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Due to family plans I won't be able to be there until 12:00 but since it's a casual format I don't think that will be an issue.

I like list #1 with 4 marders for him. They should stick around longer than a 2 tank platoon and its a little more streamlined and a simpler list. Thanks for helping out!

Normal armor with marder support would probably be best for this event for a new player.

Well the tank formation is mandatory for tanksgiving. Any support I'll leave up to you guys.

He would prefer to play German if that works for you. Thanks Barca!

Can you let me know what the list will be?

Phyfor88,

I have a new player that I am trying to get to this event but the problem is he has been building mid war british. He does not have anything else.

Can we make an exception to the eastern front list requirement or could someone supply him an eastern front army?

Barca,

I think having a cool table of terrain and some models is a good first step. How about some simple flyers that you can hand out to people with an upcoming event on the flyer. The flyer should also have info directing them to this forum so they can be tied into or at least see the communication going on.

This event could be one like Zeke ran for TY in which a vet is paired with a beginner and the beginner does not need to own an army. Its just to get them playing the game so they can experience it and see if they like it. We could also just have two armies provided so they could take command of one force in the style of a demo game.

I introduced FoW to a friend down here in Salem who plays 40K and plays Infinity. He liked the rules and the game so it was not to difficult to get him into the game. I'm encouraging him to come to Tanksgiving.

Lets try and find a date for a newbie event and work up a flyer so we can have it ready to hand to people.

As always smoke is a very very useful tool when used skillfully. I have heard a couple of times and most recently on the tactics discussion of the No Dice No Glory podcast of a good use of smoke.

The overall idea is to focus shooting on one group of tanks with the goal of removing them as a threat while using a smoke bombardment to nullify the other group that you are not shooting at. It will only help you one turn unless you have multiple batteries capable of smoke bombardment but hopefully if you pull it off correctly you have reduced the threat and will now take little damage in return fire in the enemy turn.

The other options that are now available at larger lists totals are to have something that dosent care how much light tank spam is coming. Churchills come to mind. they done care if its 30 or 100 stuarts. 1 churchill sitting on each of your objectives are impervious to anything that is coming at them with AT 7. Of course there are some serious downsides to this approach.

I think a balanced approach is best. 

As Dennis Miller says: "Of course thats just my opinion, I could be wrong"

Completely agree that command cards should be looked at. In general when I think of list building it includes command card decisions. With more points come much greater opportunity for units and command cards that you just cant afford at lower points level.

I figured people would have plastic sprues on hand. I would gladly trade for the grant sprue. I'll PM to set up a time to meet at GG.

If anyone wants a valentine tank sprue, I am willing to trade for any other sprue that someone is willing to trade.

Let me know if you have a sprue that you want to trade for it.

Back to list building 🙂

TANKOVY!!!

I'm fine with that.

I think this is a local point pick. We were using 71 pts but that equates generally to 1,065 pts in old V3 money.

71 pts is  a little limiting and we wanted to be able to expand the forces and make more list options viable.

Desert rats is not obsolete. It's just that armored fist has the same lists and then more. If you only have the desert rats book and not armored fist then I'm pretty sure Barca will let you run a list from it.

I like that Panzer Grey. I thought I might do my panzer III's in grey but chickened out and went with a dunkelgelb so it would tie in with the rest of my collection.

Love the customization 🙂

I see what they did. The bunker buster hitting every team in an entire building was maybe to powerful for buildings that could hold 20+ teams. This seems like a good way to persuade the soviet player to not use the buildings. With a 2 gun battery you would probably have a minimum of two hits if one of the guns missed and then you rolled a 1 on your d6. 14 hits if you roll well.

I thought the 15cm infantry gun was a bunker buster. Is it not?

Article on adding half tracks to the panzer gren list in Iron Cross up on the website. https://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=6219

I think they are a very good upgrade from trucks and well worth the points.

Hope to see you out at some future events Mike!

Its about time! I was hoping this would be updated for Version 4. No more having handwritten lists!

https://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=6189

2 hours ago, phyfor88 said:

I always like having multiple options. My fovaorite will be German Grenadiers. I like city battles but not all the time. So for james all d's. D, D, D. Yuck that is barely a passing grade.

 

its great for lingerie tho!

I agree on the 8.8cm Heavy AA can do the job but you have a mobility problem. Ambush might help with this. The 7.5 Pak40s are ok but I think will still struggle against KV-1.

I don't count the Stuka bombs as effective due to the fact that the KV only has a 16.6% chance of failing its armor save. 33.3% chance of meeting AT4. Throw on your 4+ firepower and even when they fail the save you only have a 50/50 chance of killing. Thats pretty bleak.

KV-1 can be taken as a support choice to any formation or they have a mixed tankovy that can take KV-1 as one of the obligitory platoons. The good thing about this for the Germans is that it dosent have a headquaters unit so I think you might be able to ignore the KV-1 platoons, destroy the other parts of the formation and go for a formation break. I think this is why battlefront removed the HQ from the mixed tankovy formation. otherwise they would be able to have 2 units of KV-1 (HQ and 1 platoon) and it would be very hard to get them not in good spirits.

My personal view is that the points for a tiger in the face of KV-1 and Churchills has become much more palatable.

Strolled into my LFGS here in Salem to order the new books and Lo and behold! they had 1 set of the 40.00 bundle of both books so I snagged em!

The Soviets are looking kinda scary... Im just trying to think of what is a good counter to KV-1?