Dusldorf Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 hour ago, pretre said: Bronson has confirmed 1500. Here's my tentative list: Spearhead 1 St C&2G - 250 5 Ret with 4 HB and SB - 89 5 Ret with 4 HB and SB - 89 5 Ret with 4 HB and SB - 89 6 Seraphim with 2 HB, Chainsword - 90 6 Seraphim with 2 HB, Chainsword - 90 Imagifer - 40 Imagifer - 40 Vanguard Canoness -45 40 Conscripts - 120 Ministorum Priest with Chainsword/BP- 35 Commissar with Chainsword/BP - 31 Imagifer - 40 5 Doms with 4 Melta, Chainsword - 118 Immolator with SB - 107 5 Doms with 4 Melta, Chainsword - 118 Immolator with SB - 107 1498 Thoughts? What are the "2 HB" in your seraphim units? Only glaring thing I would try to change is how the list is organized into detachments. You are very close to having a third one to get an extra command point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, Dusldorf said: What are the "2 HB" in your seraphim units? Only glaring thing I would try to change is how the list is organized into detachments. You are very close to having a third one to get an extra command point. Hand Flamers. That was a typo. Let me see if I can get it to three, I think the restriction at this point is HQs. I'd have to move something to an HQ, maybe Lord Commissar from Commissar? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, pretre said: Hand Flamers. That was a typo. Let me see if I can get it to three, I think the restriction at this point is HQs. I'd have to move something to an HQ, maybe Lord Commissar from Commissar? Gotcha. Yes I think that is the smallest change you can do for another hq. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Spearhead 1 Canoness -45 5 Ret with 4 HB and SB - 89 5 Ret with 4 HB and SB - 89 5 Ret with 4 HB and SB - 89 Vanguard Lord Commissar with PW/BP - 55 40 Conscripts - 120 Ministorum Priest with Chainsword/BP- 35 Imagifer - 40 Imagifer - 40 Imagifer - 40 Outrider St C&2G - 250 5 Seraphim with 2 HF, Chainsword - 79 5 Seraphim with 2 HF, Chainsword - 79 5 Doms with 4 Melta, Chainsword - 118 Immolator with SB - 107 5 Doms with 4 Melta, Chainsword - 118 Immolator with SB - 107 1500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Dropped 2 Seraphim to upgrade Comm to LC. Umm. Let's see a PW and BP. Have to be my hereticus inquisitor model and Redeemer gets switched to a Priest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Good catch, btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, pretre said: Good catch, btw. Cheers. Only other thing I would consider now, if you want, would be to drop some more upgrades for a platoon commander so you can order the blob (assuming conscripts can take orders...I forget). Then the last thing on my list would be finding points for demolition charges on the Lord commissar and platoon commander if possible...at 5 points they are a steal, and have the potential to make a bigger difference in certain circumstances than all those storm bolters, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Demo charge isn't on the melee/ranged weapons list for Platoon Commander or Commissar. 20 points for a Platoon Commander. Hmm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 So, I could drop 5 Storm Bolters to get a Platoon Commander, but I don't know that one order is going to be worth that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, pretre said: So, I could drop 5 Storm Bolters to get a Platoon Commander, but I don't know that one order is going to be worth that. There's a lot of utility in orders now. For your list, combined with the priest, the "fix bayonets" order seems especially invaluable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dusldorf said: There's a lot of utility in orders now. For your list, combined with the priest, the "fix bayonets" order seems invaluable. Yeah, but it feels like I'm dumping a lot of points into conscripts with all those characters. I've got 120 pts in conscripts, 55 for a LC, 35 for a ministorum priest and now 20 more for a PC. Is it really going to be worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, pretre said: Yeah, but it feels like I'm dumping a lot of points into conscripts with all those characters. I've got 120 pts in conscripts, 55 for a LC, 35 for a ministorum priest and now 20 more for a PC. Is it really going to be worth it? Only way to find out is to test it. But imo the character investment makes the blob a higher target priority. And if your opponent is shooting your blob, you're winning. If they choose to ignore it, the platoon commander makes it even more devastating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 True. The problem with trying it is I only get one go. Chances of many test games between now and then are low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 9 minutes ago, pretre said: True. The problem with trying it is I only get one go. Chances of many test games between now and then are low. Well, don't do it if you aren't comfortable. My last bid for the PC is just to suggest that you really will get mileage out of it, whether in terms of movement, shooting, or cc. The main advantage I see out of it compared to 5 storm bolters is the versatility. Force multipliers tend to work wonders when you have so many models to take advantage of them, and that goes for the LC and priest as much as the PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Yeah, fair enough. I'll noodle it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Oh shoot, I need to find another point. PC have a chainsword so 21 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 14 minutes ago, pretre said: Oh shoot, I need to find another point. PC have a chainsword so 21 points. Can the LC's sword be swapped for something cheaper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 No, all the power weapons are 4 points and Chainsword isn't on the list of AM Melee Weapons to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, pretre said: No, all the power weapons are 4 points and Chainsword isn't on the list of AM Melee Weapons to buy. Could drop a Gemini and take another imagifier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, Dusldorf said: Could drop a Gemini and take another imagifier. Heeeelll no. I would drop a conscript if I want the PC that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, pretre said: Heeeelll no. I would drop a conscript if I want the PC that bad. Ah right, for some reason I was thinking of conscripts as min 40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Minimum 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, pretre said: Minimum 20. I guess you found your solution then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Yeah, still noodling whether to do it, but I could do it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Btw, I am looking at the leaked PDFs for Astra Militarum and chainswords are on the melee weapons list, plus demo charges are on the ranged weapons list. Where does it say LC and PC can't take these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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