mojoslayer

It is true that height gives you a disadvantage, but I don't care, I build things the way I want, to me hobby trumps.  

ASF on the charge and devastating charge would go a long way to make Brets go from good to really good, that and remove the max unit sizes.  

They could use the questing beast, which is from the arthurian legend.  Born of incest, it had the head and neck of a snake and the body of a cat and some hoofed creature.  

I think in your capable hands, this list will do very well, a mix of shooting and hard hitting units.  To me, those wild riders were meant for Wildform, but I get the Dark Magic, gives you more long range hitting power.  As much as I like the Waywatcher character with two sniper, no armour save shots, (all of my early playing around builds has it) I'm starting to lean toward giving him the ruby ring.

Third possible list.

1 Runesmith general

Shield

Rune of Stone

Spell Breaking

Furnace

1 Thane

Great Weapon

MR Gromril, Two iron 

1 Engineer

Brace of Pistols

Rune of Stone

1 Dragon Slayer

Rune of Parrying

Flaming Rune

Rune of speed

19 Longbeards

Sheilds

Full Command

Stubborn

20 Hammerers

Full Command

Slowness, D6 leadership roll

14 Slayers

Full Command

13 Thunderers

Shields

Full Command

2 Gyrocopters

1 Cannon

Forging  

Burning

1 Orang Gun

Penetrating

Different possible list.

20 Longbeards

Great Weapons

Full Command

Vanguard

20 Longbeards

Great weapons

Full Command

Vanguard, MR 1

20 Hammerers

Full Command

12" Stubborn Bubble

I Runesmith General

Shield

Rune of Stone

Spell Breaker

Furnace

1 Runesmith

Shield

Rune of Stone

Spell Breaker

1 Thane BSB (hammerers)

Shield

6 inch ward save bubble

Vanguard 

10 Miners

Full Command

10 Miners 

Full Command

10 Miners

Full Command

5 Rangers

5 Rangers

Agent P, I have several dwarf armies if you want me to bring an extra one. 

I love it, don't change a thing.   It should hit haaaard! 

Well being in Salem, I don't have a way to pay anytime soon, but I want on the list.  I will be in Portland the weekend after next, can I drop off the money then to reserve the spot?  

Thanks

That list gives me a w........ never mind. 

2,000 points in Dwarfs

Runesmith General

Shield

Rune of Stone

Rune of the Furnace

Rune of Spell Breaking

Runesmith

Shield

Rune of Stone

Rune of Spell Breaking

Thane BSB

Great Weapon

Pistol

MR Gromril

Two Runes of Iron 

Dragon Slayer

Rune of Parrying

Rune of Fire

Rune of Striking

19 Longbeards

Shields

Full Command

Rune of Slowness

20 Warriors

Great Weapons

Full command

20 Hammerers

Full Command

12 inch Stubborn Bubble

20 Slayers

Musician and Standard

1 Gyrocopter w/ Vanguard 

1 Gyrocopter

1 Cannon

Forging

Burning

Where do we pay?  I don't see an option in the store yet.  Also, are special characters allowed?

I'm in.  Where do we pay?  2,000 points?  Any special rules, can we use special characters?

Nice collection!  I love me some dwarves.

I was told that you can have more than one monster over 100 points but you cannot have two of the same kind of monster. I hope this ruling is still true, otherwise the list I have been practicing with is invalid.

The real wrench in all of this is if 9th comes out this summer. :)

What is more fun than a war machine?  I think some of you have a strange idea of what fun is. :)  

"There is nothing like the smell of burning Skaven in the morning!"

I am hoping that if our team was amongst those teams that appeared to think it was a competitive tournament, that myself or one of my team mates may have been informed of this.  Our team did quite well, but other than the one outlier in our team (of which I had discussed with the ratings committee).  I felt our team's lists were within the scope of the event.  I do feel one of the Chop! teams was a bit higher on the power scale, but I do hope that our trash talking isn't being taken as us Canadians treating this as a highly competitive tournaments.  We actually scale back our lists A LOT when we come down there (there are quite a few uncomp'ed events up here). 

 

That said, us Canadians in the lower mainland (Vancouver BC area) play A LOT of Warhammer, and I would argue we've got some of the best players in all of North America (although I'd struggle to provide any real statistical data to back this up) and I'm hoping that being strong players isn't being construed as being power gamers.

 

Any rate, I digress.  The real point here is if you guys have a problem with us or other teams, make sure you're talking to them (because if it's us, we haven't been approached on this directly, and I'm pretty sure neither of the Chop! groups have either).

As a player, I had no problem playing you chop guys, you all were a lot of fun, and it is true you guys play a tight game.  

I often wonder if some people get tough players confused with tough lists.  Even though I lost both of my games against the chop players, I felt that I could have won if I played better, there is no doubt I got beat by the player not the list.  In fact I like playing with people more practiced than me, it forces me to elevate my game.    

I'm not rebasing my slayer pirates so they are out, and my goal is to take zero warmachines so no Goblin Hewer (although I did think about it).  I have had this Dragon for almost 2 years, and I really want an excuse to paint it. :)

I'm going to try to do both :)

But the good part about having to use GW forests is that at least the size will be limited, have you seen some of the beastmen herd stones people use?

But now it makes sense does it not?

Watch it Gunnerson, Murphys lawyer outranks you, which negates your steadfast.  I for one am stubborn on the notion.  

Unless the daemons really are the harbingers of good, and we are just all fooled into thinking they are evil from those manipulative pandering elvish propagandists. 

Brokk slammed his axe into the side of the dragons face. Arm sized teeth flew through the air from the angry blow. The Carmine Dragon knew he was defeated, Brokk had seen the look before, the final look of defiance before death. He saw it on the face of the troll his father killed when he was a lad. He saw it on the face of the orc general he slew when he was a beardling during the last Waaagh. And he saw it on the face of his brother when this Carmine dragon scooped him up and devoured him in front of his own children. The screams from his niece and nephew fueled his strikes as he remembered the devastation all those months ago. The broken bodies of his friends had littered the fiery scene, the entire settlement had been ambushed by the evil beast, yet he was left without a scratch, despite trying to engage the flying monster.

Angered further, Brokk named each of his blows for his fallen comrades he struck at the Dragon repeatedly.

The dragon glared up at the berserk dwarf slayer. Defeated, but not broken, it smiled.

Brokk stopped the pummeling. He was a gruesome sight, covered tip to toe in gore, his own blood mixing with that of the dragon in a mural of violence. He shouted spit and blood “Why did you not kill me like the others, why did you spare me!!!! ”

With a labored breath, the dragon spoke with a voice deeper than the lowest cavern in hell. “It is the others I spared. I always leave one. One to witness my wrath, to feel the sting of my bite and the burn of my flame. I always leave one, wishing........for Death.” The dragon started laughing, but it began choking on it's blood.

Brokk raised his axe high for the final strike. The dragons eyes widened, preparing for eternal darkness. As Brokk swung his axe he turned the blade at the last second so that the flat smacked into the dragon. The dragon lost consciousness, but was still breathing. Brokk bared his teeth. “Death is too good for you, now YOU will suffer!”

The mad slayer began to wrap the dragon in chains.  

After a few games, I have realized the Carmine dragon is not as broken as people might think.  As many dragons do, it is often killed before it even gets into combat.  Plus once the breath weapon is used, it is only a strength 5 monster, and not terribly scary.  In my first game it was killed from the Daemonic magic table before it even saw combat, (thanks Slannesh).  In the second game it did some damage to some rat ogres, but did not gain many points, in fact it paniced and ran for a turn before being held up by a big skaven horde.  In the third game it was able to demolish a unit of Bull Centaurs, but after that it was pretty ineffectual.   Overall I like it, but it takes some finesse to make work, and it is kind of a one and done type piece.  In fact I can say with certainty that two dwarf cannons, both with forging and one with burning, would be a cheaper more effective build....but not nearly as fun.