8/1/2014." so weird as it may be, unless BigTal changes that statement, some of the SW supplements/dataslates will be out before the codex itself and will be considered usable while the new codex will not. Blame GW for their weird as hell marketing kick they've been on lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Yeah, that looks more like a tourney list than a "spirit of OFCC" list. In my noncaptain opinion, a team should aim for a 1, two 2s and a 3. Generally, your 1 will be a fluff bunny, and your 3 will be the big tourney player. But that's just like my opinion man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAPcom Posted July 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 So, in an attempt to make a more friendly list, here's an updated list for your consideration. Thanks again for all the input and help for someone who's never been to the event. Chapter tactics: Imperial Fists HQ Pedro Kantor Chapter master -Artificer armor, thunderhammer, shield eternal Honor Guard squad -5 man, 4 relic blades, 1 thunder hammer, banner, drop pod Elites: Sternguard -5 man, 2 combi-plasma, drop pod Sternguard -5 man, 4 combi-plasma, drop pod Troops: Tactical squad -5 man, melta, combi-melta, drop pod Tactical squad -5 man, melta, combi-melta, drop pod Tactical squad -5 man, melta, combi-melta, drop pod Tactical squad -5 man, melta, combi-melta, drop pod Heavy Support Devastator squad -4x heavy bolters Devastator squad -4x heavy bolters Devastator squad -4x Lascannon Fortification Ageis defence line w/ quad gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 My knee jerk response is still to put it at a 3. I haven't played 7th edition, so take that into consideration with what I have to say. My reasons for still rating it "hard" is largely based on the Min-Maxing of units and the cookie cutter template. I don't mean to be discouraging, just my knee jerk response. Perhaps some of the more qualified individuals can address either my concerns, showing where I am overreacting to a metagame from previous editions, OR have some good feedback on where to combine units/alter things in a way that still gets the base you are going for, but in a softer fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Yeah I've been struggling to get my pods list into shape for ofcc and I'm a captain. Try taking smallest number you can, the last list is getting there, in my opinion. Make those 5 man squads in troops, full strength with heavy weapons. Invest remaining points in toys. Most tourney lists know boyz over toys, ofcc to me is the opposite take those toys you get excited about that you ultimately learn are not as effective as they should be. Actually looked again and you do have some toys! Missed the honor guard first time. How big are the devestator squads? Maybe invest a few points for bodies there or more flyer defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAPcom Posted July 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Yeah, I'd love to field the 7 pods I've got painted up, as well as those H.B. devs that usually sit on the shelf. Unfortunately, the only flyer defence I own is a pair of stormtalons, which seem to be frowned upon, and the quad gun. As far as "min-maxing" goes, what would you suggest for someone who only has about 50 marine models at his disposal? I've always been one of those collectors who buys a squad at a time and gets it painted before buying something else, and the number of models at my disposal is a bit low compared to some people. Also should note I'm the captain for our group of OFCC newbs, so any captain-y advice would be much appreciated. :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Well if you have to have a three, it's not the worst three. Just make sure the rest of the team is lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Combine the Tactical squads take the points and buy a single talon. A talon with the aegis is decent and avoids the "dreaded" double talon. From there I think you are solid. Just be glad you aren't all in sentinels of terra like I am :). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 As far as captaincy advise make sure over your team you have different strengths, don't go with all rock type lists in the team. Your list is strong on the ground and weakest against air, make sure you have a team mate that can give a heavy flying list trouble but not crush it.stuff like that. Course teammates being what they are you might have model restrictions! Try your best trust others to do the same, roll dice, have fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAPcom Posted July 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Thanks for all the help you guys, I really appreciate the feedback. I think I've got a much better idea of what the lists should look like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Just read through this, I'd rate that list as a 3, especially in light of how well Space Marines fared at BAO. Also, one of the constant things about OFCC is that people go in there with an idea of the list ratings system and then get confused or flustered about ratings of lists that they saw at OFCC. I'm prepared for the annual, post-OFCC string of posts about how List X and List Y were mis-rated and how that made the event suck. I'll quote magnusthetraitor from a different thread on this section: The thing with ratings is that no matter what number that total strangers give you, it will not mesh with your perceptions of how you believe the list should rate based on your own experiences with the models that make up the list. Please remember that the list raters are doing the best they can, and that the ultimate goal of the OFCC is to do everything possible to ensure that every attendee has 5 great games. That's a quixotic goal if I ever heard of one, but it IS the goal. Attitude is everything at OFCC. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Also, keep in mind that at least some of the comments here are not from actual list raters but from enthusiastic amateurs. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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