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Sorry guys, I won't be there this week. Doin' the CK Studios Air Brush class all weekend. Have fun!

On 2/15/2019 at 3:56 PM, Brandon said:

That would be awesome. Thanks!

All right man. Sounds like no league games so me and you!

How many points you got (i could care less about primed and wysiwyg)? Need me to bring any supplements?

Good luck and have fun. Can't wait to hear how it goes.

2 or 3 thoughts.

1. Lyraeus. Bummer, I was looking forward to a 1,500 rematch and you teaching me ITC. Ah well, good luck man!

2. Brandon, I can totally either play a 500 point game after a league game with you, or maybe loan you some "red space marines" to add to your army. Won't but optomized, but an option...?...

Not sure anyone else is gunna make it due to tournament. I'm really up for whatever, but if I can get a league game in that would be ideal (with a small game after?).

I will be there lookin for this weeks league game. Who's taking?

I actually don't deep strike much, but definately worth knowing and keeping an eye on. Thanks!

33 minutes ago, paxmiles said:

I like the list. Only thing missing is an indirect fire option. A whirlwind, or something of that nature. Really helps if the opponent can't hide behind things.

Thanks. 

So my thought (hope) is that what I'm lacking in indirect fire I make up for with mobility. Almost everything has a jump pack and when I get to 2,000 I have stuff deep striking and moving with strategums nearly any where on the board. Goal is that there will be nobwhere to hide...?...

(Smash)Captain Raine, initially duped by inaccurate readings from the (snow)warp storm, is quickly assembling the Indomitus Bastards to continue the charge forward. More ork scalps shall be claimed!

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Blood Angels) [89 PL, -1CP, 1248pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot [-1CP] +

Armoury of Baal [-1CP]: 1 additional Relic of Baal [-1CP]

+ HQ [14 PL, 284pts] +

Captain [6 PL, 124pts]: 5. Gift of Foresight, Jump Pack [1 PL, 19pts], Storm shield [10pts], The Angel's Wing (replaces jump pack), Thunder hammer [21pts], Warlord

Chief Librarian Mephiston [8 PL, 160pts]: 1. Quickening, 2. Unleash Rage, 6. Wings of Sanguinus

+ Troops [12 PL, 190pts] +

Scout Squad [4 PL, 80pts]
. Scout [16pts]: Camo cloak [3pts], Sniper rifle [2pts]
. Scout [16pts]: Camo cloak [3pts], Sniper rifle [2pts]
. Scout [16pts]: Camo cloak [3pts], Sniper rifle [2pts]
. Scout [16pts]: Camo cloak [3pts], Sniper rifle [2pts]
. Scout Sergeant [16pts]: Bolt pistol, Camo cloak [3pts], Sniper rifle [2pts]

Scout Squad [4 PL, 55pts]
. Scout [11pts]: Combat knife
. Scout [11pts]: Combat knife
. Scout [11pts]: Combat knife
. Scout [11pts]: Combat knife
. Scout Sergeant [11pts]: Bolt pistol, Chainsword

Scout Squad [4 PL, 55pts]
. Scout [11pts]: Astartes shotgun
. Scout [11pts]: Astartes shotgun
. Scout [11pts]: Astartes shotgun
. Scout [11pts]: Astartes shotgun
. Scout Sergeant [11pts]: Bolt pistol, Chainsword

+ Elites [43 PL, 504pts] +

Company Ancient [5 PL, 72pts]: Boltgun, Jump Pack [1 PL, 9pts], Standard of Sacrifice

Death Company [18 PL, 222pts]: Jump Pack [2 PL, 30pts]
. Death Company Marine [18pts]: Chainsword, Hand flamer [1pts]
. Death Company Marine [18pts]: Chainsword, Hand flamer [1pts]
. Death Company Marine [18pts]: Chainsword, Hand flamer [1pts]
. Death Company Marine [18pts]: Chainsword, Hand flamer [1pts]
. Death Company Marine [18pts]: Chainsword, Hand flamer [1pts]
. Death Company Marine [18pts]: Chainsword, Hand flamer [1pts]
. Death Company Marine [18pts]: Chainsword, Hand flamer [1pts]
. Death Company Marine [18pts]: Chainsword, Hand flamer [1pts]
. Death Company Marine [24pts]: Chainsword, Inferno pistol [7pts]
. Death Company Marine [24pts]: Chainsword, Inferno pistol [7pts]

Sanguinary Guard [20 PL, 210pts]: Death mask [12pts]
. Sanguinary Guard [35pts]: Angelus boltgun [3pts], Encarmine sword [12pts]
. Sanguinary Guard [35pts]: Angelus boltgun [3pts], Encarmine sword [12pts]
. Sanguinary Guard [32pts]: Angelus boltgun [3pts], Power fist [9pts]
. Sanguinary Guard [32pts]: Angelus boltgun [3pts], Power fist [9pts]
. Sanguinary Guard [32pts]: Angelus boltgun [3pts], Power fist [9pts]
. Sanguinary Guard [32pts]: Angelus boltgun [3pts], Power fist [9pts]

+ Fast Attack [20 PL, 270pts] +

Inceptor Squad [20 PL, 270pts]: 5x Inceptor [125pts], Inceptor Sergeant [25pts]
. Two assault bolters [120pts]: 2x Assault bolter [120pts]

++ Total: [89 PL, -1CP, 1248pts] ++

I'll be there at 3!

Posting my list in a few.

I will be there!

I'm looking for this week and maybe a make up of week 3 if anyone else is looking too...?...

Lets do the week 4 game and we should have time so if no one else is there I can do a make up of week 2 with ya. 

I'll be there for 1,000 point escalation game(s). Week 3 or 4, depending on what others need. 

This weeks list (think I figured formatting out!!!). I will be there Sunday, looking to get week 4 in and possibly make up week 3 if anyone's looking.

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Blood Angels) [73 PL, 997pts] ++

+ HQ +

Captain [6 PL, 124pts]: 5. Gift of Foresight, Jump Pack, Storm shield, The Angel's Wing (replaces jump pack), Thunder hammer, Warlord

Chief Librarian Mephiston [8 PL, 160pts]: 1. Quickening, 2. Unleash Rage, 6. Wings of Sanguinus

+ Troops +

Scout Squad [4 PL, 80pts]
. Scout: Camo cloak, Sniper rifle
. Scout: Camo cloak, Sniper rifle
. Scout: Camo cloak, Sniper rifle
. Scout: Camo cloak, Sniper rifle
. Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Camo cloak, Sniper rifle

Scout Squad [4 PL, 55pts]
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

Scout Squad [4 PL, 55pts]
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout: Boltgun
. Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

+ Elites +

Death Company [27 PL, 276pts]: Jump Pack
. Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Hand flamer
. Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Hand flamer
. Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Hand flamer
. Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Hand flamer
. Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Hand flamer
. Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Hand flamer
. Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Hand flamer
. Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Hand flamer
. Death Company Marine: Thunder hammer
. Death Company Marine: Thunder hammer
. Death Company Marine: Thunder hammer

Sanguinary Guard [20 PL, 247pts]: Death mask
. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword
. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword
. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword
. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist
. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist
. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist
. Sanguinary Guard: Angelus boltgun, Power fist

++ Total: [73 PL, 997pts] ++

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The tournament is on a Saturday! Oh no. I totally assumed it would be on a Sunday and I can't make it now. Good grief, I was looking forward to meeting the Tuesday crowd...

Well, my unput (which now only kinda matters) is that points don't matter one way or the other, but I like the idea of maybe adding some ITC aspects/elements along the way to get more comfortable. 

I do, and I really like it. I'm on episode 40 or so, so a little catching up to do, but not too far back. 

That being said, I do not have any interest in a blood angels/guard/knight list, so I've had a hard time taking a ton of advice because that has been his focus (so far at least). 

Ok, a few thoughts. 

1. Secondary objectives. Think I'd be looking at ones where you get into opponents zone and different killing ones. So I think I'm in decent shape there.

2. Cp's is the other thing I'm worried about. I'd be starting with 8 and a plan to use 2 to get death company in opponents face right away. Cp's to split a unit in game just ain't gunna be there (i get pre game it's free). As far as needing to fill out another detachment, not enough points to do that, so I fave flexibility. 

3. Yeah, currently if I run pure Blood Angels I run Sanguinary Guard and Death Company , and two Battalions (3 scouts in one, 3 intercessors in the other). I just really like the jet bikes and wanna try and figure out if I can make them work.

Thanks again for the thoughts.

Thanks for the thought!

Yeah, I haven't played a single ITC mission yet, but objectives were my concern. And agreed, death company will be getting zero objectives for me. 

10 man intercessor, or two five mans?

What about vanguard vets with jump packs (for mobility) and storm shields (for survivability)? With the points I have I could do 10 vanguard vets, all with jump packs, 5 with chain sword and storm shield and five with dual chainswords. 

So I am thinking of building towards the following list, with the idea that when (plastic) Sisters come out I would have 3 lists to mix ajd match from (Blood Angels, Custodes and Sisters). Thoughts on this list (I'm new to list building and trying to learn, don't want to just net list)? Also, I got about 180 points left, suggestions on what to do with it?

ALSO, I'm getting some of these jetbikes on the cheap via ebay. Anyone have the 75mm bases they'd be willing to part with?

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Blood Angels) [53 PL, 858pts] ++

+ HQ + Captain [6 PL, 124pts]: 5. Gift of Foresight, Jump Pack, Storm shield, The Angel's Wing (replaces jump pack), Thunder hammer, Warlord

Chief Librarian Mephiston [8 PL, 160pts] + Troops + Scout Squad [4 PL, 80pts] .

Scout: Camo cloak, Sniper rifle .

Scout: Camo cloak, Sniper rifle .

Scout: Camo cloak, Sniper rifle .

Scout: Camo cloak, Sniper rifle .

Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Camo cloak, Sniper rifle

Scout Squad [4 PL, 55pts] .

Scout: Boltgun . Scout: Boltgun . Scout: Boltgun . Scout: Boltgun . Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

Scout Squad [4 PL, 55pts] . Scout: Astartes shotgun . Scout: Astartes shotgun . Scout: Astartes shotgun . Scout: Astartes shotgun . Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Chainsword + Elites

+ Death Company [27 PL, 384pts]: Jump Pack . Death Company Marine: Thunder hammer . Death Company Marine: Thunder hammer . Death Company Marine: Thunder hammer . Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Inferno pistol . Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Inferno pistol . Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Inferno pistol . Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Inferno pistol . Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Hand flamer . Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Hand flamer . Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Hand flamer . Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Hand flamer . Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Hand flamer . Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Hand flamer . Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Hand flamer . Death Company Marine: Chainsword, Hand flamer

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP

(Imperium - Adeptus Custodes) [54 PL, 970pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Open the Vaults (1 Relic)

+ HQ + Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [9 PL, 160pts]: Auric Aquilis, Hurricane Bolter + Fast Attack

+ Vertus Praetors [15 PL, 270pts] . Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter . Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter . Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter

Vertus Praetors [15 PL, 270pts] . Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter . Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter . Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter

Vertus Praetors [15 PL, 270pts] . Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter . Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter . Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter ++

Total: [107 PL, 1828pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)

(Sorry about formatting, I'll figure it out at some point...)

There we go. Thank you. I knew it was too good to be true.

So am I correct that this will also apply to Custodes Vertus Preators? 

I've been debating doing a Outrider Detachment of them to go with some Blood Angels stuff and if I'm reading this right it may be what pushess me over the edge!

That looks great!

Captain Raine can't wait to jump onto the back of it and hammer her to the ground!

"You know, fightin' in a basement offers a lot of difficulties. Number one being, you're fightin' in a basement!"

I feel like it may be missing volume of attacks? 

What about inceptors? S5 AP-1 D1. With three 2 wound units you get 18 shots at 18 inch range. 

Aggressors are another thought. 

Just talking out loud mostly.

I hear the imperial fist captain on a bike may start giving him a run for his money.

24 minutes ago, Ish said:

Captain Aldo has enough AP to handle anything with seriously heavy armor. That Thunderhammer starts out at a base four attacks at WS 3+ / S8 / AP -3 / D 3. If he decides to go for broke and use the right Relic (Angels Wing) and Warlord Trait (Artisan of War) combo to enhance him, he could end up with four attack (five on the charge) at WS3+ (re-rolling 1s) / S8 (+1 to wound) / AP -3 D 4. 

That's an average of 8.64 wounds on a friggin' Knight Castellan. Heck, if you were to throw him up against Roboute Guilliman, its an average of 4.32 wounds... and that's without springing for the "fight twice" Stratagem. 

There is also the 1CP strategum to give him d3 extra attacks. 

So far I've been running him with the warlord trait that has him end up with 5+ fnp, rerolling 1's, but at some point i wanna try the +1 damage weapon as you mention.