Guest Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Yes, the answer to scatter laser spam is Land Raiders everywhere. AV13 front would do just fine. That's like almost every necron vehicle, preds, vinds, soulgrinder, imperial knights and so forth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 AV13 front would do just fine. That's like almost every necron vehicle, preds, vinds, soulgrinder, imperial knights and so forth. Except front isn't going to do it when your opponent can just get side arc. Here's my new Eldar list. Give me a list that will stand up to it: Single CAD: 40 Jetbikes, 1-2 Jetseers, Wraithknight, 3-9 Vauls with D Weapons That's 4-10 long ranged D, 160 36" S6 AP6 and plenty of psychic to handle buffs/debuffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 This is assuming there are no lances, D weapons or anything else in the other 800 points of the army. Land Raiders aren't going to save you. Right, how foolish of me.... My army is only the 250pt tank, but yours is 1k+. How silly of me, thinking that the eldar should fight with same number of points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andozane Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Watch Scatter Lasers change to S3 :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 At Current Prices: 40 Jetbikes is 1080 9 Vauls with D is 495 Wraith is 240 Jetseer is 115 Bah, 1930. I'll need to drop 2 Vauls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Wow...so...uh... Let's turn this topic on its head as per what Pax was attempting. Uh, how in the name of all that's holy can *anything* compete with this!??!?! What is going to hold up to that? Seriously, I'd love to hear some thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Wow...so...uh... Let's turn this topic on its head as per what Pax was attempting. Uh, how in the name of all that's holy can *anything* compete with this!??!?! What is going to hold up to that? Seriously, I'd love to hear some thoughts. Luckily, I'm only worried about the bikes. The D will probably be banned from ITC events. So who can survive 160 S6 AP6 shots a turn? Who can also survive the associated lances, psychic powers and other goodies that the other 800 points will bring? I think sisters (stay with me) will do okay. Repressors for AV13 front. Plasma Oblit with Dominions for Bike Killing goodness. Dominions/Exos to take out the Wraithknights. Not good by any means, but okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarlordGhrom Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 could be typos as well in the white dwarf. We have seen it before. I'll wait for the codex before I scream (happily as an Eldar player or in terror as everyone else). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Keep in mind 40 jetbikes take up a LOT of room too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 could be typos as well in the white dwarf. We have seen it before. I'll wait for the codex before I scream (happily as an Eldar player or in terror as everyone else). That's what everyone is hoping for. That one or both are incorrect (the jetbike upgrades and the D weapon on everyone). Personally, I'm shooting for 'worst april fools ever'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I don't play enough small unit count armies to care about D weapons ("Oh noes! My Orks!"), but the scatter laser spam is insane. Even assuming I'd have 5+ cover, 40 jetbikes would kill ~60 boyz a TURN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I don't play enough small unit count armies to care about D weapons ("Oh noes! My Orks!"), but the scatter laser spam is insane. Even assuming I'd have 5+ cover, 40 jetbikes would kill ~60 boyz a TURN. Without suffering from return fire for at least the first turn. (based on range) and that isn't counting the JSJ shenanigans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotyknows Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I really hope GW dont screw this up and give us the same broken eldar in a different form. Here is to hoping it wont be like this in the codex or scatter lasers will be str 3 or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I really hope GW dont screw this up and give us the same broken eldar in a different form. Here is to hoping it wont be like this in the codex or scatter lasers will be str 3 or something. They've been confirmed at S6 AP6 Heavy 4 with no Laser Lock from the WD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Isn't GW notorious for releasing rather broken rules in the WD just prior to launch of a new codex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Let this sink in. Double CAD 12 units of 3 jetbikes with scatter lasers. 972 pts and you have better ability to spread out the damage so even if you face MSU you don't get "hosed". Also, one of the few drawbacks on the jetbikes is low Leadership, so a big unit is probably not optimal as it's just a few casualties and a failed check from getting run off the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Double CAD. Double CAD...oh look, already banned in most events.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Which events? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Double CAD...oh look, already banned in most events.... Okay, so respond to my single CAD 1850. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Which events? ITC doesn't do double CAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Dammit Vaul's are only 24". Still nasty, but not as bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I missed that. So, wait, how are Pentyrants happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I missed that. So, wait, how are Pentyrants happening? CAD plus Leviathan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Heck, just take Jeremy's psychic leadership list and replace practically everything non-essential with more Jetbikes with SL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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