Guest Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Downloading now. Anyone already have a copy? Any good? Reviews online say it's worse than civ5. I own and am a huge civ5 fan, but bad reviews do give me lower expectations, which can make worse games better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xipetotec Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 I have it and steam says I've put in 54 hours so far, but I think that probably includes me leaving it on all day or all night a couple times. Its much shorter than Civ 5. I've gotten through 3 complete games on huge maps in the time I've played. The shorter game play means it plays differently than Civ 5. I never felt bored and mostly wasn't just hitting enter over and over again so that's saying something. I think the AI is just as meh as it was in Civ 5, but at least it tries to build naval units I guess. The factions don't really feel any different, just a different bonus, no special units or anything like that. All the special units come from your affinity to the different traits. I would say that I was sorta disapointed with the number of the units in the game, there aren't many at all, but then the units you build in the beginning of the game are just as useful at the end of the game. In the end I payed full price for the game and I'm not complaining so I think that means I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Yeah, downloaded and enjoyed. Not even a complete game yet, but I'm playing without help, on very easy, and in marathon mode for my first game. Good way to learn mechanics as they relate to how I'd use them. Lots of annoying features, like changing all the symbols, but the game itself is basically the same. Took me a long while to realize that the alien caterpillar hive thing was actually a cattle equivalent - kept waiting for it to attack me, but turns out you just pen them up with your workers....In general, I think this game would be a lot better having not played civ5, not unlike my issues in 40k and having too many editions in my head. Anyway, it's better than civ5 was at release. With expansions, I think this is worse, but not too much worse. I suspect that expansions will make this one much more impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justjokin Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Playing apollo, going for a supremacy victory. Will report back when successful. I still miss Alpha Centauri. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckman Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Does this one include religions, culture, zones of influence and all that or does it harken back to the simpler days where national boundaries were a myth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xipetotec Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 No religion. It has culture and borders like Civ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 No religion. It has culture and borders like Civ 5 No religion, but the customization was clearly inspired from the civ5 religion feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 I beat won a game once on harmony and once on supremacy with the emancipation gate and enjoyed both games. Although I think I prefer the the techno over the biological. Hover tanks and robot soldiers for the win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiccus Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 I was super disappointment with this game. I had been looking forward to it for months pretty much salivating contemplating its glory. Then I played 1 game through on normal and have no desire to play it anymore. It is a pale shadow of Civ 5. Don't get me wrong, it isn't a bad game but I just feel like there is no point in picking this game up if you already have Civ 5. Civ 5 is better in absolutely every way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 I was super disappointment with this game. I had been looking forward to it for months pretty much salivating contemplating its glory. Then I played 1 game through on normal and have no desire to play it anymore. It is a pale shadow of Civ 5. Don't get me wrong, it isn't a bad game but I just feel like there is no point in picking this game up if you already have Civ 5. Civ 5 is better in absolutely every way. For now, I agree. I think with a few expansions, beyond earth will likely be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiccus Posted November 16, 2014 Report Share Posted November 16, 2014 I don't know, maybe. And if that is the case then thats super lame. It's not even immediate dlc lame but rather wait a year for a $30 expansion that will get it most of the way there and then another year or 2 for another expansion that will get you the rest of the way to it maybe being as good as Civ 5. Civ 5 at release was an amazing game. The two expansions added a ridiculous amount of cool things and made it one of the best games of all time in my opinion. Beyond Earth had so much potential and just doesn't deliver. I think how boring the factions are and how very not different the affinities seem is it's biggest problem. In Civ 5 these factions had unique personalities. In Beyond Earth they are blank and boring without any sort of cool theme to them. No unique units and no unique buildings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Hmmm...finished my first game. Took Marathon mode...yeah spent over 1000 turns on very easy difficulty, trying to take over the world. I succeeded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Civ 5 at release was an amazing game. The two expansions added a ridiculous amount of cool things and made it one of the best games of all time in my opinion. Beyond Earth had so much potential and just doesn't deliver. I think how boring the factions are and how very not different the affinities seem is it's biggest problem. In Civ 5 these factions had unique personalities. In Beyond Earth they are blank and boring without any sort of cool theme to them. No unique units and no unique buildings. Have you gone back and played Civ5 without the expansions? Not at the original release, but later, after you'd gotten used to the expansions. Did that for a bit. Much worse than I remembered it. I'd place civ5 without expansions as worse than beyond earth, but only marginally. Civ5 with expansions is much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Swiched back to Civ5 (with expansions) for a while. Much better. That said, guess they did a big patch for beyond earth. Played that again. Nothing huge I've found so far, but they do have an "auto-renew" feature for your trade routes, which makes managing that a bit more relaxing. I'm still disappointed that the terraforming tech doesn't allow you to build on water or mountains...or just change tiles into other tiles. EDIT: Patch notes: In terms of game balance, the Wonders have undergone major revisions. One of the most consistent pieces of feedback the team received was that certain Wonders were built only rarely, and players reported that some felt like marginal upgrades over other resource buildings. The Beyond Earth team took a general cost pass on all the Wonders in the game, and changed the effects of most of them. Complete notes on the changes are below. Additional gameplay balance changes were made as a result of the changes to the Wonders, but also in response to systems reported as too powerful. Trade routes in particular have undergone two important changes. First of all, trade routes are still one of the primary resource generators for a given city. Now, trade routes will be unlocked primarily through city population. Constructing a Trade Depot allows trade routes to be built and gives the city one trade route slot. Other trade routes now unlock at population thresholds. This prevents players from using small cities as massive trade hubs during the middle- and late-game. Secondly, there is now an “auto-renew route” option, as requested by many players. Friendly aliens no longer prevent citizens from working plots, much to the joy of Harmony factions, who understand that nothing tills the soil quite like Siege Worms, and that Wolf Beetles are the mascots for many Academies. The team also took the opportunity to fix bugs, adjust the AI, and add user interface changes. We’d like to thank you for your continued feedback on Beyond Earth, and we hope that you enjoy these updates. [LOCALIZATION]- Added support for Simplified Chinese [WONDERS]- General cost pass on all Wonders- Xenodrome - Provides a small positive influence to alien opinion each turn, and negative alien opinion recovers twice as quickly- Panopticon - Gives +1 unit sight and +5 anti-orbital strike range on city- Mass Driver - Gives +1 city strike range and +25% city strike damage- Gene Vault - Gives free worker to new cities- Ectogenesis Pod - Gives 1 Food per 4 pop in its city- Quantum Computer - Gives free orbital unit maintenance and +50% orbital unit duration- Drone Sphere - Gives +50% speed to worker builds and explorer expeditions- Cynosure - Gain +1 Science for every 3 population in its city- Ansible - Affinity XP is gained 25% faster- Stellar Codex - +8 Orbital Coverage range- Master Control - Free Maintenance and +1 Movement for Workers- Precog Project - Military Units can achieve two additional levels of Veterancy- Human Hive - City immune to Covert Operations- Holon Chamber - Gain Science equivalent to 10% of global Energy income each turn- Archimedes Lever - Any hostile unit within 2 tiles of the city suffers 10 attrition damage per turn- Memetwork - All Affinity Level requirements for buildings, units, and wonders reduced by 1- New Terran Myth - +2 Culture from Trade Routes- Markov Eclipse - Military Units attack at full strength even when damaged- Promethean - City no longer produces Unhealth- Nanothermite - All air, ranged, and city bombard attacks 25% stronger- Xenomalleum - +5 Titanium, Petroleum, and Geothermal resource- Xenonova - Penalties due to Unhealth reduced by 50%- Bytegeist - All Virtue Tier synergy bonuses require one less point to complete- Armasail - City suffers 50% less damage from ranged attacks- Deep Memory - +1 Culture for every 3 Population in every City- Tectonic Anvil - +5 Production from Canyons- Crawler - +25% Production for buildings and wonders- Daedelus Ladder - All City Yields +10%- Resurrection Device - Benefits from positive Health effects increased by 50% [GENERAL BALANCE]- Domination victory is now won by controlling all original player capitals including your own.- Veterancy Promotions: All combat boost promotions add +10% strength- Veterancy Promotions: All unit heal promotions starting at level 4 heal 75 hp- Veterancy Promotions: Adding level 5 and 6 unit veterancy promotions to work with Precog Project- Virtues: Replaced Applied Aesthetics virtue with Applied Metasociology virtue - City Intrigue decreases faster when an Agent is present- Virtues: Settler Clans virtue now gives +1 population in new cities- Trade Routes: Trade route slots now primarily unlocked based on city population. Trade Depot allows building trade routes and gives 1 slot, all others unlock at population thresholds- Trade Routes: Added option to auto-renew Trade Routes- Covert Ops: Lowered intrigue level required for affinity covert ops- Friendly aliens no longer prevent city citizens from working plots [uI]- Added tech filters for Units and Orbital categories- Victory progress tooltips show explicit status of quest objectives- Re-enabling yield for canyon plots (2 production, not improvable)- Added "Incoming Transmission" on main menu for in-game messaging [AI]- Fixed an issue where Victory Wonders could be built by AI in captured territory, and not be able to be interacted with- Fixed an issue that could cause the AI to not aggressively target rival planetary Wonders- Fixed an issue where non-Harmony AI players were not clearing Miasma properly- AI is now more selective about desiring alliances- AI will now form alliances to counter a strong shared neighbor. [OTHER]- Added my2K functionality to title, allowing cross-game connectivity and unlocks with other Firaxis titles (starting with Sid Meier's Starships), along with other future perks- Added Glacier map that unlocks when signing in to my2K for the first time[bUGS]- Fixed an issue where Covert Ops panel could go blank in the middle of a game, or after a coup- Fixed an issue where AI aircraft city UI was displaying in Fog of War- Fixed an issue where resource pods and relics where not placing properly on the Taigon map type- Fixed an issue with the Growth Potential quest failing when the AI would destroy a target station- Fixed an issue where an AI leader would sometimes propose an offer that they would not accept when you agreed- Fixed an issue where a player might not be able to restart a Victory wonder (like the Beacon) if a Victory wonder was attacked after the countdown had started- Fixed an issue that was causing the skeleton to not drop when a Worm was killed (still only a chance, but now works properly- Fixed an issue that was causing Xenomass under an existing alien nest to not be counted when the nest turned friendly- Fixed misc crashes as reported by Steam error reporting- Additional misc bug fixes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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