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Finally decided to make this army, been in my head for a long while. Got the original idea from the random chapter creation tables in the Fantasy Flight Deathwatch RPG.

The idea is that the chapter has a dysfunctional Catalepsean Node, which causes them to go to into deep sleep at random times (narcolepsy). The sleep is similar to stasis, so they effectively have a longer lifespan (though they often die while asleep due to outside influences). So, mid-battle, they might just go to sleep for 10-100 years. They tend to get mistaken for statues and are forgotten, hence the chapter name.

Chapter is a Dark Angels Successor and a loyalist chapter, led by Interrogator-Chaplain Romanus. Chapter is often found working alongside Ordo Hereticus and the Sisters of Silence.

Paint Scheme is a Dark Grey. That said, models will have visible rust and plants growing off them, representing years asleep. All marines will be helmeted. Chapter logo will be like the DA winged sword, but with bat wings instead of feathered.

Army will not include any flying models, save a single Caestus Assault Ram (which rams whenever the pilot nods off the sleep) and any automated flying vehicles (like drop pods).

 

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There is not a single rule anywhere, written by anyone saying that your Blood Angel's have to be painted the exact shade of red that GW paints them in. Or even that you have to paint them red. You can

Check out the "Stonecast Eternals" for a cool, similar look.

Skrag Brown is a fantastic rust colour. It's not specifically intended for it, but it's the first thing I reach for when I'm doing rust effects.

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Anywho, picked up some DW terminators. That kit is amazing. That said, I kinda feel GW outdid themselves with that kit. I can't imagine GW being able to sell any DW characters with that kit out, as it's just an amazing kit with lots and lots of kitbash potential.

I do need to peek at Index 1 when I'm at WOW today. Gotta compare options with the ones in the DA codex. Annoying, battlescribe doesn't typically mention which options are codex and which are index, so I'm unclear which things are errors and which things I have access to. Found a few errors already, but mostly minor stuff.

I have been tinkering with list building options. That Caestus Ram AND fielding terminators AND a dreadpod AND a dread AND Karamazov AND sisters of silence is quite a balancing act. I'm thinking I may have to either field a very bare quantity of command points, or plan to include the 3 factions only in a 3k army.

Another option is that I could just field the Sisters of Silence models as INQ acolytes. Kinda bugs me, but also appeals as getting INQ acolytes would otherwise require conversion and they do look like Ordo Hereticus Acolytes (and I already own the sisters of silence models).

I am thinking I'm going to steer my army towards the leadership penalty angle. DA seem to be really well equipped for that, and INQ further boost it.

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Just now, Ish said:

Cypher and the Fallen have the “Imperium” keyword, so yes, they can be fielded together.

Just sorta figured they'd have some special rule that prevented it.

Was thinking that Cypher would be a particularly obnoxious one to bring in that Week 5 escalation game...

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4 hours ago, paxmiles said:

Just sorta figured they'd have some special rule that prevented it.

Was thinking that Cypher would be a particularly obnoxious one to bring in that Week 5 escalation game...

Honestly aren't the fallen just the dark angels on the wrong side of that argument? Who knows who knows what? There are a lot of administrative mistakes and blind spots...

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3 hours ago, VonVilkee said:

Honestly aren't the fallen just the dark angels on the wrong side of that argument? Who knows who knows what? There are a lot of administrative mistakes and blind spots...

DA have several units that get bonuses against fallen. There's even a stratagem where pick an enemy model pregame as a model that might know more about the fallen, so we try extra hard to "capture" them.

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Borrowing INDEX 1 from WOW to compare it with the DA codex. The main thing is that the DA codex has lower power levels for almost all of their TDA characters, and, coincidentally, the codex TDA characters usually lack storm-shield access. Battlescribe, of course, doesn't note the distinction.

Still can't figure out where battlescribe is getting rules for stormshields on the Tartaros Terminators. Even if it's an index thing, DA don't have index access to Tartaros terminators in the index, they only gained them in the codex.

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Won't be fully painted or fully assembled, but I'm thinking I may bring this (v) for escalation league this tuesday.


++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Dark Angels) [87 PL, 1500pts] ++

+ HQ +

Interrogator-Chaplain in Terminator Armor [6 PL, 110pts]: Storm shield

+ Elites +

Deathwing Tartaros Terminator Squad [24 PL, 374pts]
. Tartaros Sergeant: Combi-bolter, Power sword
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Chainfist, Reaper autocannon
. Tartaros Terminator: Power fist, Reaper autocannon
. Tartaros Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Tartaros Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist

Deathwing Terminators [25 PL, 410pts]: Watcher in the Dark
. Deathwing Sergeant: Storm Bolter & Power Sword
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator: Plasma cannon, Power fist
. Deathwing Terminator: Plasma cannon, Power fist
. Deathwing Terminator: Power fist, Storm bolter

Redemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 156pts]: Macro Plasma Incinerator, Onslaught Gatling Cannon
. Storm Bolters: 2x Storm bolter

+ Flyer +

Caestus Assault Ram [16 PL, 370pts]: Twin magna-melta

+ Dedicated Transport +

Lucius Pattern Dreadnought Drop Pod [6 PL, 80pts]

++ Total: [87 PL, 1500pts] ++

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Current target list is looking like:


++ Vanguard Detachment (Imperium - Sisters of Silence) [9 PL, 150pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP

+ Elites +

Prosecutors [3 PL, 50pts]: 4x Sister of Silence, Sister Superior

Prosecutors [3 PL, 50pts]: 4x Sister of Silence, Sister Superior

Prosecutors [3 PL, 50pts]: 4x Sister of Silence, Sister Superior

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Dark Angels) [98 PL, 4CP, 1674pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [1CP]

+ HQ +

Chaplain Venerable Dreadnought [11 PL, 164pts]: Huntsman
. Melee weapon: Dreadnought combat weapon, Storm bolter
. Melee weapon: Dreadnought combat weapon, Storm bolter
. Warlord: Codex: Dark Angels

Interrogator-Chaplain in Terminator Armor [6 PL, 110pts]: Shroud of Heroes, Storm shield

+ Elites +

Deathwing Tartaros Terminator Squad [24 PL, 374pts]
. Tartaros Sergeant: Combi-bolter, Power sword
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Power fist, Reaper autocannon
. Tartaros Terminator: Power fist, Reaper autocannon

Deathwing Terminators [25 PL, 410pts]: Watcher in the Dark
. Deathwing Sergeant: Storm Bolter & Power Sword
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator: Plasma cannon, Power fist
. Deathwing Terminator: Plasma cannon, Power fist
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator: Power fist, Storm bolter

Redemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 166pts]: Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator, Onslaught Gatling Cannon
. Fragstorm Grenade Launchers: 2x Fragstorm Grenade Launcher

+ Flyer +

Caestus Assault Ram [16 PL, 370pts]: Twin magna-melta

+ Dedicated Transport +

Lucius Pattern Dreadnought Drop Pod [6 PL, 80pts]

++ Auxiliary Support Detachment -1CP (Imperium - Inquisition) [8 PL, -1CP, 150pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Inquisitor Karamazov [8 PL, 150pts]

++ Total: [115 PL, 3CP, 1974pts] ++

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2 hours ago, paxmiles said:

For those that can't tell grey is painted on, they aren't bare plastic.

Thank you for that. I really thought they were plastic and greenstuff at first, and was kind of confused, because I couldn't see what the greenstuff was doing that a regular shoulder pad wouldn't. Makes much more sense now.

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Since not everything is built yet. For today's escalation:


++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Dark Angels) [59 PL, 969pts] ++

+ HQ +

Interrogator-Chaplain in Terminator Armor [6 PL, 110pts]: Storm shield

+ Elites +

Deathwing Apothecary [4 PL, 75pts]

Deathwing Tartaros Terminator Squad [24 PL, 374pts]
. Tartaros Sergeant: Combi-bolter, Power sword
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Power fist, Reaper autocannon
. Tartaros Terminator: Power fist, Reaper autocannon

Deathwing Terminators [25 PL, 410pts]: Watcher in the Dark
. Deathwing Sergeant: Storm Bolter & Power Sword
. Deathwing Terminator: Plasma cannon, Power fist
. Deathwing Terminator: Plasma cannon, Power fist
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator: Power fist, Storm bolter

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Dark Angels) [35 PL, 530pts] ++

+ HQ +

Master [5 PL, 77pts]: Chainsword, Master-crafted boltgun

+ Elites +

Aggressor Squad [6 PL, 111pts]: 2x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant, Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher

Company Veterans [8 PL, 114pts]
. Space Marine Veteran: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun
. Space Marine Veteran: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun
. Space Marine Veteran: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun
. Space Marine Veteran: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun
. Veteran Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

Company Veterans [8 PL, 114pts]
. Space Marine Veteran: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun
. Space Marine Veteran: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun
. Space Marine Veteran: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun
. Space Marine Veteran: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun
. Veteran Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

Company Veterans [8 PL, 114pts]
. Space Marine Veteran: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun
. Space Marine Veteran: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun
. Space Marine Veteran: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun
. Space Marine Veteran: Bolt pistol, Plasma gun
. Veteran Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

++ Total: [94 PL, 1499pts] ++

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Got the GW vines kit. They are hard to work with. They aren't GW plastic as you'd expect, but instead are a rubbery plastic that flexes a bit, but also breaks if flexed at too sharp corners. Not so much an issue for large things, as they are probably intended to be used, but on man-sized things, like having the vines "grow" around my terminators, I've had difficulties. Might have to settle for very limited applications of the vines.

As I type,  thinking I could look into heating them up, so see if that helps or just turns them to goop.... 

So far, paint scheme is grey and green, as pictured above. Mostly grey, just minor sections in green. I plan to add one more color for things like chapter logos or squad markings, and maybe a color for eyes, but that's really it. Then just weathering effects, like exposed metal, rust, and life growing off the marines.

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++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Dark Angels) [75 PL, 4CP, 1336pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [1CP]

+ HQ +

Interrogator-Chaplain in Terminator Armor [6 PL, 110pts]: Shroud of Heroes, Storm shield
. Warlord: Fury of the Lion

+ Elites +

Deathwing Apothecary [4 PL, 77pts]: Storm bolter

Deathwing Tartaros Terminator Squad [24 PL, 374pts]
. Tartaros Sergeant: Combi-bolter, Power sword
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Tartaros Terminator: Power fist, Reaper autocannon
. Tartaros Terminator: Power fist, Reaper autocannon

Deathwing Terminators [25 PL, 405pts]
. Deathwing Sergeant: Storm Bolter & Power Sword
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Deathwing Terminator: Power fist, Storm bolter
. Deathwing Terminator: Plasma cannon, Power fist
. Deathwing Terminator: Plasma cannon, Power fist

+ Flyer +

Caestus Assault Ram [16 PL, 370pts]: Twin magna-melta

++ Vanguard Detachment (Imperium - Sisters of Silence) [12 PL, 160pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP

+ Elites +

Prosecutors [3 PL, 50pts]: 4x Sister of Silence, Sister Superior

Prosecutors [3 PL, 50pts]: 4x Sister of Silence, Sister Superior

Prosecutors [6 PL, 60pts]: 5x Sister of Silence, Sister Superior

++ Total: [87 PL, 4CP, 1496pts] ++

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2 hours ago, paxmiles said:

Got the GW vines kit. They are hard to work with. They aren't GW plastic as you'd expect, but instead are a rubbery plastic that flexes a bit, but also breaks if flexed at too sharp corners. Not so much an issue for large things, as they are probably intended to be used, but on man-sized things, like having the vines "grow" around my terminators, I've had difficulties. Might have to settle for very limited applications of the vines.

As I type,  thinking I could look into heating them up, so see if that helps or just turns them to goop....

I was able to wrap them around my Thorns of the Briar Queen without too much trouble. Just had to go slow and make sure that each bend was solidly in place before moving on to the next one.

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