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rundown of iowa incident: pretty good!  had a lot of really good games.  came in second behind a steel phalanx player that majored every single one of his games for 15 TP lol.  I watched him play and

so i decided to drop the other one as 'starting aleph' doesnt really apply anymore and i cant seem to change the title lol(tips appreciated if anyone knows!).  so ive been researching the factions a l

Hey y'all Miss you guys!  Hope all is well :) Anywho I haven't played in a tournament since my last update... not shockingly as some of you may know Emily and I have a son named Lytle Jeffrey Rob

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I wouldn't build lists with Toni in them going forward, she's getting the nuke in HSN3.  She is unbalanced, compared to a regular Tikbalang.

yea im expecting a change because the rumors have been strong about that.  im just making the old armored cav model to look like a tikbalang.  im hoping they fuse the profiles a bit but who knows.  she's definitely a stronger choice than regular tikbalangs and overshadows it.  compared to the other pan-o TAGs i wouldnt call her a stronger choice than some of them.  all the pan-o TAGs are super different and cool. 

this list is more something that is a 'guideline' for the type of lists ill be using.  it will probably have some minor tweaks in the 3-4 months from now when i actually get to playing it LOL

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trying to think of 3 lists ill basically use for tournaments.  my first one is the last one im sticking to.  think the second one will be a marut list.  third list im thinking something like this:  

logo_71.png Aleph
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Group 1 sep.gifsep.giforden_regular.png 9 orden_irregular.png0 orden_impetuosa.png0
logo_3.png DEVA (Multispectral Visor L2) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 33)
logo_3.png DEVA (G: Synchronized) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser+Devabot / Pistol, Knife. (27)
sep.giflogo_3_2.png DEVABOT Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (4)
logo_3.png DEVA Lieutenant (G: Synchronized) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser+Devabot / Pistol, Knife. (27)
sep.giflogo_3_2.png DEVABOT Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (4)
logo_6.png NAGA (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
logo_6.png NAGA (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
logo_17.png PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (14)
logo_10.png DALETH Rebot Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (17)
logo_1.png DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (15)
logo_18.png PROXY Mk.2 Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
logo_8.png MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (16)
 
Group 2 sep.gifsep.giforden_regular.png6 orden_irregular.png0 orden_impetuosa.png0
logo_11.png ZAYIN Rebot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
logo_15.png NETROD Electric Pulse. (4)
logo_15.png NETROD Electric Pulse. (4)
logo_2.png GARUDA Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 30)
logo_13.png LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (8)
logo_15.png NETROD Electric Pulse. (4)
 
5 SWC | 300 Points
 
 
essentially you are getting rid of scylla, dasyu FO and the mk2 sniper but are subbing in a deva wiht bot(getting out of obvious leiutenant), TO hacker, a FO bot, netrod and a naga minelayer.  so you gain an order and have kind of a different approach with more camo markers.  just to keep opponent(especially ones that play me often) honest!  the marut list will just be obviously focused around the big heeled bunny.  some smoke and CoC along with things to protect her and get objectives.  9 orders stinks but strategos makes it 10 on anything.  just making the big bunny get her points back with carnage is important!  take some play testing...
logo_71.png Aleph
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Group 1 sep.gifsep.giforden_regular.png9 orden_irregular.png0 orden_impetuosa.png0
logo_5.png MARUT Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Heavy Flamethrower, Nanopulser / AP CCW. (3 | 120)
logo_11.png ZAYIN Rebot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
logo_6.png NAGA (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
logo_18.png PROXY Mk.2 Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
logo_17.png PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (14)
logo_10.png DALETH Rebot Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (17)
logo_1.png DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (15)
logo_1.png DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (15)
logo_21.png MYRMIDON (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 38)
logo_15.png NETROD Electric Pulse. (4)
logo_14.png YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (3)
 
6 SWC | 300 Points
 
 
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wow havent posted in a while it seems!  so im going to an ITS food can drive event in seattle this weekend with the guys from the 'couv.  really pumped not only to play against the great players in seattle but also to converse with the guys from the 'couv on the way up/back as I havent had much interaction with um yet!

the three scenerios are cold sleep, nimbus zone and a special food version.  ive played cold sleep before and my regular list will work fine for it  i think but i was curious what to use for nimbus zone.... so rudra and i got a test game in today to get a feel for it.  not going to give my list away but it played pretty decently i think.  lots of terrible dice from rudra.  he was trying to control 'something of mine'(ok its a Marut lol) and failed the F2F 5 times in a row with father knight hacker.  yea it was that kind of game for him.... rudra might be replacing me for worst dice roller award!  or at least at d20s, idk im pretty spectacular at d6 rolling :P

in other news... GOT MY TERRAIN IN TODAY FROM IMP MORTAL!  soooo pumped.  can finally start contributing to game nights(which i havent been able to make lately...).  i will be at game night on sunday running KoW but ill be bringing both fantasy and infinity models.  good times in the miniature life :)  life world not so much, but eh hopefully find a job soon... hopefully :(

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Yeah, d20s just don't get along with me, I must have offended their culture at some point.   I think your list is just fine so long as you keep the morat properly supported like you did in our game.  No one if going to try and take it straight on, so if you keep it covered from other angles then it will wreck shop and clear the board for you.

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Yeah, d20s just don't get along with me, I must have offended their culture at some point.   I think your list is just fine so long as you keep the morat properly supported like you did in our game.  No one if going to try and take it straight on, so if you keep it covered from other angles then it will wreck shop and clear the board for you.

yea i noticed you were saying this during our game.  usually pronounciations/whatnot dont mean jack to me but when you miscall ALEPH's killing machine for a stinky race of ape aliens... :P

side note, reason i like aleph so much is the names are generally deities. Marut is a very fitting name for bunny girl lol.  hindu god of storm and death.  yup!

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making some slight changes(ive been doing this a bit lately).  i think i just kind of want to rotate between using either pheonix, machaon and/or scylla.  they are pretty much the only SP i play in vanilla but i dont really like bringing all of them cause they eat at other things that i need/want in the list but i like the flavor they bring.  

 

last event in seattle i brought machaon and 2 other para dakinis for cold sleep and ended up using it for the special food drop as well.  scylla was in both of my lists and she was great but i played her kind of stupidly and she got caught in the open too much.  still she is a great speed bump.  the naga minelayer is pretty much in all my lists but i brought the naga hacker for kicks with the marut list because it was a pro-hacker/engineer scenerio and i also brought a dactyl.  tactically i got outplayed my first game by a good haqq player in the doc specialist one( i would get haqq for a doc one grumble..).  he held one side of the board super solid and i just had my naga there to try and pin them down and thats what he did.  my msv2 spitfire deva went down to some bad luck in that game along with the garuda.  i also failed 3-4 wip15 rolls that game(not as bad as the next game though...) which cost me a point.  got outplayed though cause i just couldnt deal with the board control he had on one side and i couldnt fully secure the other side due to his hmg and sniper and my lack of options in dealing with them after my spitfire and hmg bot went down.  think it ended 3-1 or something points wise.

so that was my first game against against haqq and my second game was my first game against tohaa lol.  i had a plan for this one with a marut list with a ton of hackers and engineers to take objectives.  i got first turn and was super happy about that because i had a plan for it.  it was basically secure 2 antennas and knock one out with the marut shooting it.  well... plans sometimes dont work when your dice are like 'we really want to [big bad swear word] with you this game'.  i moved aggressively and shot some things with the marut first order.  then moved up my engineers.   i had a total of 8 orders to do these things so it had to be relatively precise.  got 1 engineer in position, failed wip roll. got another one in position, fail wip roll.  used command token to have both do it, they both fail(one of my engineers is wip 15 other is wip 13).  used another command token, they both fail.  decided 'welp i might as well and try something different' so i attempted with one of them and tried again and SUCCESS!!!!!!  thats right, 6? straight failed wips with aleph... 'sigh' only me lol.  well i got one and i think i had 3 orders left. so i rushed the dactyl up to the one near him and got the antenna first try... SOMEHOW.  last order tried to shoot with the marut at the other antenna near my opponent.  hitting on 18s... missed.  that may have been one of the most spetacular turns ive seen in infinity lol.  my opponent though didnt have much better luck than me so it did feel like a comical game!  nimbus zone definitely played a part of it but even then we both were rolling quite terribly. i took 2 wounds from one sniper shot on my marut... decided to spend cans to reroll those and success.  i made probably ~10 armor saves with the marut so AT LEAST my dice were consistently high!  we did a bunch of dancing around really.  he got one objective for downloading and i got the antennas so it was 3-1 to me i think?  i can NEVER seem to get my stinking classifieds.  whoever is suppose to do it either dies or fails trying to do it... which i think i tried data scan 2 times and failed and was like screw it. 

last game george outplayed me with his military orders.  i deployed my naga and his mine right next to his 2 TO markers thinking 'hehehe i hope they react sometime'.  totally forgot about it and that was pretty stupid of me cause it probably cost me my garuda.  im such a noob!  garuda did get another father knight to his head collection, but the magister link was amazing this game.  his panzers did work on me.   i isolated his link leader for kicks cause... well... ive never done it lol.  apparently that was a bad decision cause his knight was like 'ok fine ill just run around the corner and cut off your mk2 hackers head'.  scylla got her bots to double flame the magisters twice and their armor was golden!  she went down though.  garuda got killed by a spec serg i think that was in TO(the one next to a mine..).  machaon died i think to a panzer while i was trying to actually DO MY STINKING CLASSIFIED.  i was pretty close to retreat in the end same as first game.  george handed me a solid 6-2 loss.  i really liked that scenerio though.  was fun.  accumulative bad dice were ticking me off though at this point so i was pretty frustrated... deserve an appology to george cause i pretty much didnt care anymore halfway through the game and was being a little whiney kid.  wish mox allowed beer in that room cause that would have made me less cranky LOL.

so some slight modification for a 300 point next week.  think pheonix might be fun to try out while machaon sits on the bench. *shrugs* i like syclla but i also like making some fine tune changes.  nothing really drastic tbh.  why i like this game.  take 3 models out put 3 others in.  so much for sticking to my same list lol. i also miss my dasyu... its just sooo good for missions.  miss my mk2 sniper but the mk2 hacker is just better for ITS.  

logo_71.png Aleph
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Group 1 sep.gifsep.giforden_regular.png 9 orden_irregular.png0 orden_impetuosa.png0
logo_3.png DEVA (Multispectral Visor L2) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 33)
logo_3.png DEVA (G: Synchronized) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser+Devabot / Pistol, Knife. (27)
sep.giflogo_3_2.png DEVABOT Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (4)
logo_3.png DEVA Lieutenant (G: Synchronized) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser+Devabot / Pistol, Knife. (27)
sep.giflogo_3_2.png DEVABOT Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (4)
logo_17.png PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (14)
logo_18.png PROXY Mk.2 Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
logo_28.png PHOENIX Heavy Rocket Launcher, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Assault Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 35)
logo_7.png DASYU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (36)
logo_13.png LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (8)
logo_1.png DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (15)
logo_1.png DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (15)
 
Group 2 sep.gifsep.giforden_regular.png5 orden_irregular.png0 orden_impetuosa.png0
logo_2.png GARUDA Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 30)
logo_15.png NETROD Electric Pulse. (4)
logo_11.png ZAYIN Rebot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
logo_15.png NETROD Electric Pulse. (4)
logo_15.png NETROD Electric Pulse. (4)
 
6 SWC | 299 Points
 
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so dinking around with list fun.  trying to find a marut list that works overall for ITS(rather than one built specifically for something like 'nimbus zone').  this list looks hilarious.  3 regular camo and 2 TO camo markers.  plus a marut, myrm CoC and mk1 plus netrods.  seriously what a silly list!   marut sits there and says 'shoot at me!'  while camo markers sit around and say 'please move near me!'.  besides slightly order starved i dont think its half bad.  some scary tactics with it...

logo_71.png Aleph
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Group 1 sep.gifsep.giforden_regular.png9 orden_irregular.png0 orden_impetuosa.png0
logo_15.png NETROD Electric Pulse. (4)
logo_15.png NETROD Electric Pulse. (4)
logo_15.png NETROD Electric Pulse. (4)
logo_17.png PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (14)
logo_5.png MARUT Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Heavy Flamethrower, Nanopulser / AP CCW. (3 | 120)
logo_6.png NAGA (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
logo_6.png NAGA Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 32)
logo_7.png DASYU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (36)
logo_21.png MYRMIDON (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 38)
logo_18.png PROXY Mk.2 Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
 
5.5 SWC | 300 Points
 
 
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ya know ive been reading and thinking a bit between applications.  thing i initially have been bothered about was crits in the game.  ya know i was totally wrong in that train of thought.  crits are great for the game.  makes everything stand a chance and sure its luck but it makes you calculate risks a bit more as you have to remember you opponent can 'almost' always have that  ~4%(better or worse pending on dice for each player) chance of ruining your plans.  i got critted i think 6-7 times within the first turn yesterday and it really didnt even phase me.  happens.  im kinda glad ive gotten to this point lol.  acceptance that its part of the game is great for keeping your enjoyment and also helps you keep focused because even if you get murdered in this game YOU STILL HAVE A FREAKING CHANCE!  i got a few points even with 4 orders bottom turn 1 LOL.  thats what i enjoy about this game!

its not like a certain other game where you have a certain 'prince of the daemonic flavor' flap his wings and spew out a purple happy sun to suck 2/3 of your army down the hole effectively ending the game because they rolled 2 6s out of 6 dice... ya always got a chance in infinity until you are running away lol.  i like it...

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guess ill share my times at fate and fury!  i brought pretty much my typical list.  think one thing id change is for some reason i had the mk2 sniper in the list but i think the hacker needs to be there pretty much every game in ITS.  sniper is great, but specialists are better!  plus it being in hidden doesnt affect the order count if the mk1 is alive... my second list was a marut list.  it was a funky yet effective list.

first game was against brian.  this was one of those games where the dice just really favored me.  i had no real good way to deal with squalos(mk2 hacker would have been great here lol).  tried shooting at it with the sniper once.  watched him make 4 saves like it was a breeze.  decided to focus on other things lol.  dakini ARO killed his bolt link leader.  think another one as well.  i think we were both in bad range bands so my cover and mimetism assisted quite a bit.  we were fighting for the right side objective and thats where pretty much all the action was this game as it was the only one not on top of a building!  he brought a hexa FO on top of the roof on the other farside objective to claim it brilliantly staying prone as my msv2 deva was bouncing up and down wanting to discover that.   i put two dakini in suppression fire overlooking the floor objective.  he had a peacemaker on the other side and it burnt my deva but he made his NWI save getting the objective.  dasyu also killed 1 or 2 other bolts as well going to get that objective.  i hid low though this turn and decided not to seize it as i didnt have enough orders to run with it so i guarded it with all of them.  actually he burnt the dasyu on his 2nd turn lol.  i also moved machaon STUPIDLY not noticing that squalos could see.  threw smoke.  he critt'd me with explosive.  i was thinking fuuuu**** as he was my leiutenant lol.  but i was moving machaon to go do my classified and threaten the hexa.  luckily i made both saves and was like 'oh why yes i will fail my guts to take total cover to the place i was trying to go' lol.  that was crazy lucky on my part.  his turn i know i somehow got 1 wound ont he squalo.  think it was the mine he purposely set off from the naga?  oh he also sensored my naga minelayer+mine brilliantly. he did a lot of shuffling with the hexa and squalo took out both dakini i think.  the bolts were reduced to 1 bro i think via aros.  he had like 5 orders or so(including leutenant).  so my 2nd turn i took the dasyu out(now only in mimetism and NWI) to go for a run for the objective since it was clear.  got it then ran back to a corner as far away as i possibly could tucked in my deployement right corner behind a building.  his 3rd he rushed the squalos full throatle to somehow kill the dasyu.  he had to do it in 4? orders.  he took an ARO wound in the first 4(he took A LOT of AROs this turn).  his fifth turn he shoved him as far to his 6 inch movement as possible to try and see the dasyu.. just out!  so he angrily unloaded on my deva msv2 spitfire.  4 hits on like a 17 etc.  so i needed to crit... channeled my inner jerk and rolled that crit to kill the squalo.  that was insanely lucky.  so with a tie already in the bag i had i think 5 orders to claim an objective.  obviously with machaon.  i got behind his combi sensor bot and whiffed trying to kill it.  that was bad news...  got it with my second order.  then moved up the stairs on order 4.... LEIUTENANT ORDER SAVED ME!!!  got in contact hoping to all baby jesus's out there i could pass an effective WIP 18 roll... rolled a 17 lol.  so i got the objective bonus and 6 points total.  he got 3 i think.  crazy game.

will was my second opponent and had caledonians.  i played caledonians the last time with my marut and played it insanely stupidly.  so i played a bit differently this time.  will had a lower order count for an ariadna list due to a wulver link with sir william wallace.  he put what i knew to be a cateran on the roof.  there was a super long corridor and i stuck the marut looking over it with her tag team myrm next to her.  i had pretty much everything else in cover except my dasyu i put on a roof overlooking his cloaked cateran and the right side.  i knew he didnt have much to deal with TO so i played it aggressively and payed dividends!  the naga i put in the middle of the corridor with mine next to it.  basically my idea was to cut off all movement towards the marut.  i did not play the objective first round as i really didnt want to risk the marut dying without taking out pieces of his or making him deal with things.  i first tried to uncloak his cateran.  failed with the dasyu which is the only one that could see it :(  so had to make things difficult for him so he couldnt just rampage forward.  there was a small opening i saw for the naga so i went for it.  he slithered into his link team area.  laid a mine and put a wound on a wulver.  sat him there to be annoying.  i also shot the missile bot with dasyu i think.  which was CRUCIAL as i did not want to deal with FO missile shenanigans as i had a very VERY expensive TAG.   his turn 1 his impetuous movement got his dog to eat a wound from the marut.  also helped cause it set off my smoke myrmidon who happily clouded the marut to make her quite safe and scary.  the dog continued to see a few orders as it came forward to deal with the naga.  he double chained the naga and naga failed the dodge and died outright.  he also armor saved the mine ugh lol.  so that didnt go to plan!   what did go to plan was dasyu being annoying as heck.  she could see that entire building with wallace and crew so he had to be careful.  he crept up with a mk12 guy but was in his bad zone so with cover, TO and -3 range he was hitting blanks.  i was not so dasyu got a wound on that wulver.  he decided to chance it with the cateran now.  which i was in the +3 zone for him and dropped him with dasyu combi aro.  that dasyu saved my butt as he had to waste a lot of orders dealing with it and just couldnt displace it.  my turn 2 was the nastiest turn ive ever had.  i used pretty much all my command tokens.  the marut went beserk.  i had a firelane to about 5-6 of his guys.  -sorry emily had to activate her phone so i just posted at this point- long story short: marut went on a rampage and put him into retreat.  killed his entire link team with wallace and the dog.  will was a super fun guy to play against.  we were making jokes pretty much the entire game.

my last game was only one turn as i had to leave by 5 to get to an xmas party.  it was against erik.  i was going to go with my first list but decided to go with the marut list as its more of a single button list and quicker(as in i needed to play for speed!).  i took first turn.  he put everything prone essentially and hid the bikers.  i knew i had to be aggressive and get some objectives off the bat so i played the dasyu with a suicide mission to get the FO mission.  she FO a bike and killed one i think due to dogged(although come to think of it i think he forgot to remove that bike after my turn...)  he also got his FO cause he had the hacker right there(EDIT: was breezing through hacking you CANNOT spotlight in ARO so i think that shouldnt have happened!).  i totally overlooked that but whatever haha.  i laid a mine to make life difficult for the bikes.  i brought up the mk1 to do sabotage.  then put everyone into suppressive fire.  i also kept a watchful eye to an obvious fiday to the right side of the board.  i had most of my pieces forward so if he popped out anyone they would be in range of suppressive fire.  think my strategy was decent.  his turn he raced up the side with 2 bikes.  1 killed the mk1 but the mk1 killed i think a character.  he made the save against the mine and killed the dasyu.  he made a lot of armor saves with that bike!  the free bike raced to threaten the marut with flames.  i keep my myrmidon close for a reason!  he put a wound on the marut but marut murdered the bike in suppressvie fire(hello shock!)  so i think at the end of the turn i got all the bikes but 1 and he got the dasyu, mk1 and two netrods.  i think he still had the edge anyways but i was going to run my hacker mk2 out and hopefully achieve 2 objectives.  oh well!  

notes:

-dasyu FO is by far my MVP.  i doubt ill ever make a list without it for ITS..

-mk2 hacker>sniper.  the sniper is great but the utility of the hacker is larger.  especially since hidden doesnt really hurt it order-wise(G:jumper shenanigans!) if i go first.

-haqq is scary.  i think Erik would probably kill the marut next turn with all the tools he had to deal with it.  i probably should have gone with the more variety list... *shrugs*

-dakini with suppressive fire is something i should do pretty much every game.  2 dakini plus machaon in suppressive i mean most things are hitting very low against them in cover!

-yes you can have 11 order group with strategos.  Erik thought i was cheating(although i always do so fair enough haha).

-this game an be very fickle due to dice rolls.  felt like my strategy wasnt really any better than my last time but my dice were waaaay hotter!

-also, what a big difference having achievable classifieds.  i was wracking them up this time which was nice!

-i forgot garuda in both my first games.  both times i mean its kind of cause i didnt see much usage of bringing him on BUT brian pointed out it counts for vic points if you dont bring him on so i took hits there!  that was pretty stupid on my part.  i was also going to bring garuda on 2nd turn against erik but who knows how that would turn out.  

-overall had a blast.  felt bad for brian as luck was not going his way that game.  will just had a terrible matchup really as once i killed the missile launcher and dog he had no way to really deal with that marut effectively.  for erik, im excited to play against him again sometime.  we had a good game going i felt even though i think he would beat me on vic points i think i could have achieved some more objectives(maybe lol)!

-i think i ended up with ~16 points which is more than my last two tournaments combined so that was a huuge achievement on my part!

Thanks George for running it.  you guys are all hilarious and fun to hangout with.

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trying to decide whether to take steel or vanilla to rampage... although it might be moot if i get this job as ill be working weekends........ the steel list is very order efficient and is probably VERY scary to face against first turn!  2x8 order lists with link teams in both.  i tried to even out the scary factor as much as possible between the groups to make it a tougher decision for my opponent to shed 2 orders from.  you can either take pheonix's group down or thrasymedes and scyllas group. thats kind of a tough call as you dont want thrasymedes or scylla to get too close as they are much better in close quarters, but pheonix is very scary offensively and defensively.  had some bad fortune my first two games with the list so im not really writing it off as 'bad' but more bad play(as in forgetting about moving scylla first turn) and inexperience with the list in general.  feel like im not using my command tokens as much because there's very few instances to use command tokens with the list as coordinated orders will be rare.    my reasoning for using steel for rampage is simple:  a few scenerios significantly favor order spam lists and every scenerio i played with vanilla i felt like i was at a disadvantage facing against pan-o which can spam fusiliers and whatnot for objectives while having their scary pieces.  you can have 4 fusiliers/alguaciles, etc for the price of 3 dakini... and dakini cant link lol.  the reasoning for vanilla is the variety factor.  it doesnt seem to have that 'one button' feel of steel.  i feel its difficult to out-wit your opponent with steel in comparison to the tools that vanilla give you.  but i think the order efficiency is really a hard thing to ignore for the scenerios so ill probably go with the steel list... means i need to get on painting lol.

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Your steel list is amazing, and should do well in most games.  The only reason I was able to make up points is because you had so much exposed at the end of turn one, making it easier for me to maximize kills with what was left of my army (and it wasn't much!).  You can be as killy and order-effective as you want, but I would still try to end the turn with those valuable links in better cover.   On the other hand, I'm happy to have more games where we both blow each others' armies completely to hell.

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Your steel list is amazing, and should do well in most games.  The only reason I was able to make up points is because you had so much exposed at the end of turn one, making it easier for me to maximize kills with what was left of my army (and it wasn't much!).  You can be as killy and order-effective as you want, but I would still try to end the turn with those valuable links in better cover.   On the other hand, I'm happy to have more games where we both blow each others' armies completely to hell.

yes scylla was my biggest mistake.  i even said so during my turn that i thought she was in the other group lol whoops!  i put her there cause i planned on moving her.  i didnt plan on wasting so many orders with the thors due to crap rolls.  thrasymedes has yet to impress me... also didnt plan on pheonix dying to an aro crit.  i couldnt seem to kill anything, besides the TR bot shockingly(it took 2 orders for bro k right?), with one order.  that was the issue... as many things as those units killed their potential to wreck is actually higher which is scary lol.  my goal was to get the myrmidons 8 more inches up (in chain rifle destruction zone) but just couldnt get order efficiency down!  as i said its why i like vanilla a lot more because im better at changing plans with vanilla(lots of different tools!)... ill get it down someday lol.  i think im done playing just 'kill' missions.  missions are much more interesting to me..

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yea you as well bud with the MO.  going small and not going knight heavy is quite effective against general aleph/steel.  TO spec sergs are baller.  the diversity in MO sectional is AMAZING.  you can choose who you want to go knight against and then who you want to spread out msv2/TO order sergs against.  very amazing diversity there!  its kinda why i use a TAG in one of my lists and then have my generic list.  the funny thing is, even though people plea 'there are no matchup issues in infinity', i think our two lists style have hilariously good/bad matchups.  think the marut list does amazingly against the order serg list(curious, how do you deal with a TAG with that type of list?) but knights are a knightmare for it!  while vice versa for my other list lol.  

i will say im OK with vanilla... not so good with steel lol. ive only played i think 3 games with steel though so that will just take time.  they play quite differently than aleph.  i cant play as 'scrappy' as i can with steel i feel as i do with vanilla.  very unforgiving for mistakes/dice so its something i gotta change my mindset on!

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