scottshoemaker Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Sideboard rumors: http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/05/major-changes-to-40k-coming-sideboards.html#more Which I have to say I really like. It gives my the option to put some flexibility in my army and for a "blind" type of game, like a pickup game or a tourny gives my the option to have a broader toolkit. Rather than trying to figure out an all comers list and getting steamrolled two players can have hard counters for each other. As a casual player I want the option of having more models as options anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. Bigglesworth Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Sideboard are great in smaller game. In a game like this where a 20% sideboard on a 2k army could mean almost a hundred extra models in the extreme. That is a lot to tote. It also means longer delays in starting games. I'm really curious about this update. I really like the idea of percentage foc, but I see compatibility issues with formations, and allies. foc could use a revisit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Good lord I hope not. Glad someone got that out of the way. I was thinking the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottshoemaker Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Sideboard are great in smaller game. In a game like this where a 20% sideboard on a 2k army could mean almost a hundred extra models in the extreme. That is a lot to tote. It also means longer delays in starting games. I'm really curious about this update. I really like the idea of percentage foc, but I see compatibility issues with formations, and allies. foc could use a revisit. For those of us that prefer smaller games (1500 thereabouts) it's not a big deal, plus it's still up to the player if they want to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBF Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 So what I want to know is can sideboards sweep attack it they are heavy supports . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 So what I want to know is can sideboards sweep attack it they are heavy supports . No, only if they're Fast Attack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgosaurusrex Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 No, only if they're Fast Attack This is true, although I don't know why you would want your Fast Attack sideboard to make a sweep attack. A broom is much more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 40kradio said percentages are false. When debating between 40kradio and Natfka, it's a no brainer. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBF Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Agreed pretre. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. Bigglesworth Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 For those of us that prefer smaller games (1500 thereabouts) it's not a big deal, plus it's still up to the player if they want to use it. That is true with any subsequent rule set, but core mechanics, means they will become a norm at one point. It is not a fair point unless you are an isolated game group or garage player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I am sure that this will be an apology edition in some ways. They have to make it look good and a complete project so Hasbro doesn't have another "4E" incident on its hands when they buy GW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottshoemaker Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 That is true with any subsequent rule set, but core mechanics, means they will become a norm at one point. It is not a fair point unless you are an isolated game group or garage player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I am sure that this will be an apology edition in some ways. They have to make it look good and a complete project so Hasbro doesn't have another "4E" incident on its hands when they buy GW. Umm. What color is the sky in your world? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombking Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 Umm. What color is the sky in your world? Happy wonderful fucshia! Or something. I think I ate too many of those mushrooms. I have been wondering if they have been moving to be gobbled up by a bigger overall presence. The pricing of the models has always been an issue way back to Rogue Trader days and on the whole I still feel you get a good deal for the kits they put out. The shift to hardcover only and subsequent pricing of for the rulebooks however has really made me consider things as for a long while I have been lucky to get in a gaming day every one or two months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBeadle Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I was just about to offer you a room, then I realized that you said Everett and not Portland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I was just about to offer you a room, then I realized that you said Everett and not Portland. You also posted in this thread and not the other! :D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrizic Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I was just about to offer you a room, then I realized that you said Everett and not Portland. makes my day, ty James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Umm. What color is the sky in your world? Blue. Yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyork Posted May 4, 2014 Report Share Posted May 4, 2014 It strikes me that one of the best potential changes to make would be an overhaul and expansion of the Missions. More of them, with more variety, and more reflective of the new paradigms of modern codexes. I don't think there's been a WD battle report in over a year that uses an unmodified book mission, and most were just made up by the participants. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted May 4, 2014 Report Share Posted May 4, 2014 Alter of War missions are pretty good. I think they need to address that in the main rule book. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 4, 2014 Report Share Posted May 4, 2014 Frankly I think with 18 ways the missions can be set up, plus the virtually infinite variation of terrain/objectives and lists that the game is pretty varied already. Made up on the spot missions are fun for forging the narrative or whatever, but not that awesome for having a compact and solid rules set. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted May 4, 2014 Report Share Posted May 4, 2014 Frankly I think with 18 ways the missions can be set up, plus the virtually infinite variation of terrain/objectives and lists that the game is pretty varied already. Made up on the spot missions are fun for forging the narrative or whatever, but not that awesome for having a compact and solid rules set. I put no inherent value in the rules being "compact", given that the book by and large becomes a reference manual once you understand the game itself. But whjat I was referring to is that they just need to remind players IN the main Rulebook of the rule in the Rules supplment regarding Alter of War missions. I wasn't suggesting they add them directly. Just that they codify it in the main rule book. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 I was referring to JO. AltAr of War Missions are fine, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 Well... some of them are okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 Yeah, Relic certainly needs a few tweaks and first blood really puts an emphasis on alpha strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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