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Ok so after some retooling (don't have point totals) but thinking along these lines... Spirit seer with shard Warlock council x4 on bikes 1 singing spear Fire dragons with exarch wave serpent tl ML Bikes x5 Bikes x5 Bikes x5 Wraithguard x5 with dscythes in wave serpent tl bright lance Hemlock wraithfighter Wraith knight Fire prism Fire prism Let me know what you think of that?

Thanks for the suggestions guys I appreciate them and from what in gathering wraithblades aren't the way to go, and the fliers are a toss up... Only problem with the lists I'm seeing the tournament I'm entering is only 1850, just keep that in mind when making suggestions. Thanks again guys, been really helpful!

I have any model that would need to be added... I have about 10k word of elder to play with,,, just hard making something I think would work against any and all takers is the thing.

Close enough for me to let them rapin fire that is

There's 4 scoring units in the list because of the wraithguard/ wraithblades... A lot if people are down playing the wraithblades, but without them I have no close combat in the army... Banshees have less survivability, bike units are cheap but easier to wound, same with guardians and dire avengers for that matter... They may be expensive points wise but the toughness value higher normal bolsters wound on a 5+. So a squad of 10 marines shoot 10 bolters rapid fire, that about 12 hits, wounding on 5s that's 4 wounds... I may fail 1 but they're fearless so they don't run even if I have crap rolls... And this is all dependent on me letting them get that close... I have confidence in the wraith units... Fire prism have the anti troop / tank shots, fire dragons are just awesome, the wraithfighter as long as I'm not stupid should survive the game since I can out manouver just about anything as long as I pay attention... But yeah those are my justifications for why I chose some of the units I did

The wraithblades and guard are more durable scoring units that the guardians or dire avengers in my opinion, stick a spirit seer with the blades basically a cc unit with the runes from seer... The hemlock, I like the fear ability and the distort weapons, I tend to roll good :-)

First off long time no see for a lot of people on here, how's everyone doing? Ok so I've been away from 40k since the onset of 5th edition and curious if this list I made is viable for tournaments... Spirit seer, battle runes, shard of anaris Fire dragons x 5 with exarch in wave serpent with tl BL, shuriken cannon holo fields/ spirit stones Wraithguard x 5 wave serpent with tl ML holo fields/ spirit stones Wraithblades x5 with axes/ shields with wave serpent with tl star cannon holo fields/ spirit stones Guardian jet bikes x 5 Guardian defenders x10 with BL platform Hemlock Wraith fighter Warp spiders x 5 with exarch with power blades and tl death spinner Fire prism x2 with holo fields and spirit stones Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks