dragons_lair04

Thanks for the advice guys, I am fine tuning the list and I believe I am close to a final draft. Here are some of the ideas I have about some things in my army. I really like the idea of the horror or wraith champ being Mr lucky, I was thinking grave guard but the reasons given by Drak make me believe one of the former would be a better choice. As for my lord, I know he is a glass hammer. He will hit hard but can easily be taken out. I have some upgrades on him to help survive the cc fights but he will be a big target for war machines for which he has pretty much no defense against (as well as high str. cc atacks). I really like the idea of Red Fury, I know it makes him tough but I don't think it makes him OP. If the powers that be think otherwise I can replace it with something else as I am not overly attached to anything in the list. I am still a little lost on what is considered "characters" for the Sword of Anti Heroes (do unit champions count as "characters" or is it just Heroes and Lords). The corpse cart is set up to cast DM on itself with the book to help keep up with the rest of the army and to boost my core troops with ASF. This will help with those pesky elves (as well as the ASL from the Shroud on the lord). Just my ideas for the army, as always any feed back and suggestions for the list is appreciated. Ok, made some more minor changes. The changes are: removed the iron curse icon from the lord, dropped the doom wolves, removed the infested upgrade from terrorgheist, increased the size of the grave guard unit to 27. Here is the current incarnation of the list. Total Roster Cost: 2798 Vampire Lord 1 Vampire Lord + Level 3 Upgrade + Heavy Armour + Shield 1 Zombie Dragon 1 Sword of Anti Heroes 1 Nightshroud 1 Red Fury 1 Fear Incarnate Wight King 1 Wight King (Battle Standard Bearer) + Shield + Battle Standard Bearer 1 Wailing Banner Necromancer 1 Necromancer + Master of the Dead + Level 2 Upgrade 1 Corpse Cart + Balefire 1 Book of Arkhan Zombie Horde (40) 40 Zombies + Musician Mus + Standard Bearer Std Skeleton Warriors (30) 29 Skeleton Warriors + Musician Mus + Standard Bearer Std 1 Skeleton Champion Crypt Ghouls (30) 29 Crypt Ghouls 1 Crypt Ghast Dire Wolves (5) 5 Dire Wolves Dire Wolves (5) 5 Dire Wolves Hexwraiths (5) 4 Hexwraiths 1 Hellwraith Grave Guard (27) 26 Grave Guard + Musician Mus + Standard Bearer Std 1 Seneschal 1 The Banner of the Barrows Crypt Horrors (6) 5 Crypt Horrors 1 Crypt Haunter Terrorgheist 1 Terrorgheist

I am making some changes to my list please let me know if you think this might make things better or worse. I am trying to make a better list but am wanting to keep the power level to a rating of about 3 for the event (I know ratings are a touchy subject for some but not for me I just want to make a good balanced list). So here are some of the changes: Changed the items on the dragon lord (what qualifies as a "character" for the purpose of the Sword of Anti Heroes), changed out the vampire bsb for a wight lord bsb, changed the banner on the bsb, changed the items on the necromancer on the cart, added more grave guard and changed their banner, added champions to the dire wolves and crypt horrors. I am also thinking of dropping the Hexwraiths and replacing them with a unit of 3 Vargheists with a champ (make a beasty theamed list). I am also thinking of dropping some of the champions out of my units to increase the size of the Graveguard unit to 29. Also what is your opinion on poisoned attacks on the Terrorgheist. Here is the current list, as always opinions and advice is welcome. (some concerns I have are there are only 2 lore of vampires characters in the army and that is risky for crumble, vamp lord might be too easy to kill, I might have too many points tied up in unit champions) Total Roster Cost: 2800 Vampire Lord 1 Vampire Lord + Level 3 Upgrade + Heavy Armour + Shield 1 Zombie Dragon 1 Sword of Anti Heroes 1 Nightshroud 1 Ironcurse Icon 1 Fear Incarnate 1 Red Fury Wight King 1 Wight King (Battle Standard Bearer) + Shield + Battle Standard Bearer 1 Wailing Banner Necromancer 1 Necromancer + Master of the Dead + Level 2 Upgrade 1 Corpse Cart + Balefire 1 Book of Arkhan Zombie Horde 40 40 Zombies + Musician Mus + Standard Bearer Std Skeleton Warriors (30) 29 Skeleton Warriors + Musician Mus + Standard Bearer Std 1 Skeleton Champion Crypt Ghouls (30) 29 Crypt Ghouls 1 Crypt Ghast Dire Wolves (5) 4 Dire Wolves 1 Doom Wolf Dire Wolves (5) 4 Dire Wolves 1 Doom Wolf Hexwraiths (5) 4 Hexwraiths 1 Hellwraith Grave Guard (24) 23 Grave Guard + Musician Mus + Standard Bearer Std 1 Seneschal 1 The Banner of the Barrows Crypt Horrors (6) 5 Crypt Horrors 1 Crypt Haunter Terrorgheist (1) 1 Terrorgheist + Infested

This will be my first time going to OFCC as a player and I would like some feedback on my Vampire Counts lists. I have made two of them, I kind of like the second one more. Please let me know what you think of the lists and any suggestions for changes that would make them better will be appreciated. The first list: Total Roster Cost: 2795 Vampire Lord 1 Vampire Lord + Heavy Armour + Shield 1 Zombie Dragon 1 Sword of Bloodshed 1 Nightshroud 1 Red Fury Necromancer 1 Necromancer + Master of the Dead + Level 2 Upgrade 1 Corpse Cart 1 Dispel Scroll Vampire 1 Vampire (Battle Standard Bearer) + Level 2 Upgrade + Heavy Armour + Shield + Battle Standard Bearer 1 The Banner of the Barrows 1 Supernatural Horror 1 Beguile Necromancer 1 Necromancer + Level 2 Upgrade 1 Staff of Sorcery Zombie Horde (40) 40 Zombies Skeleton Warriors (30) 29 Skeleton Warriors + Musician Mus + Standard Bearer Std 1 Skeleton Champion, 15 pts Crypt Ghouls (20) 19 Crypt Ghouls 1 Crypt Ghast Crypt Ghouls (20) 19 Crypt Ghouls 1 Crypt Ghast Hexwraiths (5) 5 Hexwraiths Grave Guard (19) 18 Grave Guard + Great Weapon + Musician Mus + Standard Bearer Std 1 Seneschal 1 War Banner Crypt Horrors (4) 4 Crypt Horrors Terrorgheist (1) 1 Terrorgheist The second list: Total Roster Cost: 2796 Vampire Lord 1 Vampire Lord + Level 2 Upgrade + Heavy Armour + Shield 1 Zombie Dragon 1 Sword of Bloodshed 1 Nightshroud 1 Red Fury 1 Fear Incarnate Necromancer 1 Necromancer + Master of the Dead + Level 2 Upgrade 1 Corpse Cart + Balefire 15 1 Dispel Scroll Vampire 1 Vampire (Battle Standard Bearer) + Level 2 Upgrade + Heavy Armour + Shield + Battle Standard Bearer 1 The Banner of the Barrows 1 Supernatural Horror 1 Beguile Zombie Horde (40) 40 Zombies + Musician Mus + Standard Bearer Std Skeleton Warriors (30) 29 Skeleton Warriors+ Musician Mus + Standard Bearer Std 1 Skeleton Champion Crypt Ghouls (30) 29 Crypt Ghouls 1 Crypt Ghast Dire Wolves (5) 5 Dire Wolves Dire Wolves (5) 5 Dire Wolves Hexwraiths (5) 5 Hexwraiths Grave Guard (19) 18 Grave Guard + Great Weapon + Musician Mus + Standard Bearer Std 1 Seneschal 1 War Banner Crypt Horrors (6) 6 Crypt Horrors Terrorgheist (1) 1 Terrorgheist + Infested

This will be my first time going to OFCC as a player and I would like some feedback on my Vampire Counts lists. I have made two of them, I kind of like the second one more. Please let me know what you think of the lists and any suggestions for changes that would make them better will be appreciated. The first list: Total Roster Cost: 2795 Vampire Lord 1 Vampire Lord + Heavy Armour + Shield 1 Zombie Dragon 1 Sword of Bloodshed 1 Nightshroud 1 Red Fury Necromancer 1 Necromancer + Master of the Dead + Level 2 Upgrade 1 Corpse Cart 1 Dispel Scroll Vampire 1 Vampire (Battle Standard Bearer) + Level 2 Upgrade + Heavy Armour + Shield + Battle Standard Bearer 1 The Banner of the Barrows 1 Supernatural Horror 1 Beguile Necromancer 1 Necromancer + Level 2 Upgrade 1 Staff of Sorcery Zombie Horde (40) 40 Zombies Skeleton Warriors (30) 29 Skeleton Warriors + Musician Mus + Standard Bearer Std 1 Skeleton Champion, 15 pts Crypt Ghouls (20) 19 Crypt Ghouls 1 Crypt Ghast Crypt Ghouls (20) 19 Crypt Ghouls 1 Crypt Ghast Hexwraiths (5) 5 Hexwraiths Grave Guard (19) 18 Grave Guard + Great Weapon + Musician Mus + Standard Bearer Std 1 Seneschal 1 War Banner Crypt Horrors (4) 4 Crypt Horrors Terrorgheist (1) 1 Terrorgheist The second list: Total Roster Cost: 2796 Vampire Lord 1 Vampire Lord + Level 2 Upgrade + Heavy Armour + Shield 1 Zombie Dragon 1 Sword of Bloodshed 1 Nightshroud 1 Red Fury 1 Fear Incarnate Necromancer 1 Necromancer + Master of the Dead + Level 2 Upgrade 1 Corpse Cart + Balefire 15 1 Dispel Scroll Vampire 1 Vampire (Battle Standard Bearer) + Level 2 Upgrade + Heavy Armour + Shield + Battle Standard Bearer 1 The Banner of the Barrows 1 Supernatural Horror 1 Beguile Zombie Horde (40) 40 Zombies + Musician Mus + Standard Bearer Std Skeleton Warriors (30) 29 Skeleton Warriors+ Musician Mus + Standard Bearer Std 1 Skeleton Champion Crypt Ghouls (30) 29 Crypt Ghouls 1 Crypt Ghast Dire Wolves (5) 5 Dire Wolves Dire Wolves (5) 5 Dire Wolves Hexwraiths (5) 5 Hexwraiths Grave Guard (19) 18 Grave Guard + Great Weapon + Musician Mus + Standard Bearer Std 1 Seneschal 1 War Banner Crypt Horrors (6) 6 Crypt Horrors Terrorgheist (1) 1 Terrorgheist + Infested