JMGraham Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 The draft of the tournament info for the Fantasy tournament is below. Thoughts? Opinions? Ideas? Red text items are issues that need further discussion. The Bellingham Warhamsters Present: 'Ham Slamwich 2014 What: A 1-day Warhammer Fantasy tournament, and a qualifier for the NW Masters When: Saturday 11/22/14, 10am check-in Where: Dark Tower Games, 1431 Railroad Ave, Bellingham, WA Size: 2500 points Participants: We’re limiting this to 30 participants For those of you who have been to Warhamster events before, you know what to expect. For those that haven't, we aim to create a relaxed, inclusive environment where being a good general doesn't mean you have to throw sportsmanship out the window. Leave any win at all cost attitude at home, and come prepared to play hard and have fun. Next door to a pub, plenty of good food and drink in easy walking distance. The schedule has been specifically structured to allow for plenty of time to eat, drink, and socialize. How to Register: Send $20 via Paypal to bellinghamwarhamsters@gmail.com . When you send your payment, please indicate the following information:Player name Club name (so we can avoid matching up folks from the same club for the first round) Preferred email address Phone Number The army book you plan on using (if you end up changing your mind and switching armies, no worries Pay a Warhamster in person (providing the above information on a sheet of paper to be passed along to Joey or Jim with the payment) An updated list of paid participants (and likely army) will be kept here: [include url link] Army Selection: 2500 points Army lists must be submitted to the TOs 3 weeks prior to the event. Players who fail to do so will not be eligible for prize draws and may be dropped from the tournament. We’ll send a reminder e-mail out to folks before lists are due. The armies allowed are those from any of the currently published GW Army books and Chaos Dwarves' The Legion of Azgorh from Tamurkhan: The Throne of Chaos. Any other Forge World based army lists or units may not be used on the event. Special or Named Characters are not allowed Folding Fortress is not allowed Closed army lists – So you do not have to disclose magic items, big names, virtues, bloodline powers etc (i.e. character non mundane equipment) before the game. All unit upgrades should be disclosed clearly before the game. Magic users must have their lore choice noted on their army list entry. This event is using the Swedish Composition System. A link to the most recent version of the Swedish Composition System can be found here.: http://swfbr.ipbhost...?showtopic=4494 All armies must have a Swedish Comp Score of 5 or higher. First round pairings will be done on the basis of Comp Scores. For each match, the difference in Comp Scores (multiplied by 100) will be awarded to the player with the highest Comp Score as bonus VPs. For example, in a game where an 8 army is matched against a 10 army, the player of the 10 army will begin the match with 200 VPs Games: The tournament will consist of three 2.5 hour rounds. Scenarios will be posted 1 month in advance of the tournament. All scenarios will use [THE STANDARD DEPLOYMENT THINGEE] At the end of each round players will calculate victory points (page 143). The players then use the following table to determine the Battle Points received by each player. VP Diff Win Loss 0-150 10 10 151 - 300 11 9 301 – 450 12 8 451 – 600 13 7 601 - 750 14 6 751 - 900 15 5 901 – 1050 16 4 1051 - 1200 17 3 1201 - 1350 18 2 1351 - 1500 19 1 1500+ 20 0 For each match, the difference in Comp Scores (multiplied by 100) will be awarded to the player with the highest Comp Score as bonus VPs. For example, in a game where an 8 army is matched against a 10 army, the player of the 10 army will begin the match with 200 VPs. [Half points will be awarded for enemy units reduced to half or less strength. Units that are fleeing at the end of the game will award half points. Characters and single-model units will only award points if they are completely destroyed.] Prizes and Scoring All participants will receive a prize-pack of swag, including a special resin terrain piece (that will be used as an objective marker in one of the scenarios) along with other assorted goodies. Several pieces of resin terrain from Worldsmith Industries will be randomly raffled to participants not winning another prize. $50 gift certificates for Dark Tower Games will be awarded for:Best Overall (determined by best average rank across all three categories, tie-breaker is Battle Points) Best General (determined by highest Battle Points, tie-breaker is Sportsmanship) Best Sportsman (determined by opponent-rated questions and votes for favorite opponent; tie-breaker is Battle Points) Best Painting (determined by player vote, tie-breaker is judging by the TOs Best Overall will receive an additional something special. From Forge World. There will be some other special prizes for some very special people. Because special people deserve special things. Also, surprises are nice. Schedule 10:00 Check in and set-up begins 10:30 Set up for paint judging 10:30-11:00 Donuts, mingling, and paint-judging 11:00-1:30 Round 1 1:30-2:30 Lunch and Beer 2:30-5:00 Round 2 5:00-6:30 Dinner and Beer 6:30-9:00 Round 3 ASAP Awards, prizes, raffles, and goodness 10:00 Post-tournament drinks and frivolity 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Android Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Looking good. As far as the red points, • I don't think a blanket ban on special characters is needed since they are included in swedish comp. • I prefer open lists but either way is fine. • I'm in favor of the half points for units at half strength or fleeing though. • Standard deployment thingees are good. • I doubt anyone would bring a folding fortress anyway, it's comped pretty heavily in swedish comp and it introduces problems as far as terrain setup so not allowing it makes sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiccus Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 -Some may take issue with half points for fleeing units. Just something to consider. I am in favor of it however. I also think that in terms of characters maybe award half points for characters if they are riding a monstrous mount and the either the character or the mount is slain. -In general I enjoy closed lists as it makes sense that not everyone would have a random ultra mega artificer on hand that can say "Oh that is Zorkblort's Magnificent Dingledongle! It makes your eyes explode if he turns it a quarter turn left and then 73 degrees to the right!" That said I wonder if open list may be a bit more conducive to a tournament setting. -I like standard deployment types. Don't want to do anything too fancy to throw a wrench in the works. - I am kind of with Andy in that it may be unnecessary to ban SCs due to the comp already hitting them. That said, many people may not enjoy SCs due to not knowing their capabilities. - Also have we decided against allowing Monstrous Arcanum and other non army book monsters? Is this due to Swedish comp having no score for those items? I like the idea of including them but It could be more complicated than it needs to be otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Skarsnik, Gobbla, and I will continue to politely object to any full ban on special characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMGraham Posted August 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 You gonna actually play Fantasy, Corey? Hmmm... Given the special characters are covered in Swedish, I'm down with including them. Monstrous Arcanum and Storm of Magic aren't in Swedish, and they vary TONS in power. Some are useless. Some are death incarnate. Makes it had to include them. If we decided to do closed list, we'd want folks to have two copies of their army list. One with magical gubagoos listed, one without. The opponent is given a copy of the one without before the game and the one without after the game. Any shenanigans result in the offending party being disqualified from awards? Just a thought. So, if we're talking 1/2 points, the options are: * 1/2 points for units at or below half starting strength * 1/2 points for units fleeing at end of game (doesn't stack with above) * Points for characters and ridden monsters calculated separately But it sounds like we should poll for that. OK to post the basics for the tournament (without the scoring stuff?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbert Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I like it so far. I am strongly in favor for closed lists, they provide a tactical challenge and can make things more of a mind [big bad swear word] for opponents. There are also several abilities and spells that become useless with open lists. The special characters is difficult, I personally really like the idea of no special characters but I have always hated them. the half points for fleeing units and units below half starting value I think will work. I have heard of tournaments on the east coast doing similar things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Reason you don't see me playing is this opinion of no special characters... I like all night gobos and Skarsnik gives me a mighty ld 8(maybe nine been a long time). The issue came from odd base sizes and not being able to use an orc... With specials allowed I'll calculate my comp tonight while waiting for paint to dry and let you know how serious I am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbitron Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 To address the url: http://www.bhamsters.com/hamslamwich Basics up there, if people want edit rights lemme know, and Jim I'll shoot you a link for the spreadsheet (if you have a Google account). If you have another method you want for keeping the list lemme know and I'll figure out how to plug it in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Well, got kinda excited worked up the comp... 13 points! Yay I like the way that sounds so as long as I get to play Skarsnik I'll be happy... Checking the date now tho that is close to Thanksgiving which is big travel for me... Looks like I need to paint two mangler squigs,make sure my book is the current one, and relearn this game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkie Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Wow, my Dwarfs suck! 16 points for the list I've been running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veskit Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Hey JIM! If you're playing in this I WILL BE THERE AND I'M BRINGING HELL WITH ME! (or at least members of Chop! and WCP). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrizic Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 I can't wait for WHFB to finally get allies too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbert Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 I can't wait for WHFB to finally get allies too NOOOOO!! YOU FOOL OF A TUKE! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrizic Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 NOOOOO!! YOU FOOL OF A TUKE! don't feed the trolls ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbitron Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 NOOOOO!! YOU FOOL OF A TUKE! TOOK you uncivilized ape. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkie Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 TOOK you uncivilized ape. Where'd you put his ape you bastard?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMGraham Posted August 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Hey JIM! If you're playing in this I WILL BE THERE AND I'M BRINGING HELL WITH ME! (or at least members of Chop! and WCP). Not sure if I get to play (it would have to be Warriors, because my Woodies aren't even close to being updated), but Canadian Hell is a brand of Hell I can manage! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMGraham Posted August 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Posting is live: http://www.ordofanaticus.com/index.php?/topic/22460-whfb-ham-slamwich-2014-bellingham-nw-masters-qualifier-1122/#entry261588 Who will be the first to register? (Answer - it's usually Mark or Derk) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veskit Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Paid bitches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMGraham Posted August 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Hey Warhamsters - The tournament is 1/3 full. If you're planning on coming, registering sooner rather than later is a good idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Srsly the non fantasy player was in there before you chumps! :P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMGraham Posted September 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Thirteen spots left, folks! I'm currently in the process of convincing Joey that each of the scenarios needs to be written in both Warhammer and Boozehammer variants. We can't boozehammer at DTG, but that doesn't mean the scenarios can't be written with that in mind. Sherbert, Grayson, Munkie, are you in? You're in, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbert Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 can I just give you money or do I need to use paypal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMGraham Posted September 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Cash is king. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbert Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 ill try and remember to bring cash for tuesday. My friend from Seattle also wants to play but doesnt want to deal with paypal. I will see him after tuesday and give you his money the following tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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