Guest Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Does it only apply when they are solo? In example, that DA demi-company would give objective secured to the chappy/commander. Objective secured is specifically a unit thing, and ICs can be units of 1. That said, if the IC joins another unit, do they cease to be objective secured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Remember when I said quoting the rules are helpful in these situations? "Objective Secured: A unit with this special rule controls Objective Markers even if anenemy scoring unit is within range of the Objective Marker, unless the enemy unit alsohas this special rule." Unit. When he is by himself, he's a unit. When he's part of a non-obsec unit, he... "While an Independent Character is part of a unit, he counts as part of the unit for all rules purposes, though he still follows the rules for characters." "theIndependent Character’s special rules are not conferred upon the unit." is not a unit anymore. He plus the new unit are a unit. So by himself or with an obsec unit? Obsec Attached to a non-obsec unit? Not-Obsec. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarlessllama Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I think the above interpretation is correct. But from my understanding, all units that are part of the demi-company are ObSec. Which would mean, the IC in question would have to join a unit that is outside of the demi-company in order to lose it. So if the IC joined a unit of terminators, then yes I think they would indeed lose ObSec while attached to said unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 How quaint, a clear and decisive ruling in the BRB. I think the above interpretation is correct. But from my understanding, all units that are part of the demi-company are ObSec. Which would mean, the IC in question would have to join a unit that is outside of the demi-company in order to lose it. So if the IC joined a unit of terminators, then yes I think they would indeed lose ObSec while attached to said unit. This is true, but not all the units, in a Lion Strike Force, for example, have Objective Secured, only those via the demi-company sub-formation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Anyway, was double checking to see if I've finally found a use for that Shroud of Heroes on the lone IC....looks like I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I don't have the DA codex yet, what's the Shroud do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I don't have the DA codex yet, what's the Shroud do? Same as last edition, FNP for the bearer. Also gives shrouding if the bearer is NOT in a unit. 10pts in this edition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 A solo IC is very easy to make viable as objective secured if it has FNP and a 2+ or 3+ cover save. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Angel Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 "Blink blink" Am I the only scared by what happened in this thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 "Blink blink" Am I the only scared by what happened in this thread? Because we agreed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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