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Oh, yeah, sorry. I completely forget to check in on here since Infinity hasn't been happening at Ordo

I've still been wanting to play. I just haven't checked in much here with everything going on and inconsistent Sunday games from the looks of it.

In case anyone was out of the loop, somehow. Hopefully we can all get together again soon. Also, you know, bring this subforum back to life a bit. https://downloads.corvusbelli.com/infinity/rules/infinity-rules-en.pdf https://assets.infinitythegame.net/downloads/annexn4/en/v1.0/annexn4.pdf https://infinitytheuniverse.com/army/infinity

I'm so very very tempted to be making my way to the club to play but, man, I'm being cautious with the current... health issues going around. It's hard. Especially living with people who are more at risk as well as having a fairly high risk occupation, I don't feel right taking the risk spreading things or contracting something.

No problem. And, I mean, again, you're free to proxy. As long as you're clear what loadout it has, no one really cares that the weapon isn't 100% accurate.

@MexicanNinja 1) If you like the Nomads aesthetic, you can certainly still buy them. You are free to proxy things as much as you'd like so you can get your feet wet just calling your Nomad models Yu Jing or PanOceania, etc. so you can learn the rules. The fundamentals rules don't change from army to army. One thing that's super nice about Infinity is that proxy-ing is officially supported in the rules and you really can't model for advantage. 2) There's an official army builder. A webapp as well as mobile app for Android and Apple. The phone apps, when everything first launched last week, were a little less buggy but they all work. Just as a 'warning' they'll likely start you in metric (because Spanish company) for movement and distances, there's an option to switch it over to inches.

Aawww, they got rid of the S5 on the Blue Wolf. That's unfortunate but makes the most sense. The two medium infantry characters are probably too expensive. The all-arounders they make that try to do everything almost always end up overcosted. Jing Qo might end up okay because she duos with the Shaolin monk which brings the price per order down to 22 points. Suddenly not too bad. For Mehmut, having the high CC + Monofilament is probably what brings his cost on the higher end. He might be worth it but it's tough when Tian Gou are wildcard and can bring a jammer to a link.

At a certain @Raindog 's request, I'm giving my initial thoughts on White Banner. Disclaimer: I don't really know Yu Jing and my evaluations will be colored by playing lots of Tohaa, Spiral, and Shas. So feel free to yell at me as to how I'm wrong. 🙂 LI: Zhanshi - Standard line infantry. Core. Everyone knows them. Mech-Engineer - Standard Engineer. Why do they not have a name in Chinese like the... Zhanshi Yisheng - Standard Doctor. Tian-Gou - Elite LI. Pricey, but comes with tricks. 1st section - Linkable wild card, up to 1. Special weapons. Big take away here is official, non-spec-ops rules linkable Jammer. You also won't see it coming due to Holoprojector 1. Good for protecting close range things from your lieutenant / link. 2st Section - Holoprojector 2 but not linkable. Gain madtraps. Deployment zone guards. Also 😆 '2st' Warcors - Warcors are warcors MI: Hundun - Feels like an awkward spot due to lack of hidden deployment that it should get in N4. The HRL + X visor is probably the winner here given price, which will certainly be a lot scarier once it does have hidden deployment. Adil Mehmut - 1.5 wound pseudo HI Wildcard character. No shock immunity is sad. Specialist Op or CoC, with sensor in a link is good. Combo of Monofilament CCW and then an electric pulse is interesting. He's kind of a bit of everything but you're paying for it. Jing Qo - Another 1.5 wound pseudo HI character with Frenzy. Can duo with a shaolin. Another close-mid range specialist that is kind of an all arounder like Adil Mehmut. Climbing plus is nice and being able to link the monk is really nice to bring the cost per order down. Lei Gong - No changes as far as I can see from what you can get in vanilla and Invincibles. Solid alpha-strike albedo piece or can be a specialist with CoC. Tiger Soldiers - Mimetism, BS13, AD is nice. Why would you ever bring the lieutenant version? Ye Mao - Yu Jing wanted their own copy of the Rhodoks but with an extra something on top. MI with super-jump, MSV-1, mimetism across the board. Built-in Haris but no core. Should be interesting, but it is kind of pricey because you're putting that MSV onto everyone. HI: Qing Gao - Fatality L1 HMG HI character. Can be Lieutenant L2. Wildcard without being called wildcard. Nothing super fancy but does his job as a HI beatstick. Daofei - Camo infiltrating HI for murdering people. Do you need to say more? Jujak - 6-2 HI with lots and lots of fire that can join the Shang Ji fireteam. Could certainly be hard to dig out of the midfield once he's hunkered down. Shang Ji - Standard HI with extra light flamethrowers. Core, Haris, Duo, Wildcard with a couple of profiles with tactical awareness. Very similar to a Mobile Brigada. TAG: Blue Wolf - Sweet Jesus I need this TAG in my life. S5 TAG with Full Auto L1, AP Spitfire, Heavy Flamethrower, and Glue cannon. You can't even lock it up in close combat because it's CC23. Again, S5. I need it. I can't think of a profile I've more wanted to try. Guija - Your baseline TAG. Special in that it isn't special compared to literally every other TAG. REMs: Yaofang Long Ya - The only remote worth talking about because everything else is extremely familiar Yu Jing. Camo, Forward Deploying remote with mines, double panzerfaust, and SMG or Heavy Shotgun. Seems really good for protecting your deployment zone and mid-field. Even if it's only BS11, no one REALLY wants to face two panzerfaust shots. The most obvious camo marker in the world though but I don't think that matters. SK: Guilang - Take a standard camo infiltrator and add MSV 1 and WIP 14. Solid. Kunai Solutions Mercenary Ninja - Uh... basically a ninja but only long range profiles and no specialist? Gives up Infiltration for Climbing Plus but otherwise still BS11, TO, and good close combat (22 instead of 23 that the regular ninja has). It kind of feels bad that they have the merc ninja and not the actual ninja. WB: Liang Kai - Reminds me of Musashi in that he's a close combat monster that has to walk across the board. But, he actually has the tools to get there with mimetism, super jump, assault, forward deployment and linkability. Counts as a Shaolin so can be linked with Jing Qo. He might not link with smoke, but he's in a faction / sectorial with super cheap smoke. Shaolin Monks - Your super cheap, irregular, extreme impetuous close combat guys with smoke. Too lazy to check but I think they're the cheapest smoke? Classically combos with the Rui Shi

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So Infinity is broken up in Portland. There is Infinity on Thursdays at Glimpses and, for Ordo, games on Sunday. There's a few other places but I don't personally know their times very well. Unless you're into fluff, like collecting them, or maybe if you learn better by having the physical book you can read them, you don't need to buy them. Rules are available 100% free online on their wiki. http://infinitythewiki.com/en/Main_Page Materials wise, if you got Wildfire it should have all the templates you need. Only other thing you'll need is a tape measure which, if you've played 40k, I'm pretty sure you have. Otherwise, expectations, just know that Infinity is a complicated game. It will take time to learn. The very basics should be simple (turn structure, face-to-face mechanics) but as long as you are willing to stick to it then you'll do just fine. Oh, and one thing since you're coming from 40k. The mentality for Infinity list building is very different. There generally isn't a 'Meta' list. You can't spam the one unit that is flavor of the month and expect to win a game of Infinity. There is a relatively popular saying in the Infinity community in that "It's not your list, it's you." The game and units are all very well balanced, so it's all about getting that experience under you belt and learning what your play style is. There is no magic bullet for suddenly winning. It's also why you don't really see net lists like you do for 40k.

Hey, since no one posted anything and I was told to pick a mission last week anyway. I was thinking Acquisition, 300 points, 12 point spec ops. Anyone have any other ideas? Or just go do your own thing. Up to you folks.

It's a super hero landing with Red Hood. It would have worked fine with one gun so that the free hand can actually be on the ground. But instead it's two stick arms. And yes, they said some profiles are being squatted. The most likely are the ones that have been discontinued. Acon and Merovingia are, fluff wise, been stated as rebuilding. Tohaa were started as being 'endangered' in the video. The non-Spiral Tohaa are the most likely to be squatted out. They didn't sell well / generally imp unpopular. But, we'll see.

Welp. I'm waiting for vanilla Tohaa to get squatted.

Unfortunately, I won't be making it. We're having an early Christmas. Hope you folks have fun!

Also interested in trying the RPG if a group gets going.