Brother Glacius Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 So I haven't seen rules on how intervening units affect targeting. Do units screen anymore? Or is it as long as you can draw LOS from shooter to target, you can fire? Do intervening models create cover? I've been poking around the net for a solid answer but so far only found opinions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Trainer Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 Not really, 8th edition simplified it. Nothing, if you can see it you can shoot it. some people are still confused by 7th. Only help is area terrain (any piece as long as 100% in the terrain), it offers bonus +1 to your saving throw. There's special terrain piece rules too, but most of those are ignored. The only one that seems to be open for debate is vehicle obscured, but there no page number showing a rule for that in the BRB that I can see. Page 248 goes into more details. But the obscured rule appears to be infantry only. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Glacius Posted July 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 Okay, so it really is model eye point of view for targeting. However, it is on a model per model basis. So it is quite possible that in your unit of 10 CSM, only 7 can draw LOS to the target unit. However, there seem to be no restriction on split fire now right? so as long as those three could find another target in range, they could fire at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Trainer Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Brother Glacius said: Okay, so it really is model eye point of view for targeting. However, it is on a model per model basis. So it is quite possible that in your unit of 10 CSM, only 7 can draw LOS to the target unit. However, there seem to be no restriction on split fire now right? so as long as those three could find another target in range, they could fire at that. Correct, if only 7 can see the target, then 3 cannot shoot that target. Nothing prevents those 3 from shooting a target THEY can see separately at the same time. I LOVE split fire! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Brother Glacius said: So I haven't seen rules on how intervening units affect targeting. Do units screen anymore? Or is it as long as you can draw LOS from shooter to target, you can fire? Do intervening models create cover? I've been poking around the net for a solid answer but so far only found opinions. Intervening models are all or nothing line of sight blockers. And line of sight, in this edition, is any part of the model to any other part of the target model (no more aiming from the eyes or down the barrel of the gun). With regards to terrain rules, as written, UNITs that are "on or within" terrain benefit from cover. Certain Terrain types (like ruins) and certain models (like lords of war) have additional rules which require a % concealment "from the view of the firing model." In this case, technically, intervening models may grant cover in the respect that they count towards the % concealment from the view of the firing model - only technically, as the terrain is still the source of the cover, not the intervening models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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