CaptainA

I recently saw these bugs, which might give me a basis to try to work from.

Workin on it. Hence the, "more details coming soon."

Guardian Cup VII – May 31st-June 1st Tournament Organizer: Aaron Albert (Captain A) captainaka@hotmail.com What: 40k, ‘LVO Style’ 2 day, bracketed tournament. Part of the LVO Circuit! 6 Rounds (3 per day), using ‘LVO’ Missions. 40 Players 1850 Points Escalation, Stronghold Assault, Dataslates, Formations, Digital Codexes will be allowed with the following restrictions: 2 Codex Limit – each codex, ally, dataslates, formation, and escalation you choose counts as one of your “codex” choices. Escalation - no ranged weapons with D allowed. No non-Escalation FW. 550 points cap on Escalation units. Stronghold Assault - no defense networks (multi forts) or void shields. We will be using the LVO Open FAQ with the 2+ nerf (if you have a reroll of a 2+, the best you can have is a 4+ on the next roll.) No Forge World. When: May 31st and June 1st Check-in time is 10:00 AM Guarantee your spot by paying in advance for your ticket $35.00, non-refundable. Why: Play 40 and drink beer, win The Guardian Cup, your overall bracket, or other trophies for Sportsmanship, Painting, and Achievements Where: Guardian Games 345 SE Taylor Portland OR, 97214 503-238-4000 Note: Guardian Cup will be using Torrent of Fire, get your smart phones and iPads ready. Night Fighting and Reserve rules (p124) are in play for all rounds. ‘Mysterious’ objective rules should be used. 'Mysterious' terrain should NOT be used. DAY ONE, ROUND ONE : 10:15 to 1:15 DAY ONE, LUNCH: 1:15 to 2:00 DAY ONE, ROUND TWO : 2:00 to 5:00 DAY ONE, ROUND THREE: 5:15 to 8:15 END OF DAY ONE: Brackets Generated. DAY TWO, ROUND FOUR : 10:15 to 1:15 DAY ONE, LUNCH: 1:15 to 2:00 Display your Armies along with a copy of your list which includes your name. Take your time to check out the armies, then fill out your favorite armies voting sheet. DAY TWO, ROUND FIVE : 2:00 to 5:00 DAY TWO, ROUND SIX : 5:15 to 8:15 AWARDS CEREMONY: 8:30 Caveat: Before anyone gets in a tiff and starts to complain about what is and what is not being allowed, please know that this was an intense and thoughtful decision. I love this game and have been part of the community for years now. I am not getting paid to run this event (and it is pretty much on my birthday May 30th) nor am I getting anything. I am running this event because I love the game and love the store that I call home. This should be a great time to come together and play 6 games of 40k without drama or headaches. We all know that Games Workshop is moving at a pace that is quite fast and difficult to keep up with. I have been talking with other TO’s and this is pretty much the direction that they are going as well. No matter what I do, I will not make everyone happy and I understand that. Please keep things civil and if you want to discuss this with me directly, feel free to email me at captainaka@hotmail.com. Guardian Cup Tournament Format Guidelines 1,850pts 40K Tournament Format Every scenario has a total of 10 possible points. Whoever has the most points, wins. Equal points is a tie. There are no degrees of victory, winning by 1 point or 10 is counted the same. The tournament is W/L/D format, with accumulated points used to determine standings within a given final bracket. For example, if you end the event with a 4-3 record, you will be ranked within that bracket according to how many battle points you accumulated throughout the event. The official scoring is 1,000pts for a win, 500pts for a tie and then accumulated points within the game. So, a player with a 4-3 record who accumulated 7 points in each of his 7 games would end with a final score of (4,049points). We score it this way so that the W/L/D record trumps accumulated points, but points earned throughout the tournament matter in determining your precise ranking in the event. Pairings are Swiss style, based on strength of schedule. Scenarios Each scenario is built using two book missions played simultaneously with all 3 book bonus points. Each mission is distinct, for example, Heavy Support units in Big Guns Never Tire can not take the Relic. Winning one mission earns that player its points. If a mission is tied, neither player earns the points. Any bonus points earned via Warlord traits, etc. apply to the primary mission only. For example, if your Warlord becomes a scoring unit, that will only apply to the primary mission. In the Scouring, each player places 2 objectives in their opponent’s deployment zone and 1 outside of either player’s deployment zone following normal objective placement rules (6 total on the board for the Scouring). Each player has a 1, 2, and 3 point objective, which are revealed just before the role to seize the initiative as normal. You will end up with 2 objectives in no man’s land, and 2 in each deployment zone. Destroying fast attack choices counts for points to this mission. In Big Guns Never Tire, each player places 2 objectives, one in their own deployment zone, the other in their opponent’s following normal objective placement rules (4 total for this objective on the table). You will end up with 2 in each deployment zone. Destroying Heavy Support choices counts for points to this mission. Book bonus points are added to the total, not to each mission. For example, if you win the Primary mission, lose the Secondary Mission, and get First Blood, Slay the Warlord, but not Linebreaker, you would have scored 6 points total (4 for primary, 0 for secondary and 2 of the 3 book bonus points for 6 total). You will have a score sheet for each scenario that makes tallying the points very straightforward. All Fortifications are allowed. If you are placing a large Fortification that would displace a piece of terrain already on the board, simply remove it. Mysterious objectives are used. Mysterious Terrain is not used. If you roll your Warlord trait out of the BRB, you roll once and choose any trait with that number. If rolling out of a codex, generate the trait as normal. Scenario 1: Emperor’s Will (4pts) and Crusade (3pts): Dawn of War Deployment. There are always 3 Crusade Objectives placed outside of either player’s deployment zone. Emperor’s Will objectives are placed in each player’s own deployment zone. Scenario 2: The Scouring (4pts) and Purge the Alien (3pts): Hammer and Anvil Deployment. There are always 6 objectives for The Scouring, 2 of which must always go outside either player’s deployment zone. See scenario guidelines. Scenario 3: The Relic (4pts) and Big Guns Never Tire (3pts): Vanguard Strike Deployment. There are always 4 objectives for Big Guns Never Tire. See scenario guidelines. Scenario 4: Crusade (4pts) and Emperor’s Will (3pts): Dawn of War Deployment. There are always 3 Crusade Objectives placed outside of either player’s deployment zone. Emperor’s Will objectives are placed in each player’s own deployment zone. Scenario 5: Purge the Alien (4pts) and The Scouring (3pts): Vanguard Strike Deployment. There are always 6 objectives for The Scouring, 2 of which must always go outside either player’s deployment zone. See scenario guidelines. Scenario 6: Big Guns Never Tire (4pts) and The Relic (3pts): Hammer and Anvil Deployment. There are always 4 objectives for Big Guns Never Tire. See scenario guidelines. Scenario 7: Emperor’s Will (4pts) and Crusade (3pts): Dawn of War Deployment. There are always 3 Crusade Objectives placed outside of either player’s deployment zone. Emperor’s Will objectives are placed in each player’s own deployment zone. General Guidelines Mission Order of Operations Roll for Warlord Traits and generate Psychic powers. Each player rolls 1D6, chooses any of the three Warlord Traits with that number for their trait. If rolling from a codex Warlord Table, roll for the power as normal. Roll for Night Fighting. Roll for Sides. The player rolling highest chooses their deployment zone (but does not yet deploy their army, as normal) and deploys any Fortifications. The player going second then does the same. Place objectives, with the player that chose their deployment zone first, placing the first objective. This can be any objective. The Relic automatically goes in the middle and is placed before any other objectives. Roll for first turn as normal, following book guidelines for deploying forces, reserves, Seize the Imitative, etc. Allowed Armies Escalation, Stronghold Assault, Dataslates, Formations, Digital Codexes will be allowed with the following restrictions:2 Codex Limit – each codex, ally, dataslates, formation, and escalation you choose counts as one of your “codex” choices. Escalation - no ranged weapons with D allowed. No non-Escalation FW. 550 points cap on Escalation units. Stronghold Assault - no defense networks (multi forts) or void shields. All current Codices, and White Dwarf armies will be allowed. Allies per the Rule Book will be allowed. No Forge World. Rules Judgments Rules issues will be dealt with swiftly by a roaming judge. We use a hierarchy for determining rules issues as follows: Main Rule Book FAQs and Erratas IGTC FAQ Consensus of judges present at the time. Please note, that these judgments are final. We are da law!!! Painting While there is no painting requirement, the only prize you can win except raffle prizes is best general if you do not have a minimum of 3 colors. We count primer as a color. No basing requirement. Painting is judged by your peers in a “best of” category selection. Comp and Sports There will be no comp scores at this event. We feel that the game has an inbuilt comp system with the rulebooks and Codices. We do not feel that a second, player created level of comp is necessary. So bring whatever army you want to play! Sportsmanship will be handled as a simple thumbs-up, thumbs-down check box on the results sheet. The temptation to ding someone on sports after a tough loss is often too much for many players to resist. We therefore are providing a very narrowly defined set of terms under which a player may mark their opponent with a thumbs down mark on sportsmanship. This system is intended to punish those who are being abusive, but to not allow chimpmunking. After a great deal of real world use, we have found this system to work very well. Legitimate reasons to give an opponent a thumbs down on sports: Your opponent was 15 or more minutes late to the round. Your opponent was verbally abusive. This does not mean you argued with your opponent or that your personalities clashed, but that they were verbally abusive and insulting. Your opponent intentionally cheated. Be prepared to support your case to a judge. Your opponent slow played. We define slow playing as not completing 4 game turns of play. In the case of 20 or less minutes left to play, divide the time remaining between players to complete one full GAME turn. Time each other during this period to ensure that each player has an equal amount of time to complete a full game turn. If one player does not finish within their limit, the other player can force them to stop and then begin their turn. This mechanic is in place to ensure no one is slow played out of a turn of play. What does NOT constitute a thumbs down on sports? You argued over rules with your opponent. Your opponent beat you. You didn’t like your opponent’s army. Your opponent thinks the Black Lion never should have been the head of Voltron. The Green Lion was way cooler. NERD RAGE!!! A negative mark on sportsmanship will be met with administrative action as follows: First thumbs down: A verbal warning from a judge, up to reversing a win to a loss. Second thumbs down: Reversing a win to a loss, up to disqualification from any prize support. Third thumbs down: disqualification from any prize support, up to expulsion from the event with no refund of the ticket price. Fourth thumbs down: Expulsion from the event with no refund of the ticket price. WYSIWYG All models are expected to be WYSIWYG as much as is reasonable. Proxies are not permitted. Counts As armies with counts as allies will only be permitted if they represent a clearly concerted effort to build a unique army around an obvious theme. For example, an Adeptus Mechanicus army using extensive kit bashing and conversions will be fine. If you go this route, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A HANDOUT TO SHOW YOUR OPPONENT THAT SHOWS WHAT EACH UNIT IN YOUR ARMY IS ALONG WITH ITS STATS AND PERTENANT RULES! You must also present this to them prior to the game so that they have time to understand what they are playing against. There will be no exceptions to this. If your army uses only a single Codex but if for example you have Crimson Fists models using the Blood Angels Codex, or Chaos models using the Space Wolves Codex, that is acceptable. Allies for this type of army however, MUST be represented by their actual models. This is to avoid confusion. No exceptions. If you have any questions about your army, ask us prior to the event so that we can let you know if what you have will be acceptable or not. Modeling for Advantage There is a fine line between creative freedom and modeling for advantage. We do not wish to stifle anyone’s creativity, but in the end, this is a game that relies heavily upon the physical characteristics of the models being used. Modeling for advantage will be handled on a case by case basis. To resolve a possible abusive situation, follow these steps: Ask the player to play the model as if it were a GW standard, modern version. Call a judge to ask for a judgment. Possibly substitute the model with an appropriate replacement. Examples of what we consider modeling for advantage: Using out of date and inappropriately sized models such as the rogue trader era Eldar Avatar (which currently is a large, monstrous creature model but back then, was the size of a Space Marine, which would now grant huge advantages due to being so much smaller) or Gorka Morka Trukks (which are less than half the size of modern versions). If an army is made predominantly of Rogue Trader era minis (or any era) and is clearly going for a theme, then exceptions will be made. If it appears to a judge that the player is in fact modeling for advantage, then action will be taken. Increasing or decreasing the size of models to gain an advantage in gaining or granting cover. Custom Battle Wagons often fall into this category. Altering a model to increase the range of a model or to benefit your LOS. Terrain Terrain will be prearranged and laid out by the TO’s prior to the event. We will not be using terrain placement rules per the book as it is too time restrictive. If you come to a table and feel that it is not sufficiently or fairly arranged, or that it may have been moved by the previous players, alert a TO who will arrange the terrain appropriately. Hills: All hills are open terrain, granting cover via LOS blocking/interference as normal. Barriers: All barriers grant cover per the book and are not considered to be Aegis Defense lines unless they were purchased and placed by a player. Buildings/ruins: All buildings and ruins are assumed to have a ladder or other means for moving up and down. Rules in the Rule Book will be used for Ruins and Buildings. Rock Towers, Crates, and Can Towers: Are impassible and block LOS completely (even if there are actual gaps in the terrain pieces). All other terrain functions as outlined in the book. What to Bring Your Army Tape Measure, Dice, Game Aids, etc. 3 Objective Markers on 25mm bases, 2 Objective Markers on 40mm bases. 8 Typed Copies of your army list. Be sure to include write how many Kill Points each of your units is worth on your list for ease of reference. All pertinent rules for your army. Codecis, White Dwarf Articles, etc. If you are using a counts as army, YOU MUST HAVE YOUR PLAYER HANDOUT FOR YOUR OPPONENT IDENTIFYING WHAT EACH UNIT IN YOUR ARMY IS, NO EXCEPTIONS!! You don’t need to have one for every player, just one for the judges, and one to show each opponent. A Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles beer coozy. That would just own!

Guardian Cup is at the end of may. I hear there are a couple more in may as well.

Looks great. Love the walls!

So one thing I love about the OFCC is that is pushes me to something new army wise each time. Last year was my Beastnesh goat themeed slanesh army which I was quite proud of. This year I i have bugs in my pants. I've been batting around some different color schemes and think I have settled upon one for my gribblies. Don't know if the name will change, but the fluff is a bit silly and works right now. The concept is a group of Tyranids that live in the void of space and rather then ride inside Space Hulks, they climb upon them and surf them from space ship, to space station, to mining asteroid in the vast reaches of space. Their carapaces have morphed to camouflage with stars and patterns of space taking their enemies by surprise when the launch off their hulks to float upon their unsuspecting space prey to penetrate their defenses and wreck havoc upon the counltess space structures of the grimdark future. Right now I'm in the modelling stage, putting lots of things together. Don't know if the models will be as unique as my beastnes, but I'm hoping to improve that with the paint scheme.

Looks hawt! Has a very ED209 feel to it which I approve!

I heard the GW army builder does NOT allow multiple relics/artifacts. Grain of salt.

Welcome to the hobby! The great thing about 40k is that there are so many ways to go about this and it is totally up to you. The cool thing about Dark Vengeance is that you get a lot for your dough. You get a playable starter army and the mini rulebook which is awesome. I don't think that the army you get though is going to be highly competitive, so keep that in mind. You can get somehwere in the range of $40-60 for the Chaos stuff in there, or you could try to trade for another Dark Angles contents. You might also look for some army deals on ebay as you can find deals on larger lots. In my experience, the better stuff in that DA set are the bikes and tac squads. Terminators are cool and fun, but with the prevalence of AP2 and rending weaponry, thy usually don't have what it takes to last. You might also consider running the DA stuff as a custom Space Marine chapter - The Angelborn or something and use the rules from the Space Marine Codex. Things I like from IG - Manticores, Vendettas, IG Blobs, Hellhounds, Griffons, Colossus

Right now with what you have, you have a lot of army types you can play. You can go Crowe and Purifier as troop route. You can go Draigo and play a Draigowing route. Use the purifiers as strike squads and spam razorbacks. Stormraven would be very good to add. If it were me I'd do that first and try a couple of lists with what you have. I've been playing a Purifier list as of late that isn't optimal but it has been fun and has some punch.

Maybe the new FAQ will contain a new codex!

I hear what you are saying here Fluges, but the problem for me is that soooooo many people are playing Tau, Eldar, and TaudarEldarau that if you don't have something or someway to counter those armies besides hide, take the punishment, and rush to objectives, that seems pretty unfun to me.

I've done multiple transactions with Hoard O Bits. Always a good time.

What's the purpose of the naked libby? HQ Tax? Don't see it synergizing much with the army. I'd suggest the typical Chapter Master with all the fixins for counter assault, Chapter Master, Bike, Power fist or thunderhammer, Shield Eternal, auspex. I'd probably also go with skyhammers on both talons. Makes them versatile against most any opponent.

I played a guy at league last night who was testing/having fun with a super horde tyranids list. 2k Double Force org 3 Tyranid Primes 20 Devilgaunts 20 Termagaunts x4 20 hormagaunts x2 4 warriors 3 warriors 2 single unit venomthropes Exocrine Harpy Crone So like 180 models or something like that. I was running my tourny SM/Tau White Scars Chapter master - Fixins 5 Bikes - 2 grav Attack bike w/MM X2 squads 5 Bikes - 2 Flamers 1 combi flamer Legion of the damned - MM/PG/combi plas 2 Stormtalons with skyhammer missles 3 Centurions Lascannons and Missle launchers omniscope Thunderfire cannon 3 HB Attack Bikes Tau Commander - Fixins 10 Kroot w/Kroothound X2 Skyshield 180 models was daunting for sure. I wasn't really worried about his bigger things as I have a lot of ignore cover stuff in my army. Exocrine was dead turn 2. Crone died turn 2 (I went second) Harpy died turn 4. I was more worried about fending off the massive horde of little guys. By the end we called it at his top of 5. i had first blood, warlord, linebreaker and while he had his objective. I would have at least contested it and have shot off alot of stuff at the end. Things I learned (and I have a pretty big tyranids list on the shelf so I'm trying to figure out what direction i want to go if any.) Primes in brood blocks are very surviveable, but don't do all that much damage. He never really had to worry about synapse, but all the points of synapse he had didn't kill much or synergize much with the army. Not sold on primes much. See maybe with carnies or maybe one to gaunt hop for synapse, but not much more than that. I wish they were cheaper and had been like heralds for a 4 or 3 to one hq choice. Swarms take for freakin evah to move and run! One round I went to the bathroom, took my time, and he was still moving his guys. Pretty funny. Individual crones and harpies are going to just get shot down. It was an interesting game for sure, but I'm still sad about nids. Had a pretty cool paint scheme in mind and don't know if i want to apply things yet. I like a chance against eldar and tau and other armies.... Like most things in 6th, you need a combo to take something from good to great, so I'm trying to see those combos and hope others who are better at list building see those combos for me. :)

Stronghold Ass....ault is dead to me...

Venomthrope in a bastion...

Enable book powers and allies with self.

My biggest question with this dex, is how is or will it be able to handle Tau/Eldar/Taudar? I can see a first turn situation where you will be able to be on them turn two, but if they are going first, I don't necessarily see a good outcome in most games for Tyranids against those forces. Any thoughts and ideas?

Want the motor pool.

You are probably also going to make more if you break it up into smaller lots. Squads of like models are best IMO. Most people don't have the hundreds lying around to pick up that whole army.

Me me.

I've been using maxmini energy guns.