deadwing34 Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Pretty big news. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/15/old-world-new-warhammer/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Bout damn time. I like Age of Sigmar mechanically, I even like most of the new factions, but the setting has never appealed to me. If all GW does is simply slapping the original Warhammer world lore on top of the AoS rules, I’ll be more than happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewgeddon Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 This was not the announcement I was expecting, lol. Sounds like it's a long was off, but I'm both excited and cautious of what this will mean (for me anyway). On one hand, I looooved 8th edition fantasy, and was sad to see the Old World go. On the other had, I feel like AoS was the best thing to happen to rank-and-flank gaming, because we got the 9th Age out of it, which fixes a lot of issues I had with WHFB. I guess we'll have to see how the rules look when they come up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 I thought WHFB 8th Edition was the best edition of any I’d played (which spans 4th through 8th). It needed some tweaking to buff heavy cavalry and to dial back the potency of spellcasters... But it was just about ideal for what it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savion47 Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 I am very curious to see what this eventually becomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewgeddon Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ish said: I thought WHFB 8th Edition was the best edition of any I’d played (which spans 4th through 8th). It needed some tweaking to buff heavy cavalry and to dial back the potency of spellcasters... But it was just about ideal for what it was. I only played 8th edition, but I did love it. I do miss the old world, but I do not miss seeing people 6 dice "I win" spells (as an Ogre player, I always had to worry that a Purple Sun / Pit of Shades was going to lose me the game in 1 magic phase), and I don't miss how bad the army book creep was. BUT, if I was to bet money I would think that these "Old World" rules will have in common with AoS than WHFB, as far as game mechanics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Trainer Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 25 minutes ago, Ish said: I thought WHFB 8th Edition was the best edition of any I’d played (which spans 4th through 8th). It needed some tweaking to buff heavy cavalry and to dial back the potency of spellcasters... But it was just about ideal for what it was. Don't neuter my Dark Elf Sorceress! I CURSE YOU!! 🤣 I have to admit, as a MINOR WHFB player who really mostly played 40k, i'm intrigued that my Dark Elf army might see use again!!! AOS, never played, especially since the dark elves dissolved into weird side factions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 I wonder how long until GW starts sending Cease and Desist notices to The 9th Age, Kings of War, and the like.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewgeddon Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, paxmiles said: I wonder how long until GW starts sending Cease and Desist notices to The 9th Age, Kings of War, and the like.... They had already sent something to that effect to 9th Age, but it has been resolved with some modifications to the 9th Age rules and lore (one of the reasons for splitting up Chaos into 8 gods instead of 4), so won't be an issue going forward. 4 minutes ago, Dark Trainer said: I have to admit, as a MINOR WHFB player who really mostly played 40k, i'm intrigued that my Dark Elf army might see use again!!! AOS, never played, especially since the dark elves dissolved into weird side factions. I mean, I know a cool rank-and-flank game that will let you play your elves today instead of in 3 years...😎😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarlessllama Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, paxmiles said: I wonder how long until GW starts sending Cease and Desist notices to The 9th Age, Kings of War, and the like.... Kings of War was around at the same time as WFB, and 9th Age uses different names for everything to avoid IP violations. So they'll served them right after McDonald's wins a case against Burger King for having similar food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Andrewgeddon said: I mean, I know a cool rank-and-flank game that will let you play your elves today instead of in 3 years...😎😁 Yeah, it’s called Saga: Age of Magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Nah, I'm just being cynical. I don't really think it will be an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewgeddon Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ish said: Yeah, it’s called Saga: Age of Magic. I thought AoM used round bases? Or does it ranks / flanks / fixed vision and movement and I'm thinking of something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Yeah, it’s not like Games Workshop has never been known to file frivolous litigation in an overzealous attempt to defend their IP against things that are in no reasonable way a challenge to their property rights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Andrewgeddon said: I thought AoM used round bases? Or does it ranks / flanks / fixed vision and movement and I'm thinking of something else? I’m mostly just throwing some shade at the “competition” on behalf of my favorite wargame (that I never get to play). Saga doesn’t actually care about the shape of the bases, rounds or squares are acceptable. It’s not really a “rank and flank” game in the way WHFB/T9A/KoW are since most units don’t actually need to move or fight in squares (although Scots, Anglo-Saxons, and Crusaders often will due to their rules). But it’s also completely miniature brand agnostic, so all those old WHFB armies sitting on peoples shelves could be used for Saga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewgeddon Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Ish said: I’m mostly just throwing some shade at the “competition” on behalf of my favorite wargame (that I never get to play). Saga doesn’t actually care about the shape of the bases, rounds or squares are acceptable. It’s not really a “rank and flank” game in the way WHFB/T9A/KoW are since most units don’t actually need to move or fight in squares (although Scots, Anglo-Saxons, and Crusaders often will due to their rules). But it’s also completely miniature brand agnostic, so all those old WHFB armies sitting on peoples shelves could be used for Saga. Got it! Well, 9th Age also lets you use any miniatures you want, so my original comment stands! I mean, without true "ranks-and-flanks," how am I supposed to spend hours adjusting points to make sure my 6x5 movement tray has exactly 30 models in it??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Andrewgeddon said: Got it! Well, 9th Age also lets you use any miniatures you want, so my original comment stands! I mean, without true "ranks-and-flanks," how am I supposed to spend hours adjusting points to make sure my 6x5 movement tray has exactly 30 models in it??? My god, it drove me nuts when GW would create unit points values that weren’t multiples of five. ”@&$% it! I want a 2,000 point army, not a 1,996 point army... But if I add a musician to this unit, it’s gonna be 2,001 points. @$&#%€£¥!!!” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 I call it now, FW is getting control of it, and will be producing updated models for the factions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingolfen Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Please bring back Bretonnia... please bring back Bretonnia... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, fingolfen said: Please bring back Bretonnia... please bring back Bretonnia... From your lips to the Lady of the Lake’s ears. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Andrewgeddon said: Well, 9th Age also lets you use any miniatures you want, so my original comment stands! I mean, without true "ranks-and-flanks," how am I supposed to spend hours adjusting points to make sure my 6x5 movement tray has exactly 30 models in it??? Of course, for truly epic "rank and flank" gameplay, we should all switch over to something like 6 mm scale. You can fit about 5-6 infantrymen on a 25 x 25 mm sized base... and they cost pennies. The above army costs about $30 There's over 2200 infantry above. It would cost about $200. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeninator Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Hubba Hubba 😍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 There was a Saga: Age of Vikings blog a few years back that did up two whole Saga armies -- Normans and Anglo-Saxons, IIRC -- using 6 mm figures. Played the game exactly as normally written, but with six 6 mm infantry figures on each base instead of one 32 mm figure. I think he used four cavalry figures to a base, but it might have just been three. Anyhow, playing the game exactly as normal these "micro units" just counted as one dude in the rules, so a unit of twelve spearmen (per the rules) was actually 72 men on the table. Looked freaking fantastic! I've been telling myself I should order a 6 mm Saracen army and a 6 mm Crusader army and due up a proper Saga: Age of Crusades version of the same idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewgeddon Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 42 minutes ago, Ish said: Of course, for truly epic "rank and flank" gameplay, we should all switch over to something like 6 mm scale. You can fit about 5-6 infantrymen on a 25 x 25 mm sized base... and they cost pennies. The above army costs about $30 There's over 2200 infantry above. It would cost about $200. There's a pretty big community that does "minihammer," using 9th Age / KoW / WHFB but playing it at half the size (10mm). I keep telling myself I'm going to get into it, but I have yet to pull the trigger.https://www.the-ninth-age.com/community/index.php?thread/23978-minihammer-10mm-portable-adventures-in-the-ninth-age/&pageNo=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burk Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 7th ed or bust 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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