barca Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 1) Parameters:DATE: Saturday, October 29TIME: 11:00 AM - 8:00 PM in PDTLOCATION: Gabi's Olympic Cards & Comics4230 Pacific Ave SE, Lacey, Washington 985032) Army List particulars:Pts: 1500Fee: $10Period: EWTheaters/books: all theaters, all EW books:Rising Sun, Blitzkrieg, Barbarossa, Hellfire & Back, Burning Empires, and any OFFICIAL EW briefings from BF web site.Online:The Netherlands at War 1940 - http://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=3451Norwegians 1940 - http://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=41143) AGENDARounds: 3Opening at 1000; first match at 1100;Duration each rd: 2 hours + 15 minutesBreaks: 45 minute lunch and two 15 minute-breaks.Schedule (EDIT - Updated from Facebook):1000-1100 setup and registration1100-1315 first round1315-1400 lunch1400-1615 second round1615-1630 break1630-1845 third round1845-1915 awards, close out, and packing.4) Prizes: Prize support is strictly gift cards on behalf of the store based solely on the gate fee of $10.AWARDS: TBD5) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/101841723621332/6) SETUP: 10:00 AM. If bringing terrain, please arrive before 11 AM setup a table with your terrain7) LUNCH TIME SOCIAL: Koibito - Sushi & TeriyakiMarket Square, 730 Sleater Kinney Rd SE, Lacey, WA 98503http://www.sushiolympia.com/8) Missions: Will be announced before each round. One from each group: Defensive Battle (TBD) Mobile Battle (TBD) Fair Fight (Free-For-All) 9) LIST VERIFICATION: lists are to be made from official Battlefront early-war lists. Lists should be sent / e-mailed to:grognard_fow@yahoo.comfor verification by OCT 27, Thursday NLT 2100 hrs (9 PM).10) FoW FAQ: We will be using the updated late-war books/lists that come out and the latest LFTF:Lessons From the Front, Last Updated on 3 September 2015.http://www.flamesofw...romTheFront.pdf11) Bring 5 printed copies of your list to the tournament.12) Signup:Five tables means only 10 players, so get your lists in ASAPName, Avatar, Alignment, List, Book, VerifiedWASHINGTON TEAM (<team name?>):Team Captain: Bpoli7, Ben P., Allied, LEGKIY TANKOVY BATALON, Barbarossa (Digital Exclusive), verified Bill N., Noland, Axis, Jääkärikomppania, Rising Sun, verified Ed A/Centurious, Axis, German Infanterie Kompanie, Barbarossa, verified Josef M/Lord Hanaur, Axis, Japanese, 7th Army Kihei Chutai, Rising Sun, ? ZeroMoon17, Axis, Italian Bersaglieri, Hellfire and Back, verified OREGON TEAM (<team name?>):Team Captain: Steve Z, ZEKE, Allies, French Escadron de Combat, Blitzkrieg, verified Ryan M., lazarus, Allies or Axis, Companie de Tirailleurs: Foreign Legion/Colonial, Burning Empires, no James B, barca, Allies, Soviet Tankovy (Red Army), Barbarossa, verified Anthony B/?, Axis, German, Luftlandesturmkompanie, Burning Empires, verified Zach B/Zach, Axis, Italians, Battaglione Fucilieri, Barbarossa (Digital Exclusive), verified If needed, barca can loan an EW Soviet army to newbie, or someone who does not have EW army.Open to other locales (ID, CA, BC, etc.) Players from elsewhere might be assigned to either team to balance the teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barca Posted October 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 volunteers for team captains? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Steve could be team leader he loves that sort of thing. Might have two more for team Oregon with Anthony and Zachary Bowman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMoon17 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 I'm bringing Italian bersaglieri from hellfire and back. I'll send you the list shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bpoli7 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just confirming you received my list, Barca? I sent it earlier today.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noland Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 List posted: Finns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barca Posted October 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Got two lists, so far: From Noland and Bpoli7Will verify on SAT, OCT 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barca Posted October 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 I can loan someone an EW army, if they don't have one. German Mittlere Panzer, From 'Blitzkrieg' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noland Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 volunteers for team captains? What is the role of Captains? Does the loser get tar and feathered b the opposing team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurious Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 I'll be bringing a German Infanterie Kompanie from Barbarossa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barca Posted October 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Posted by Noland on a diff thread: Here is the latest. 1. We have five tables to our disposal. The store opens at 1000 and I will plan to set up the night before @2300. Right now Ed and I can cover four tables nicely. If anyone wants to step up to cover one more, the support would be appreciated. the Portland crew has volunteered to cover one, but I want to avoid using them if at all possible as they are guests and it could delay a kick off time of 1100. If the Portland people support, we will roll with it. 2. Prize support is strictly gift cards on behalf of the store based solely on the gate fee of $10. 3. Five tables means only 10 players, so get your lists in ASAP. 4. Opening at 1000; first match at 1100; 2hour 15 minute matches with a 45 minute lunch and two 15 minutes breaks. 1100-1215 match A 1215-1300 lunch 1300-1515 match B 1515-1530 break 1530-1745 match C 1745-1815 awards, close out and packing. -Der Noland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barca Posted October 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 updated main post according to "Der Noland" update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barca Posted October 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 I am picking up the trophy from taran.shannara this week. Will bring to tourny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barca Posted October 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 p.s. need criteria for the "Team Win" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMoon17 Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 What is the role of Captains? Does the loser get tar and feathered b the opposing team? My vote is that the Captains decide the matchups in some manner. I.e. 1st round 4v4 North Picks first matchup South picks next two matchups final matchup determined by remaining players 2nd round 4v4 whichever team is losing gets to choose if they want first matchup or 2nd and 3rd matchups. Just a thought. The first round matchup could be determined by a coin toss (who gets to make the first matchup vs the second two matchups) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 i will bring a french foreign legion list out of burning empire as well as a vichy legion list out of the same book. This way we can balence out for more red vs blue games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Gould Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 What is the role of Captains? For the earlier Invasions, I had the two captains get together to decide what would be the most enjoyable matchups. It minimized mismatching for lists/missions, and let players go for more fun list building. What y'all do...that's up to y'all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barca Posted October 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 3 lists verified, 1 still being checked as of 8 AM, 10/18 Need other lists soon, NLT THUR, OCT 27. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 p.s. need criteria for the "Team Win" When I created the Northwest Invasion, the parameter for a team win was simple: the team with the most points. So we simply pool the teams points and determine it from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMoon17 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Should we do most wins first then most points second? Or just straight up points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I personally don't mind doing it that way. it avoids a 6-1 victory negating other wins, so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barca Posted October 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 (EDIT) My mistake. Needed both types of competition rules - Team and Individual. For the team aspect, I will quote Dylan: "For determining who got to keep the trophy until the next Invasion, we went with straight points, as the matchups were picked to keep them likely to be close, and only announced the team totals and the single member of each team that had the highest score at the end (which we kicked in a prize for)." For the individual rankings: Count the number of games that each player has won Ties are broken in favor of the player with the most Victory Points If still a tie for that position in the rankings, then dice off (1D6) If the first round of die rolling does not resolve, each player tied for the same position rolls 2 dice (2D6). Example:Tom: 3 wins; 6-1, 6-1, 4-3; pts = 16Dick: 3 wins; 6-1, 5-2, 5-2; pts = 16Harry: 3 wins; 6-1, 5-2, 4-3; pts = 15Dan: 3 wins; 5-2, 5-2, 5-2; pts = 15In the case above, the top 4 generals each have 3 wins.On the first criteria (total wins), that is a four-way tie.When Comparing points (second criteria), Tom and Dick are tied for 1st and 2nd places.They dice off. Tom=5, Dick=6. Tom gets 2nd, Dick gets 1st place.When Comparing points (second criteria), Harry and Dan are tied for 3rd and 4th places.They dice off. Harry=4, Dan=3. Harry gets 3rd place, and Dan gets 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Gould Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Whoever is using the name Northwest Invasion for this go-around is free to run it how they like. If I wanted to restrict the name/format, I wouldn't have recommended we use it for Flames a few years back. The design document for the original Northwest Invasion was based on a few basic principles. Have fun games. Play different opponents. Encourage a feeling of community. If part of the structure didn't work towards those things, it wasn't included. One core that remained unchanged for all iterations was the job of the Captain, which worked into all three principles. For execution, I have always used index cards with various codes on them. Different opponents: the easiest of the three. Teams were determined *mostly* by geographical area, with some shifting to accommodate folks that didn't play where they lived. This was the first code to go on the cards, a pair of color stripes indicating typical play area. There was a primary and secondary code for each team, so if there was an uneven number of players on each team, players on the same team would still be playing new opponents. Folks from Fun games meant two things: matchups would not be unbalanced, and casual lists (historical or interesting as opposed to optimized for competitive play) could do fine. The Captains' job was to arrange the matchups so as to avoid blowouts due to force composition, scenario, or player experience. One corner of the index card had A/M/I to represent type of unit, a number to represent player skill, and an asterisk if the list needed careful pairings (such as having no anti-armor capability for historical reasons, or being massively anti-infantry). We first divided the cards by team, then looked at the scenario, then looked at the force composition, and shuffled the cards around until the pairings looked good. As long as both captains were prioritizing fun, it works great. Encouraging the feeling of community was the hardest to quantify. Some things were easy, such as having a group lunch. One year, we did a trivia contest during chow with semi-random teams. Another year we listed a specific set of forces, and asked each team to have one of each of them, and ran it as an event-within-an-event; this also encouraged communication within each team, as folks needed to borrow units or re-arrange their TOE to cover vacancies. Heck, just being arbitrary about the teams (geographically) helped cement the group. For determining who got to keep the trophy until the next Invasion, we went with straight points, as the matchups were picked to keep them likely to be close, and only announced the team totals and the single member of each team that had the highest score at the end (which we kicked in a prize for). Most years, the two team champs arranged for a final game at a later time for the bragging rights. Anyhoo, that's the background for previous Invasions, Northwest and elsewhere. I don't really Flames much nowadays, but I would be glad to chat with the organizers if they have questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barca Posted October 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 How did you address unequal size teams? Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMoon17 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 How did you address unequal size teams? Any suggestions? In the case of unequal teams, I can always swing for either team since I live in WA, but work in OR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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