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HQ - Pask in LR Punisher - LR Demolisher - 2x priest - 2x psyker Troops Platoon 1 -PCS w Heavy flamer and 3x flamers -Infantry w/ power Axe and melta bombs -Infantry w/ power Axe and melta bombs -Infantry w/ power Axe and melta bombs Platoon 2 -PCS -Infantry w/ power Axe and melta bombs -Infantry w/ power Axe and melta bombs -Infantry w/ power Axe and melta bombs - Veterans w 3x Melta Fast Attack - Armored Sentinel w/lascannon x3 - Armored Sentinel w/autocannon x3 - Valkyrie w MRP x2 Heavy Support -LR Battle Tank -LR Executioner 1985 points. I dropped a vet squad and HWS in place of an extra tank and 3 autocannon sentinels. Seems like it's both more versatile and redundant.

Reworked it and looks like this: HQ - Pask in Punisher - 2x Executioners w/ MM sponsors - 2x priest - 2x psyker Troops Platoon 1 -PCS -Infantry w/ power Axe and melta bombs -Infantry w/ power Axe and melta bombs -Infantry w/ power Axe and melta bombs -HWS w 3x lascannons Platoon 2 -PCS -Infantry w/ power Axe and melta bombs -Infantry w/ power Axe and melta bombs -Infantry w/ power Axe and melta bombs -HWS w 3x lascannons - Veterans w 3x Melta - Veterans w 3x Melta Fast Attack - Armored Sentinel w/lascannon x3 - Valkyrie w MRP x2 2000 points on the nose Melta vets go in valkyries Could trade those HWS lascannons for autocannons to free up some points. Do I have enough anti-air?

What's a good troop choice to put in a Valkyrie? Plasma or melta vets? Gonna have to rework this. I'm new to IG and 6th, bear with me :)

Edited** Looking at getting some AM models and crunching out some lists. Here is what I'm thinking about: HQ - Yarrick - Pask in Punisher 2 Executioners w/ multi-melta sponsons - Psyker x2 - Priest x3 Troops -Platoon Platoon command squad Infantry Squad w power Axe Infantry Squad w power Axe Infantry Squad w power Axe -Veterans w lascannon and forward sentries -Veterans w lascannon and forward sentries Fast Attack -armored sentinel w lascannon -armored sentinel w lascannon -armored sentinel w lascannon - Valkyrie w lascannon - Valkyrie w lascannon Heavy Support - Wyvern x 3 -Aegis Defence Line w/ Quad Gun 2000 points Vets and PCS hide behind aegis w/a psyker. A priest goes into each blob. Yarrick goes with a blob and may be embarked in a vendetta if necessary. Are the wyverns and pask w punisher overkill for anti-infantry? Do I have enough scoring and should I be concerned with weak leadership stats on my blobs? Thinking of dropping wyverns and sentinels for another Russ Squadron

Clear your PMs, I can't message you. I'll take it!

Some hang back while others advance. So like a few squads of fire warriors and a couple of broadsides?

Also considering Tau allies. They seem to have a decent amount of reliable anti armor. What tau units compliment bikers well? I haven't looked at the new Tau codex yet.

So you're saying that to combat Super Heavies, I need more reliable anti-armor? I haven't heard about escalation yet. That's allowing superheavies in non apocalypse games? If I were to scrap the three flyers, what other anti-armor And anti-flyer options are efficient for SM?

Here is my first list attempt: HQ Khan on bike Troops 4x units of 8 space marine bikers w/ grav-gun, veteran sergeant w/ powerfist, plus attack bike w/ MultiMelta Heavy Support Thunder fire cannon Thunder fire cannon Storm wing dataslate (2x stock storm talons and a stock storm raven) If my math is right, that all come out to 1942 points. Thats 36 bikes. I realize the thunder fire cannons are a bit isolated. And all three flyers come in on one reserve roll. Crazy! How's it look?

So I've been costing some things, reading a bit and figuring out what I want for a WS biker army. I figure the army will be based around Khan and 4 full units of bikers. To support this, I'm looking toward the following: 2x thunder fire cannons 2x stormtalon gunships 1 x stormraven with a tactical squad And possible extra HQ Do any of these options compliment bikers well? Should I go a different route? Allies? I want to build 1000-2000 point lists.

Okay, thinking of running vanilla SM bikers as white scars. What sort of support do I need? Thunderfire cannons? Stormraven? What compliments the marine biker army well? Ally's? Seems its gonna be near a $500,investment all told, unless I can find used bikers, which seem unlikely.

Marine bikers running from codex marines ala white scars? Just buy a ton of Dark vengeance bikers? How many to field an effective army?

Wow, thanks for the info! What about the new tau dex. In comparison to vanilla marines, more shooty and less assault options?

I mean, whats the general strengths/ weaknesses of each marine codex in relation to each other?

What sets vanilla marines apart from DA, GK, BA etc?

And what about dark angels? They get no love?

I'm confused, aren't those for apocalypse, not standard 40k?

I am starting from scratch.

What should I be looking to spend on a tau/sm ally or sm/ tau Ally force?

I left 40k a month or so before 6th edition came out and I'm interested in getting back into the hobby. Can anyone recommend a good starter army for 6th? I played Blood Angels, Orks and Tau in 5th. I'm mostly interested in some form of Marines, and Tau. The most bang for my buck is consideration as I don't want to spend more than $250-300 for a viable 2000ish point army if possible. Are there stand-out stronger armies? Or are the newest codices generally the stronger armies?

I'd be stoked to get a group of ten or so together for a booster draft of some sort.

Yea. Cash is talking here, of course. Whatve you got ghrom? Scott. I don't have much in the way of trade. Cash works tho, right?

Anyone got a box of old cards they're looking to get rid of? Anyone even playbthis game anymore or ever heard of it? It was a favorite of mine back in the day. Looking to get some cards to play around with.