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    Torg reacted to Ish in Koyote's Britons & other SAGA Stuff   
    Dude. You can’t just post pictures of camel toe here. This is a family friendly forum.
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    Torg reacted to Koyote in Koyote's Britons & other SAGA Stuff   
    In my Mutatawaii'a warband, the warlord will be mounted on a camel as well as a single unit of 4 hearthguard.
    As I posted earlier, I struggle to find dark age or medieval camel and rider models that are well sculpted, properly proportioned, and well casted. I've purchased camel models from Gripping Beast, Perry Miniatures, eBob  Miniatures, Irregular Miniatures, and even an Aussie company called Castaway Arts. I've looked online at what's available from Eureka Minaitures, Black Tree Design, Warlord Game, Wargames Foundry, Essex Miniatures, Alternative Armies, and others.  In my opinion, all of the models are either too small (most companies), hideous and too small (e.g. Black Tree Design and Alternative Armies), poorly proportioned and too small (e.g., Gripping Beast), and/or casted poorly.  I've come to the conclusion, that models fitting this description simply don't exist, so I am going to have to make due with what's out there.
    The camels from Irregular Miniatures are the correct size and except for their feet, are well proportioned.  The quality of the sculpts is meh and the quality of the casts ranges from poor to absolute crap.  Nevertheless, equipped with a rotary tool and greenstuff, and fueled by my peculiar form of modeling OCD, I'm confident that I can make the Irregular Miniature camels presentable.
    Below, for purposes of comparison, is shot of the Gripping Beast camel, a WIP Irregular Miniature camel (I still need to fix the defects on the legs and sculpt proper feet), and a second Irregular Miniature camel.   The sculptor of the Irregular Miniature camel added patches of long hair to the model's head, top of the hump, and to its left fore flank, but oddly enough, not on the right fore flank. The patches of hair aren't especially well sculpted and thanks to the quality of the cast, much of the detail has been lost. Rather than try to repair the lost detail, I used my rotary tool to file away the patches of hair on the body.  I then used  greenstuff to cover up the file marks, fill in holes and cracks created by the poor casting, and better portray some of the camel's musculature.
    BTW, the Irregular Miniature on the right is an example of one of the best casts I received. the tassels on the bottom of saddle blanket are deformed and mostly missing, but at least cast of the blankets are sharp enough to distinguish between the upper and lower blankets. On half of the models I received the tassels are completely gone and the two blankets look like they've melted into one blurred mess dripping down the camel's side.  I continue to be amazed that manufacturers will allow such crap casts to leave their factory (or in the case of home casters, their garage).  Personally, I'd be ashamed to charge full price for such crap casting.

     
     
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    Torg reacted to Ish in Tempting Kickstarters   
    Some cool “retro” sci-fi figures, should be great for Stargrave, Traveller, and whatever else where you need sci-fi spacemen but don’t want them too grimdark or cyberpunk.
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    Torg reacted to Ish in Koyote's Britons & other SAGA Stuff   
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    Torg reacted to Koyote in Koyote's Britons & other SAGA Stuff   
    That is excellent new indeed!
    However, I remain concerned about your immortal soul.  Are... those... wretched GW slotta bases I see beneath your most excellent Anglo-Saxon miniatures?
    No. Don't tell me.  I don't want to know. 

    I will send you proper Renedra bases along with your Koyote-ized warlords -one on foot and one mounted.
    Do you have wire spears?  The white metal spears that Saxon Miniatures (now Warlord Games) provides will never do.  If Odin requires a blood sacrifice, wire spears will stab your fingers and pierce your flesh, but at least they won't bend and droop like a flaccid levy fyrdman.
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    Torg reacted to Ish in Koyote's Britons & other SAGA Stuff   
    Okay! Enough shame from the Magical Moorish Vikings! I’ve got them out of their boxes, attached to their bases, and hit with the first primer layer.

    One point for four Hearthguard; one point for twelve Levies with Bows; and three points for 24 Warriors (divided into two units of twelve).
    I’ll need to track down an appropriate Warlord figure and figure out how I want to spend my sixth point... I’m leaning towards either keeping it simple with another point of Warriors or getting fancy and adding a point of Breton Cavalry mercenaries. 
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    Torg reacted to Ish in Koyote's Britons & other SAGA Stuff   
    It’s called the “Pile of Shame” for a reason. I kind of figure my afterlife will be spent, like Sisyphus, ever toiling away at a task that will never be finished... with the Erinyes swooping in every so often to spill my paint pots and ruin the points of my brushes.

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    Torg reacted to Koyote in Koyote's Britons & other SAGA Stuff   
    Unpainted I can understand, but unassembled????
    You'll never get into Valhalla with an unassembled warband. 

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    Torg reacted to Ish in Koyote's Britons & other SAGA Stuff   
    They’re all literally sitting in a box unassembled and unpainted. 
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    Torg reacted to Koyote in Koyote's Britons & other SAGA Stuff   
    What do you mean by “ hide”? Aside from flyers, in SAGA, units block LOS to other units, regardless of the units’ model type or size. As such, infantry units block LOS to cavalry models (also elephants, creatures, and monsters).
    Do you use a big base for your warlord or a stand infantry base?  Also, are your Anglo Saxons mounted on square or round bases?
    Lastly, has your warlord expressed any interest in joining Marjorie Taylor Greene’s proposed Anglo-Saxon caucus? 
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    Torg reacted to Koyote in Koyote's Britons & other SAGA Stuff   
    I finished assembling my Muslim themed baggage and objective markers.  All that's left to do is to add texture to the bases, primer, and paint.
    As I posted earlier, these baggage and objective markers are designed to be use in conjunction with one another for the Ambush scenario, or independently of one another.
    The first baggage marker depicts a procession of drummers. The drums on the camel will be gold plated ceremonial drums with sacred significance to the Almoravid.  
    The objective marker depicts one of the sacred drums and a dead drummer.  The casualty model used for this model is beardless, so I used GS to add a short beard, similar to that of the camel mounted drummer.

     
    The second baggage marker depicts two Christian monks/priests and their captor, a Muslim warrior.  All three have paused to look at the remains of a long dead warrior.  
    On the objective marker we see that the captor has been slain, and the remaining monk/priest is begging for mercy or giving a heartfelt thanks to his rescuers.  You can't see it from this angle, but I've added a conical helm to the top of the casualty's head to match the helm worn by the model on the baggage marker.
    These models need more work. I plan to add chains to the monks/priests to more clearly indicate that they are prisoners.

     
    The third baggage marker depicts a parade of armed warrior imams.  Their leader is holding aloft two relics, a small golden urn and a gold bound text.  
    The objective marker depicts a slain imam.  The relics lie beside his corpse.  A vulture has swooped in a for a quick snack.
    I used GS to add a forked beard and a band around the casualty model's forehead to match the headdress worn by the imam on the baggage marker.

     
     
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    Torg reacted to Koyote in Koyote's Britons & other SAGA Stuff   
    In the most recent episode of the Saga Thorsday podcast, Rodge and Monty voiced their desire to include in the 2022 Adepticon Saga tournament, scenarios that include baggage and/or objective markers.  This is great news, because one of the highlights of Saga tournaments is seeing all the wonderful warbands on display.  And for me, seeing each player's take on their particular warband's baggage/objective markers really adds to their warband's display.
    Both Rodge and Monty are quite keen on including the Ambush scenario (see Book of Battles) into the 2022 tournament scenario lineup.  In this scenario, 3 baggage markers move across the center line of the table.  On Turn 1, the opposing warbands enter from their warband's long edge.  If a baggage marker is destroyed, it is transformed into an objective marker.  It's a Survival Point scenario in which players earn points by holding objective markers at the end of the scenario.
    Transforming of baggage markers into objective markers gave me an idea.  I am going to link my baggage and objective markers together, so when I remove a particular baggage marker, it will be replaced by a particular objective marker.  To do this, each baggage marker will include a prize carried by non-combatants or guards. The corresponding objective marker will include that prize and the body of one of its guardians.  Both the baggage and objective makers will be generic enough that they can be utilized on their own, without the need to use them paired together.
    I will use Wargames Foundry's Arab Casualty set to make the slain guardians.

    Below are my first two mock ups of baggage markers and accompanying objective markers.  I don't have the casualty models yet, so I am using a stand-in model.
    The first baggage marker is procession of Imams, with their leader holding up a holy text that is bound in a gold, gem encrusted book cover.  
    The objective marker will depict a slain Imam lying next to the sacred text.

     
    The second baggage marker is procession of drummers.  The drums mounted on the camel will be sacred, Golden Drums of [insert suitably impressive name here].
    The objective marker will depict a slain drummer lying next to one of the golden drums.
    I don't have a spare camel drum lying around, so I made a simple mold using Instant Mold, stuffed it with greenstuff, and the next morning, voila!  



     
    The third baggage-objective set will include a prisoner.  I don't yet have the models, but they are on order.
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    Torg reacted to Koyote in Koyote's Britons & other SAGA Stuff   
    I finished the 4-pack of Warriors that will, depending upon my build and the scenario, hang in the back and generate an extra SAGA die. Since they may spend much of the game just standing around, I figure they might as well look like the belong in the rear of the warband's formation -hence the flag, drums, and aged champion.

     
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    Torg reacted to Koyote in Koyote's Britons & other SAGA Stuff   
    In general, when playing skirmish games I prefer round bases to square.  Also, I do not like to mix rounds with square (or rectangular) bases in the same warband.  
    In Saga, for both aesthetic and game play reason, I prefer to mount cavalry models on pill shaped bases rather than large rounds or oval bases.  As for the latter, the one exception I've made is mounting my Age of Magic forest goblin spider riders on 40mm rounds.  For the spider riders, the rounds best fit the shape of the spider models' overall footprint.
    In the past I've used 50 mm and 60 mm rounds to make Baggage (vignette) models.  Rounds are ill suited for models that have a long, roughly rectangular footprint like a wagon and draft animals.  Years ago, when I assembled the wagon from Gripping Beasts' Baggage kit, I mounted it on a homemade pill shaped base that I constructed by attaching a Renedra rectangular base to two pieces of Renedra rounds.  


    The DIY Renedra pill base turned out okay, but a couple of years later when it was time to base a Victrix Gaul chariot, I needed another pill shaped base.  This time, instead of piecing together bits of Renedra bases, I made my own pill shaped base by cutting it out of a large, wooden circular base made by Litko.  

    My Muslim warband's Baggage models will be a bit more traditional than the story-themed Baggage/vignette models I made for my Briton and Pagan Rus warbands.  Since I dearly love camels each will include at least one camel accompanied by some men on foot.  In my mind, the layout of each camel procession should fit nicely on pill shaped base, so it's time to crank out a few more wooden pill shaped bases.
    According to the Book of Battles, a Baggage model's base must be no smaller than 40 mm x 40 mm, and no larger than a 100 mm x 50 mm rectangle.  The pill shaped bases I have in mind measure 3 inches x 2 inches (roughly 75 mm x 50 mm), so it meets the requirements.
    I begin with a Litko 3 inch (1.5 mm thick) wooden base.  Using a pencil and ruler I drew a center line.  Next I added two parallel lines, each 1 inch from the center line. .  

    Then I sketched 4 curves to give each end a nice rounded shape. Then used a hobby saw to cut along the two parallel lines in order to remove the semicircle pieces of each side.

    Finally, I used a hobby knife and sand paper to round the corners that were created by cutting away the semicircles.

    Below is a mock-up of my first Baggage model for my Muslim warbands.  In keeping with the Almoravid drum theme, this first Baggage model will be my drum section. The camel is made by Perry Miniatures. The foot models are Gripping Beast. The plastic drums and arms come from the Perry Miniatures' Afghan Tribesmen kit.
    The base is a bit crowded, so I'll likely evict the horn blower and use the extra space on the base to add some interesting terrain features.

     
     
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    Torg reacted to Koyote in Koyote's Britons & other SAGA Stuff   
    I typically buy greenstuff from my local game store, Dark Tower Games, which carries Army Painter branded greenstuff.  I’ve also purchased it online. I haven’t noticed much of a difference between manufacturers.
     
    I use Apoxie Sculpt for larger scale work, such as work on bases and terrain. It’s characteristics make it a poor medium for doing proper sculpting and converting (detail work), but it’s much cheaper than Greenstuff, so it helps your hobby dollars go further when working on large scale projects.


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    Torg reacted to Koyote in Koyote's Britons & other SAGA Stuff   
    I finished the last four mounted Hearthguard.  Below are all 8 Hearthguard together.
    The lights that I normally use to photograph minis interacts with the blue paint on my Moors to produce photos in which the blues possess a violet hue that you don't see when you look at the models in person, under normal lighting conditions.  I tried to correct this by using different lighting.  The result is better than the earlier photos, but it's still not quite right.

     
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