orkdork Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'm just starting to understand what Lilith can really do, and she seems pretty much way, way better than Zoraida. Tangled Shadows on your own dudes is ridiculous. Against opponents, the low Ca 5 means you'll often regret dropping the stone or high masks only to lose to your opponent's 13 of any suit. Against your own crew, you just need a 9 and a mask and you can do so much insane work. Basically, Hexed Among You Waldgeists become launch nodes for glass cannons like Juju/Nekima/Lilith. 1 of Lilith's AP can mean Nekima is able to drop 3 attacks on anything within 5" of a friendly. Or Juju can show up for a perfect landslide + flurry. Furthermore, you're likely calling back a wounded Waldgeist, which means likely saving yourself quite a few AP. And when you take wings of night, the double rush of magic + stone for cards means you draw 11, discard 5, so those Juju/Nekima alphas are going to really, really hurt. 1/5 chance of a red-joker in hand for the damage cheat... In a competitive environment, about the only strat/scheme set I can imagine running Zoraida over Lilith would be something like Stake a Claim/Distract/Cursed Object, where the Zor list is pretty awesome. My most recent list for a turf war game (distract + protect territory) was: Lilith, Beckon, Wings Nekima, Mimic's Blessing Juju, Eternal, Hexed 3 Walds Primordial Magic Max SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach_5 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Yeah she's good. You can usually find a Wp 5 or less enemy to target with Tangled Shadows when necessary, but you still want to try to drain your opponents hands before trying for it. Certainly less card intensive targeting allies, though being able to send up a healthy waldgeist and bring back a tough enemy to get beaten on by all your heavy hitters is gold too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach_5 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Also worth noting you can tangle shadows Lilith herself to place her in contact with the target and then place the target into base contact with her. ;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcalla Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Glad to see you've found the joys of fishing for victims... Its also good for replacing scheme/strat runners on thier lonesome. Fling a tot out and bingo start removing/placing scheme markers. And most of the "scheme" runners tend to be easier targets for the WP resist. Or better yet, Run your own tots out then changee thier places for even more scheme placement speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rage Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 Just to throw it out there, the latest podcast episode from Schemes & Stones covers Lillith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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