JMGraham Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Anyone have any suggestions for good links to discussions/articles/what-have-you of general 40k tactics? I ask, because most "tactica" I read are unit based - they just describe what a specific unit does, and what battlefield roles for which that unit might be suited. That's all good and well for familiarizing myself with what other armies can do, but doesn't really help me expand my strategic and tactical options. I miss the days where I could read articles on Warhammer Fantasy that got me to think about the game in new ways - tactics that focused more on unit positioning, mutual support, battlefield movements, using sacrificial units as bait, and the like. I've got my own ideas of how to do a lot of things like that in 40k, but I always enjoy reading other folks ideas, as well. Any suggestions? Favorite posts or articles you've read? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Backlog stuff on 3++ is the new black is great IMO. The minutia of movement in 40k is what separates the winners from the also rans and any article about deployment and movement strategies is gold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalmer Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Mr. Graham, When I was way into 40k and the tournament scene back in the day I would also formulate a strategic plan, flesh out what tactics would support this strategic plan, and then come heck or high water just play some games with those tactics. I wouldn't play to win, I'd play just to basically field test those particular tactics. Gained a lot of insight as to the particulars of my army's strengths, shortcomings and synergies. Obviously that's when I was playing a ton. Some real-world tactical applications also apply in the miniature world as well (i.e. kill boxes, fire lanes, forcing their movement, threat prioritization, etc.) so if you ever want to just discuss real-world stuff to see if it can help with your tactical conceptualization, I'd be happy to help. Stay safe, don 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 In general, I've found there are 3 40k tacticas players use. 1) they plan a way to win and execute it. 2) they plan to react to the opponent's plan. This one can be bad against opponents with the same tactica. 3) they plan to cheat. Or otherwise play dishonestly. TACT lists work on the #2 plan the best. Super specialized armies go with #1. Cheaters can win with any list, but it's a hollow victory. EDIT: Players often combine these methods, but tend to focus their efforts on one, with lesser shades of the others. I tend to play #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMGraham Posted October 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Cool, I'll check out 3++! Don, I feel like I have a good grip on a lot of general historical/medieval tactics that are applicable to fantasy games (and also do well in other games), but a lot of those modern terms aren't one's with which I'm familiar. I'd love to chat sometime! Any suggestions for some good modern real-world tactics readings in the meantime? I reckon it would help my Infinity, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 http://40kunorthodoxy.blogspot.com/2014/06/null-deployment-7th-edition.html http://40kunorthodoxy.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-domino-dance-and-what-it-teaches.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato Sicarius Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 I like 1d4chan.com. I like the crowdsourced, casual language approach to determining the usefulness of a unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 In general, I've found there are 3 40k tacticas players use. 1) they plan a way to win and execute it. 2) they plan to react to the opponent's plan. This one can be bad against opponents with the same tactica. 3) they plan to cheat. Or otherwise play dishonestly. TACT lists work on the #2 plan the best. Super specialized armies go with #1. Cheaters can win with any list, but it's a hollow victory. EDIT: Players often combine these methods, but tend to focus their efforts on one, with lesser shades of the others. I tend to play #2. lol wot? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 lol wot? A list of the tacticas for 40k players. Not so much for 40k armies, but that's how players play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. Bigglesworth Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 A list of the tacticas for 40k players. Not so much for 40k armies, but that's how players play. Lol, I don't think so. Op was asking for in depth online sources to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 If you read from Lord Hanaur and you read from Abusepuppy enough you'll come up with very different views on how to play the game. My advice? Just don't use Empire Archer Detachments, they are terrible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indytims Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 My advice? Just don't use Empire Archer Detachments, they are terrible. And pass on Storm Guardians. Seriously! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 New blog just went up. Also working on a blog concerning Wierdboyz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMGraham Posted October 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Cool, thanks all! Looking forward to some reading. My advice? Just don't use Empire Archer Detachments, they are terrible. Give me a handful of Empire Archer Detachments and I'll conquer the world. 6/7th Ed. WHFB rules! Lol, I don't think so. Op was asking for in depth online sources to read. Yup. Not sure where you were going, Pax, but that wasn't really what I was looking for. More detailed non-unit based tactica rather than: plan/react/cheat. I don't care about cheating (or, at least, don't care to cheat), but want to read some thoughtful comments on the plan/react side of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Give me a handful of Empire Archer Detachments and I'll conquer the world. 6/7th Ed. WHFB rules! THAT is certainly true. Though, the power creep from VC through Lizardmen was just upsetting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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