Yeah, sorry Jim, can't make it. The real issue for me is that I live way up in the mountains, where the roads have tons of wicked curves, and I don't feel safe driving late at night, when I'm tired and the slush has had time to freeze into ice. You'd think it'd be no problem with my Jeep, but the reality is that Jeep's are very light, and 4 wheel drive doesn't mean poop when all four wheels are on a sheet of ice. I don't like those conditions when there's light and I'm alert, when it's dark and I'm coming down off a gaming buzz, it's just a recipe for driving into a ditch. Or off a cliff. Into a river. A freezing cold river.