Cant find sone 40K info

[Craeat]

It was around the time of the BIG FAQ 2 there was some information that came from GW that had a bunch of clarifications, like you have to measure the diagonal distance for fly to charge and not just the horizontal, something about buff affects on a unit that is removed from the board and set up again not maintaining them, etc. The fly charge is hinted in the big FAQ 2 file download but I cant find the actual file/whatever I remember reading that in. Any help would be great.

 

Craeat

[pretre]

Did you check the rulebook FAQ from the same time period?

 

https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/warhammer_40000_rulebook_en.pdf

[Craeat]

28 minutes ago, pretre said:

Did you check the rulebook FAQ from the same time period?

 

https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/warhammer_40000_rulebook_en.pdf

I have, If I remember is was something like a FAQ with the rules / dev people that came out about that time. I just know they reference it in the start of the BIG FAQ 2 that is downloadable.

It was a developer commentary that came out around august (found some references to it online but not the actual document)

[pretre]

The dev commentaries that aren't posted aren't really binding, but I'll try to find it.

[Craeat]

1 minute ago, pretre said:

The dev commentaries that aren't posted aren't really binding, but I'll try to find it.

Then why do they reference it in the first sentence of BIG FAQ 2 for the charge rule with fly keyword but it is not in any of the erratas..... *pulls hair out*

[fluger]

4 minutes ago, Craeat said:

Then why do they reference it in the first sentence of BIG FAQ 2 for the charge rule with fly keyword but it is not in any of the erratas..... *pulls hair out*

[pretre]

Eh hold on.

[Craeat]

5 minutes ago, pretre said:

Yeah, I was right the first time. They are referring to the main rulebook FAQ

Page 177

– Moving

Change the second paragraph to read: ‘If the datasheet for a model says it can Fly

, then during the Movement phase it can move across models and terrain as if they were not there.

 

 

Original Text:

If the datasheet for a model says it can
FLY , it can move across models and
terrain as if they were not there.

 

That does not address the charge clarification they were talking about. The old way for fly and charge was just measure the horizontal distance. There was a clarification that I remember reading that stated this had unintended consequences and you need to measure the distance from base to base for fly (hence the diagonal). This is how they refer to it in the BIG FAQ

This errata was designed to answer a common question that arose when units that can Fly were attempting to
charge units atop a tall terrain feature, or vice versa. In such a situation, even though the vertical distance between
the charging unit and its target could be quite large, the horizontal distances involved could be very small, or even
nothing. As they ignored the vertical distance to their target when charging, this could result in automatic charges.
This was further compounded when a unit arriving from reserve was set up more than 9" vertically from enemy
models on top of a tall terrain feature, but then either had a charge distance that was substantially less than 9" (or was
automatically charged) that turn when combined with the above. This was not the intent of the original rule and we
therefore took the difficult decision that units that can Fly should have to roll the same charge roll as any other unit.

 

But I cant find the Q&A from the devs that I remember reading this in. I remember this generated a number of picks / meems of mosterous creatures and models on the upper floor of a ruin and not able to charge / fight because of this charge clarification.

[pretre]

Okay, so what happened here, if I remember correctly.

They FAQ'd it to 0 charge distance for vertical and then backed it out.

[pretre]

1 minute ago, Craeat said:

 

Yeah, I know, I edited it before you responded.

[Craeat]

There was also in that same document that they talked about the fly change there was a clarification on a unit having a buff applied to them (ie plus 1 attacks) for a round then a strategem removing them from the field and then returning them to the field. They clarified that because they are removed from the field the buff disappears and is not retained once they are removed from the filed and then reset up. That was in the same document I read but now cant find the faq on this as well.

[pretre]

4 minutes ago, Craeat said:

There was also in that same document that they talked about the fly change there was a clarification on a unit having a buff applied to them (ie plus 1 attacks) for a round then a strategem removing them from the field and then returning them to the field. They clarified that because they are removed from the field the buff disappears and is not retained once they are removed from the filed and then reset up. That was in the same document I read but now cant find the faq on this as well.

Main rulebook FAQ:

Q: If you use a Stratagem to remove a model from the battlefield

and set it up again, does the model retain any persistent effects

(for example, a bonus to one of its characteristics as a result of

an ability)?

A: No.

[pretre]

1 hour ago, pretre said:

Did you check the rulebook FAQ from the same time period?

 

https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/warhammer_40000_rulebook_en.pdf

So, back to my first response. 😉

[Craeat]

Just now, pretre said:

Main rulebook FAQ:

Q: If you use a Stratagem to remove a model from the battlefield

and set it up again, does the model retain any persistent effects

(for example, a bonus to one of its characteristics as a result of

an ability)?

A: No.

WHY AM I NOT SEEING THIS STUFF........ I swear i read it like 10 times.........

 

[Craeat]

Now this ruling has opened up the debate between my son and I on the same situation but instead of a stratagem to do it you use a psychic ability that does the same thing, removes them from the battlefield and set it up again.........

[pretre]

Just now, Craeat said:

Now this ruling has opened up the debate between my son and I on the same situation but instead of a stratagem to do it you use a psychic ability that does the same thing, removes them from the battlefield and set it up again.........

Is it removing it or moving it?

If the power removes the unit and sets it up again? Remove buffs.

If the power moves the unit? Keep buffs.

[pretre]

Like Da Jump? Clearly removing and setting up again.

[Craeat]

1 minute ago, pretre said:

Like Da Jump? Clearly removing and setting up again.

DING... exactly..... but I have seen people argue it only applies to stratagems because if they wanted it to apply to psychic then they would have said so........ *pulls more hair out*

for the record I agree with you.

[pretre]

Just now, Craeat said:

DING... exactly..... but I have seen people argue it only applies to stratagems because if they wanted it to apply to psychic then they would have said so........ *pulls more hair out*

for the record I agree with you.

I mean, they're probably technically right (the best type to be) but, in my opinion, the RAI is clear. If I had to judge at an event, I'd go off of that.

[Guest]

Which buff are they trying to carry over?