Horus Heresy plastics?

[pretre]

I don't know if there's a newer thread for this but I saw these on FB...

 

[dalmer]

Was originally rumored to come out in May 2015, obviously didn't happen... but now thinking November?

 

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?53139-40K-End-Times-%28Plastic-Horus-Heresy%29&p=476729#post476729

[andozane]

New rumors I had read were pointing to November....

 

BUT WHO CARES...30K plastics...engage full power GW Fanboi power now!!! :)

[InfestedKerrigan]

New rumors I had read were pointing to November....

 

BUT WHO CARES...30K plastics...engage full power GW Fanboi power now!!! :)

 

 

Married life must be pretty forgiving for you financially ;)

[andozane]

Married life must be pretty forgiving for you financially ;)

 

I have my coin jar set aside for next big GW purchase...it should have just over $200 in there :)

 

Funny story about my coin jar...

 

When Allison was moving in and we were moving her stuff, she had a coin jar.  I picked it up and put it in a box, and made a comment, "Hey, you have a coin jar like me!  But I bet you spend yours differently" to which she says, "What do you mean?"  Then I explain that my coin jar when full I get to spend it on something cool gaming wise.  She gets all frowny face and says "No way!!!" and I'm like "Why?".

 

She then tells me that forever when she has had coins she put them in my jar :)

 

 

I"m like "Awww, thanks honey for supporitng my gaming addiction"

 

I don't think she has put any change in my jar since :)

[InfestedKerrigan]

See, that's why communication is important.  She knew the jar was intended to be spent on taking her places and family trips.  Then you repurpose the funds without having committee.  I'd stop putting coins in the jar, too.  ;)

[Guest]

Those are *clearly* the new dwarves for AoS.....

[WestRider]

Those are *clearly* the new dwarves for AoS.....

Please. Duardin ;)

[pretre]

Duardin-American.

[WestRider]

Duardin-American.

Well, that would depend on where they're living now, wouldn't it? What if they're Duardin-British? ;)

[pretre]

Duardin, please.

[Guest]

Duardin-American.

So, now short people are a racial group?

[pretre]

From Hastings:

 

PENDING Horus Heresy Rumors - July 2015

Hastings - Warseer 

Posted by Samsonov 

 

Also, the rumoured starter set was two praetors, 40 marines, 10 terminators and 2 contemptors. It looks like the two praetors have been spotted. Still struggle to believe they would include all that in one starter, at least not at the £75 range.

 

I don't think it was 40 marines, for some reason I thought it was 30. But the other figures look right.

 

PENDING Horus Heresy Rumors - July 2015

Posted by Vanisher 

Makes me wonder will there be a full cataphractii terminator squad kit.

 

Yes, as per my post 15th Feb

 

PENDING Horus Heresy Rumors - July 2015

I don't know TBH, I'll share what I have heard, but this dates back a while as I pay very little interest to GW now. 

 

I heard that 30k HH would be a boxed standalone game (like execution force was) and that the plastics contained within it would go on to form part of a larger 30k range and would be released some time later as individual box sets/clampacks, I was told that rules would be in those boxes, but that some boxes would contain rules for 30k AND 40k (and these boxes have BOTH logos on - yes there is a new 30k logo) so I assume it will be using a different ruleset to 40k (as there would be no point having rules for both systems in boxes if they were both the same). I was also told the plastic assassins would get clampack releases later and be released as part of the main 40k range..... as the box set is pretty much still quite widely available I don't expect this to be soon, although I never had a timeframe in the first case. 

 

As for your AoS style rule reboot question - I remember being told to expect 40k codexes (codices?) to be a thing of the past within 2 years, and that the rules would be in the box for each model/unit, but there would still be a core ruleset which the in box rules would obviously add to. I've not bought any AoS releases (nor do I intend to) so I don't know if they have rules in the boxes (seems daft as when rules got FAQ'd (lol) or changed they'd need to repack ALL the boxes - seems even dafter that anything would actually bother with rules for AoS!!) or just online? I am going to leap to the conclusion that 40k probably WILL become more simplified like AoS, mainly because GW no longer see themselves as rules/games writers but just model sellers. How much more simplified I wouldn't hazard a guess at. Whatever they decide to do you can bet it's in the pipeline already, because myself and Harry were privately discussing the changes to WFB almost 3 years ago - I was told it was being canned and whilst we thought that was not the case and that AoS would be a continuation or refresh of it WFB HAS actually been canned and REPLACED by AoS, so these things are planned well ahead. 

 

FW make huge sales from HH, there was no way that GW weren't going to want in on the action! I expect FW to still produce the big kits/characters/customising kits but GW will provide the bulk of the models needed to play 30k. We can only hope that GW let FW handle the 30k rules/books and they just make the models for it. But keep in mind I was told that when the 30k RANGE hits the stores (not the standalone box game but the actual range) it will take over the store space that used to be taken up by LotR/Hobbit, so GW may want to keep tight hold of the reigns even though they are no longer committed to producing games? 

 

That's probably done very little to answer you, but it's the best I can manage and hopefully slightly informative if only a repost of what I wrote in January. 

 

Indeed. Maybe those are the 2 characters from the starter/standalone box that might only be available in that box...... or something 

 

*EDIT. 

 

Having thought about this I think the unit/model rules for 30k & 40k will be online/WD rather than actually inside the box kits (I may have misinterpreted what my source said). 

 

Also I should point out that as I understand it 40k and 30k will be very different games/rulesets, so it may be that 40k becomes like AoS and 30k is handled by FW (although this is just wishful thinking on the behalf of hobbyists the world over!). 

 

Of course I may be completely wrong...... because that happens a lot 

[PourSpelur]

What if they're Duardin-British? ;)

Actually they're Duardin-Bryteesh©®™

Back on track, I want these! No idea what I'll use them for but I need them;)

[BrainFireBob]

 

 

 

As for your AoS style rule reboot question - I remember being told to expect 40k codexes (codices?) to be a thing of the past within 2 years, and that the rules would be in the box for each model/unit, but there would still be a core ruleset which the in box rules would obviously add to.

 

This alone is horrifying and would kill the game by rendering all models already produced obsolete. This auto-invalidates all models people already have in their collections, and would be a nightmare to keep current with edition changes. Either there will be a master codex for existing units and this is what they'll do for new units, or all digital I could see, but no codices at all? That automatically screws over their vendors and their existing player base.

[InfestedKerrigan]

[spagunk]

This alone is horrifying and would kill the game by rendering all models already produced obsolete. This auto-invalidates all models people already have in their collections, and would be a nightmare to keep current with edition changes. Either there will be a master codex for existing units and this is what they'll do for new units, or all digital I could see, but no codices at all? That automatically screws over their vendors and their existing player base.

 

I don't know honestly how this would work. However I will point out that Spartan Games does something where they put out a product and then after a certain amount of time they make the information available for free. They wait long enough to allow purchasers to get some use from it though. If I remember correctly, they waiting almost 2 years before releasing their rulebook as free. That's the only way it really makes sense in my opinion.

[BrainFireBob]

I imagine Spartan started that way. It's transitioning into it that's the problem.

 

Take my CSM. Raptors, bikes, rhinos, land raiders, terminators, independent characters, CSM, all four cults, etc. I'd need to re-buy one unit of everything to keep using things I already have!?

 

I could see them requiring you to scan a barcode, proving you purchased the unit recently, and then letting you download. Yet how many of us save our boxes?

 

The latter is the sickening part, because it makes it believable to me as "GW logic."

 

Mind, I can easily see them going to all-digital by-unit purchasing of rules, too- and given their overwhelming genius in the field of business, making it iPhone only. Or whatever the google knockoff is in China, and then being confused European and North American sales tank.

[pretre]

I imagine Spartan started that way. It's transitioning into it that's the problem.

 

Take my CSM. Raptors, bikes, rhinos, land raiders, terminators, independent characters, CSM, all four cults, etc. I'd need to re-buy one unit of everything to keep using things I already have!?

 

I could see them requiring you to scan a barcode, proving you purchased the unit recently, and then letting you download. Yet how many of us save our boxes?

 

The latter is the sickening part, because it makes it believable to me as "GW logic."

 

Mind, I can easily see them going to all-digital by-unit purchasing of rules, too- and given their overwhelming genius in the field of business, making it iPhone only. Or whatever the google knockoff is in China, and then being confused European and North American sales tank.

I think this is a bit too far. Thinking GW is going to go full digital and there will be no optional for analog...  Yeah, of all the things to be worried about, the above post isn't one.

[Guest]

I imagine Spartan started that way. It's transitioning into it that's the problem.

 

Take my CSM. Raptors, bikes, rhinos, land raiders, terminators, independent characters, CSM, all four cults, etc. I'd need to re-buy one unit of everything to keep using things I already have!?

 

I could see them requiring you to scan a barcode, proving you purchased the unit recently, and then letting you download. Yet how many of us save our boxes?

 

The latter is the sickening part, because it makes it believable to me as "GW logic."

 

Mind, I can easily see them going to all-digital by-unit purchasing of rules, too- and given their overwhelming genius in the field of business, making it iPhone only. Or whatever the google knockoff is in China, and then being confused European and North American sales tank.

That would a disaster. I can easily see privateer press doing this, as they are ones keen on micro managing their rules, but GW wouldn't.

 

I think GW is clearly a model company, and doing the above would be counter productive, as they have a very old model line, especially for 40k, which would become obsolete and that would cripple much of their industry. Part of what keeps GW going is that they have an extensive model line with an enforced premium price. Even the knock offs are pretty spendy.

 

I think GW switching to an all digital codex approach is very realistic. As their digital sales prove people will play almost full price for something that only exists as 1s and 0s, and still requires the same creation effort on their end.

[Guest]

And part of what made WHFB fail was how easy it was to get affordable knock offs, like those reaper bones models. There's just too many other fantasy armies out there for sale. GW's competing with all of them. In order to make AoS work, they need to alter the model line to be uniquely GW, so they aren't competing with every d&d model ever made.

 

With 40k, GW mostly is competing with its own outdated models. There are a few smaller companies making 40k-like models, but GW is mostly competing with itself.

[Guest]

Those unit fillers, which  players make for WHFB, are now impossible since they changed to 40k movement styles. Helps sell models....

[dalmer]

Hello there,

 

Update to plastic HH rumors... October boxed set?

 

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/08/horus-heresy-dueling-rumors-edition.html

 

Stay safe,

 

don

[InfestedKerrigan]

Hmm.  I thought I posted something about this.

[InfestedKerrigan]

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