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Trying to figure out what I want to do:

 

St Celestine

5 BSS with M/F in Repressor

5 BSS with F/F in TL-MM Immo

5 BSS with F/F in TL-MM Immo

5 Doms with 4 Melta in Repressor with Laud Hailer

5 Doms with 4 Melta in Repressor

5 Doms with 4 Melta in Repressor

Exorcist

Exorcist

Exorcist

Plasma Obliterator

Vindicare Assassin

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As far as I know there is not wolf character that has a bs of 6 or better to help with the gets hot rolls. Stick with the vindicare for the ignore cover and high bs.

Helm of Durfast. Reroll to-hits and ignores cover. 20 points.

 

Example list:

Celestine

5 BSS with MM (in Plasma)

5 BSS with 2 Flamers in TL-MM Immo

5 BSS with 2 Flamers in TL-MM Immo

5 Doms with 4 Melta in Repressor (laud hailer)

5 Doms with 4 Melta in Repressor

5 Doms with 4 Melta in Repressor

Exorcist

Exorcist

Exorcist

Plasma Oblit

 

Rune Priest with Helm

5 GH with Melta, WG with Combi, 5 CCW in Drop Pod

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Tricky bit on the Plasma. I can put Vindicare and Celestine in there. Vindicare can still shoot out unless I need him for ignore cover/denying LOS/precision. Celestine can charge out for funsies or fire with her good BS.

 

You can't put both of them in the building, unless it has special rules; only one unit can be inside a building (or transport) and Celestine cannot join the Vindicare due to his rules.

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Yeah, the only real advantage the Vindicare is the Precision shots for everything with LOS at -2. So you can drill out any particular models you want. And of course, his sniper rifle if you want someone else shooting. 

 

The rune priest can witchfire out the firing ports too though.

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Wonder if I have the points to get a FA drop pod as well. Drop a repressor, maybe upgrade the immos to repressors. This is the wolf list. Probably going to skip the vindicare. Still mulling.

Not 100% understanding that plas oblit tower, but some things of note:

 

Can't get precision shots with blast weapons. Pretty sure plas tower is a very large blast, so no precision.

 

Buildings kill assassins really quickly. Issue is that damage to buildings takes the of 2-4 D6s of S6 damage (some results hit models on battlements too). Assassins crumble to this focused fire, even with invulnerable save. Other issue is that it's very reliable to force building weapons and models inside the building to have to snapfire, which ruins precision shots a makes their impressive stats wasted.

 

Using assassin to fire the plas tower means that he can't fire his own weapons. Makes for a crazy expensive unit without much durability.

 

Anywho, just things to consider.

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Yeah, the SW one would probably be better, and it lets you use a squad to soak the S6 wounds. You'll still have issues with having the weapon destroyed, not firing because of snap shots, etc, but that's pretty unavoidable. I might take Flamer or HF on the squad inside the Plasma, just so you can fend off assaulters slightly better, but it's not a very big deal.

 

I think my biggest criticism of that list is that it's very one-dimensional; it's got a lot of high-Str low-AP guns, but doesn't do much outside of that. I'm not sure what could be changed, though, since SoB don't exactly have a ton of options outside of what you're already using.

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I rarely lose buildings. I'm pretty sure I'm going with the SW version thoughZ

Amazing, they are the first things I destroy in games with buildings. Just so very easy to destroy.

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I think my biggest criticism of that list is that it's very one-dimensional; it's got a lot of high-Str low-AP guns, but doesn't do much outside of that. I'm not sure what could be changed, though, since SoB don't exactly have a ton of options outside of what you're already using.

Yep, that's SOB for you. They do high strength, low AP. :)

 

I'm still playing I was toying with an all SW list a few minutes ago.

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CAD:

Rune Priest with Helm

5 GH with Melta, WG with Combi, 5 CCW, Drop Pod

5 GH with Melta, WG with Combi, 5 CCW, Drop Pod

5 GH with Plasma, WG with Combi, 5 CCW, Drop Pod

10 Blood Claws with Flamer in Drop Pod

5 Wolf Guard with 4 Combi-Meltas in Drop Pod

6 Long Fangs with 3 ML, 2 Lascannons

Plasma Oblit

 

CotGW

WGBL with TWM, WC/SS

Iron Priest with TWM

Iron Priest with TWM

4 TWC with WC/SS, SS/CCW, 2x BP/CCW

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I guess I've gotten to love my SOB too much. It just doesn't feel like it is enough. lol
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CAD:

Rune Priest with Helm

5 GH with Melta, WG with Combi, 5 CCW, Drop Pod

5 GH with Melta, WG with Combi, 5 CCW, Drop Pod

5 GH with Plasma, WG with Combi, 5 CCW, Drop Pod

10 Blood Claws with Flamer in Drop Pod

5 Wolf Guard with 4 Combi-Meltas in Drop Pod

6 Long Fangs with 3 ML, 2 Lascannons

Plasma Oblit

 

CotGW

WGBL with TWM, WC/SS

Iron Priest with TWM

Iron Priest with TWM

4 TWC with WC/SS, SS/CCW, 2x BP/CCW

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I guess I've gotten to love my SOB too much. It just doesn't feel like it is enough. lol

 

 

I would think this would perform better than the SoB army above. At least imo

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Okay, I think I only have 4 drop pods. Let's play some swapsies. Moved the WG to the CotGW for the extra buffs. Second list gets me priests and Celestine but loses me a Ob-Sec.

 

CAD (10 Ob-Sec)

RP with Helm - 85

6 GH with Melta/WG with Combi-Melta and Drop Pod - 149

6 GH with Melta/WG with Combi-Melta, 5 CCW and Drop Pod -  159

6 GH with Plasma/WG with Combi-Plasma, 5 CCW and Drop Pod - 164

5 Blood Claws with Flamer in Rhino - 100

5 Blood Claws with Flamer in Rhino - 100

6 Long Fangs with 2 ML and 3 Lascannons - 180

Plasma Oblit - 230 (This can take building upgrades, but not sure I want any. The ammo dump is tempting, but meh.)

 

CotGW

WGBL with TWM, Fenrisian Wolf, WC/SS - 143

4 TWC with WC/SS, SS/CCW, PF/BP, BP/CCW - 275

5 Wolf Guard with 4 Combi-Meltas in Drop Pod - 165

Iron Priest with Thunderwolf Mount - 105

 

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or...

 

CAD (6 Obsec)

RP with Helm - 85

6 GH with Melta/WG with Combi-Melta and Drop Pod - 149

5 GH with Melta/WG with Combi-Melta, 3 CCW and Drop Pod -  141

5 GH with Plasma/WG with Combi-Plasma, 4 CCW and Drop Pod - 148

5 Long Fangs with 2 ML and 2 Lascannons - 180

Plasma Oblit - 230 (This can take building upgrades, but not sure I want any. The ammo dump is tempting, but meh.)

 

CotGW

WGBL with TWM, PF/SS - 140

4 TWC with WC/SS, SS/CCW, BP/CCW, BP/CCW - 250

5 Wolf Guard with 4 Combi-Meltas in Drop Pod - 165

Iron Priest with Thunderwolf Mount - 105

 

Allied Detachment (2 Obsec)

St Celestine - 135

2 Priests with Litanies of Faith - 65

5 BSS with 2 Flamers in Rhino - 110

 

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I like the 1st list with pure wolves better.  

 

What are the fire ports on the Plasma Oblit like?  Are you putting long fangs in there?  

Yeah, the obsec on that one, mobility and such are just really good there.

 

I'm unsure of the fire points on the Plasma oblit. I'm pretty sure there's four (one on each corner)

 

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I'm guessing that if I position it flat to a board edge, I'll have basically two FP in any given direction. Which brings up a good point. Why take five weapons if I can only fire four?

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