barca

On 11/15/2019 at 3:11 PM, Ish said:

I wonder how backwards compatible the new edition will be with the first edition rulebooks....

You only have a few weeks to wait for your answer. For the most part, Battlefront has been very customer-friendly with these types of transitions.

23 hours ago, Souldier3 said:

James that all makes logical sense but I just dont see anything in the rules to answer the question definitively. I sent a message to battlefront via Facebook. We will see if they answer. I'm not a big facebook user but I do have a account.

OK. Thx 4 taking that initiative.

WWIII: Team Yankee version 2 will launch on December 7, 2019
WWIII: British (book and models release) has been re-scheduled to be released in February 2020
In the November/December time frame there will also be releases of WWIII: Team Yankee Decal Sets and Token Sets. No previews, yet.
For more info: https://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=6803

On 11/14/2019 at 1:10 PM, Souldier3 said:

Barca,

I don't think I agree that a pinned unit is a moving unit.

I am not trying to argue that Pinned = Moving. There are situations where they have different effects.

What I am trying to say is that the EFFECTS of pinned on shooting, and the EFFECTS of moving on shooting can have the same outcome.

To address this in a different way, I think that the effects (on shooting) of being pinned and the effects of moving have more to do with time and the focused attention of the shooter to line up a well-aimed shot.

In the case of movement, time is the primary factor. Part of your turn (time) is moving and the other part (time) is shooting. To show that LESS time is used to locate the target and setup a well-aimed shot, or to fire more than one shot, there are two ways to approach this:

• a. Reduce ROF for moving
• b. Penalty in the To-Hit score.

When the Stationary ROF is already 1, then your choices are:

• Set the Moving ROF to zero, or
• Set Moving ROF also to 1 AND add mechanism "b"

In the case of pinned, you could argue that either time or focus (or both) could affect the ability of the of the shooter to line up a well-aimed shot.

• c. Time: part of the turn is taken up with dodging incoming enemy fire, or working up the nerve to stick your head up to shoot.
• d. Focus: shooting at a target when you are NOT being shot at allows you better focus to find your target and perhaps waiting a bit to take your best shot (time and/or focus). Shooting at a target when you ARE being shot at rattles your nerves and/or makes you hurry to take a less-than-optimal shot

Additionally, going from version 3 to version 4, a lot of special rules were streamlined. So equating "Pinned ROF" to "Moving ROF" was taken as a simple way of applying a general rule to most cases, instead of writing PINNED ROF as a separate statement in many places.

Now, I am not on the staff at Battlefront, so I do not know if their discussions are anything like the one I described above.

On 11/14/2019 at 1:10 PM, Souldier3 said:

I didn't see Phil's email that he takes these questions on but if anyone knows please chime in.

1. I could be wrong. You are free to disagree. The logical reasoning is not as clear as it could be in either the rules or in the LFTF.

2. As for e-mail, I think that might not get a response. Battlefront has been pushing a lot of Gamer-staff interaction to their Facebook Page. If you can log in to facebook and tag the posting to notify you when there are comments to what you posted, then that might get some discussion or even an answer. If you cannot set a notification, then you might have to scroll through lots of other stuff to find your posting and its comments.

3. I don't yet have a FB page, otherwise I would ask the question myself. It seems to be murky and yet important.

I should have started a pool. I was spot on both points levels:

2020 North American Points and Locations
Late-war     100 points
Team Yankee     120 points
Last Updated On Thursday, November 14, 2019

2020 North American Points and Locations

Late-war     100 points
Team Yankee     120 points
Last Updated On Thursday, November 14, 2019

THU 11/14, I will be there. LW Germans and LW Ami's from the D-Day books

This is my target for enfilade, but it is negotiable up until JAN 1, 2020 (1):

3 rounds, 2.5 hours, 100 points (2), LATE-WAR, Theme D-DAY, D-Day Books, latest edition of the v4 Rulebook, fully painted armies (decals optional), bases must at least be painted, but flocking is desired. No Soviet Forces.

Before you jump and comment on ENFILADE, read on about the tournament that comes 6 weeks before ENFILADE 2020:

• On Saturday, April 11th, 2020, RCDD will host Dogs-of-War 2020 (3), in Portland OR. That format will be similar to ENFILADE 2020, with a few changes:

Armies SHOULD be fully painted, but models and bases must be WYSIWYG - no proxy models. At least base-coat the figures and models, please

This is a De-escalation Tournament. You play in shorter rounds with fewer points (2) for each successive mission. 3 army lists: 115, 100 and 85 points.

• #1 is the base list, at 115 points. This is the list I will review and approve.
• List 2 will be list #1 minus 15 points, (100 pts) and must be legal - not reviewed by me, unless your opponent objects
• List 3 will be list #2 minus 15 points, (85 pts) and must be legal - not reviewed by me
• You will have paper copies of your list at registration time, legible (typed not required if it is legible), that you provide to each opponent, plus one for the GM.

Each round after Round 1 decreases by 15 min:

• Round 1: 2h, 45 min, 115 pts (list #1), Mission chosen via Battle Plan (4).
• Round 2: 2h, 30 min, 100 pts (list #2), Mission chosen via Battle Plan.
• Round 3: 2h, 15 min, 85 pts (list #3), Mission for everyone is "Free-For-All" - no reserves, no ambush, Meeting Engagement.

The objectives of this Dogs-of-War FoW Tournament are:

• Play MORE GAMES!
• Focus on LOCAL players (SW Wash, NW Oregon) and a smaller tournament (12-14 gamers).
• Practice with the Force you will likely use at ENFILADE
• Allow you to experiment with support options before ENFILADE
• Focus on the core 85 pts of your force
• Challenge you to play faster with each mission.
• Give you an incentive to have a fully painted army before ENFILADE

NOTES:

(1) Soon after 1 JAN is when I will have my entry ready to submit to the NHMGS Enfilade organizers.

(2) Points levels are a total of BOTH units and command cards.

(3) There is an Ordo Forum post for DoW 2020, which I will update soon.

(4) Since we are using the Battle Plan method, I will NOT be considering Force Type for match ups. Your force should have a plan to defeat whatever your opponent could throw at it. My advice is for you to find a Combined Arms mix you can work with.

14 hours ago, Noland said:

James, what are you leaning to for points so we can start running some test matches up here?

No official announcement  from Battlefront on points levels for the 2020 tournament season, but here are my planning parameters:

• For FOW v4, I am leaning toward 110 points for Late War, 3 rounds, 2h15m per round
• Team Yankee (at ENFILADE 2020) is a one-round event, doubles at 120 pts per team, approx 60 points per player.

Although this specific case is not called out in the LFTF or updates to the rule book, the LFTF does provide some clarity:

SITUATION: Bazooka Team is pinned down, but did not move.

QUESTION: Does it

1. shoot with ROF 1 and its unmodified to-hit number, or
2. does the Slow-Firing rule apply? And therefore, the score to hit = (to-hit number) plus 1 (for slow-firing).

ANSWER: Number 2. Here is why (emphasis is not in the original):

See page 2 in "LESSONS FROM THE FRONT: QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ON FLAMES OF WAR, October 2019"
SHOOTING
Why does a heavy Gun team like an
8.8cm AA gun have a Moving ROF of
1 when it doesn’t have a Tactical speed?
When it is Pinned Down it shoots using
its Moving ROF rating, getting only one
shot. Likewise, at the start of a Meeting
Engagement, if the 8.8cm gun belongs to
the first player, it will shoot as moving,
i.e. using its Moving ROF, so it will get
one shot in this case as well.

Since the Slow-firing rule affects a "moving" unit, and a pinned unit uses it moving ROF, then the bazooka team that is pinned uses its moving ROF, which includes the Slow-firing penalty.

To add to this,

• You roll at the start of each turn, like getting air support.
• Assault Boat Company gets the NGS (Naval Gunfire Support) on 4+
• Rifle co gets the NGS on 5+
• NGS is classified as "Artillery"
• NGS does NOT hit bunkers, minefields nor barbed wire. It can hit gun pits and troops.
• Teams hit by NGS get their saving roll, but if they fail that, firepower is AUTO.

In missions where there is a preliminary bombardment, that rule is like 1 turn of NGS that is done after setup and before the first turn. Preliminary bombardment does not occur a second time, and has nothing to do with the use of the NGS card.

On 11/8/2019 at 5:02 PM, phyfor88 said:

Thanks for the Game Barca. German panzer 4's VS american tank co. . The game started  good for the germans then they chocked, but then rallied in round 5 and killed 9 American tanks. surprising German victory.

My opinion is that in late-war, a combined arms force with a PZ IV tanks can work, so long as the commander has a good grasp of combined arms tactics.

A pz IV formation with only tanks is prob doomed in late-war, unless 3 or more tigers get to assault an objective.

SAT, 18 APR: barca's Immersion Games – ZOMBIES & WAR: “Axis & Allies and Zombies”
11:00 AM - 5:00 PM
Fighting a world war is hard enough without a zombie curse. It is 1941, and the world is at war. The Axis war machine is crushing everything in its path, while the Allies are rallying together to mount a heroic stand. - - - And then zombies show up. With your human enemies on one side, and the ravenous undead on the other, it is time to ask yourself, “Do I invest in tanks or chainsaw tanks?” This is not your typical Axis & Allies game.  
Join us for several hours in an immersive alternate universe of World War 2 gone sideways. 3-5 Players.
A fee of $5.00 per person is required to rent the room.
FORUM https://www.ordofanaticus.com/topic/213066-barcas-immersion-games-–-zombies-war/
BLOG https://rosecitydukes.wordpress.com/
MEETUP https://www.meetup.com/Rose-City-Dukes-and-Duchesses-Tabletop-Wargaming-Group
FACEBOOK: tbd
YouTube:
Check out these awesome YouTube videos:
How to Play Axis & Allies & Zombies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1kQkVvgViA
Axis & Allies & Zombies - Part 1 | Game the Game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7ayiT1R_es
Axis & Allies & Zombies - Part 2 | Game the Game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS5iG3kJjoc

What are "barca's Immersion Games"?
Each month, we will find a quiet place to explore new games and "immerse" ourselves in a virtual world via an engaging game. You might join the crew of a pirate ship and act out a role like in "Pirates of the Caribbean". You could dive into a pulp fiction adventure like an "Indiana Jones" movie. You could be trying to survive in a post-apocalyptic world. You might be carving out an empire by conquest or building a nation.
Whether the game is new to you, or old and familiar, you will be challenged by the cooperation or the competition. You could meet new people, or you can bring your friends along to share the adventure.

We are planning on meeting on the third Saturday of each month at Guardian Games in Portland, OR. Most sessions will start at noon and end 3-4 hours later. Some longer games will require that we start earlier and end later.  We will try to rent the Dungeon room to have that quiet space. The rental fee is $5.00 per hour, so we will be expecting each player to pay a $5.00 so that we can collectively cover the room rental.
The event will be posted on the store calendar at https://ggportland.com/calendar/ .  You can sign up on our meetup group at https://www.meetup.com/Rose-City-Dukes-and-Duchesses-Tabletop-Wargaming-Group to get up-to-date information and a reminder for the event.

SAT, February 15, 2020 barca's Immersion Games - PULP FICTION ADVENTURES: Fortune and Glory: The Cliffhanger Game
12:00 PM to 5:00 PM at Guardian games in Portland, OR.

This month we step into the shoes of globe-trotting heroes and villains dueling in a quest for ultimate reward: "Fortune and Glory: The Cliffhanger Game". This is a fast-paced game of high adventure, vile Villains, edge-of-your-seat danger, and Cliffhanger pulp Movie Action. The cast of characters travel the globe in search of ancient artifacts, fending off danger and Villains at every turn. So strap on your adventure boots and goggles, fire up the engines on the seaplane, and grab some extra ammo for your revolver...the Nazis already have a head start and in this race for Fortune and Glory...and there’s no prize for second place!
Join us for 5 hours in an immersive adventure of plot twists, fickle luck and loads of surprises. 3-8 Players.   
A fee of $5.00 per person is required to rent the room.
FORUM https://www.ordofanaticus.com/topic/213065-barcas-immersion-games-pulp-fiction-adventures/
BLOG https://rosecitydukes.wordpress.com/
MEETUP https://www.meetup.com/Rose-City-Dukes-and-Duchesses-Tabletop-Wargaming-Group/events/266299400
FACEBOOK: tbd

What are "barca's Immersion Games"?
Each month, we will find a quiet place to explore new games and "immerse" ourselves in a virtual world via an engaging game. You might join the crew of a pirate ship and act out a role like in "Pirates of the Caribbean". You could dive into a pulp fiction adventure like an "Indiana Jones" movie. You could be trying to survive in a post-apocalyptic world. You might be carving out an empire by conquest or building a nation.
Whether the game is new to you, or old and familiar, you will be challenged by the cooperation or the competition. You could meet new people, or you can bring your friends along to share the adventure.

We are planning on meeting on the third Saturday of each month at Guardian Games in Portland, OR. Most sessions will start at noon and end 3-4 hours later. Some longer games will require that we start earlier and end later.  We will try to rent the Dungeon room to have that quiet space. The rental fee is $5.00 per hour, so we will be expecting each player to pay a $5.00 so that we can collectively cover the room rental.
The event will be posted on the store calendar at https://ggportland.com/calendar/ .  You can sign up on our meetup group at https://www.meetup.com/Rose-City-Dukes-and-Duchesses-Tabletop-Wargaming-Group to get up-to-date information and a reminder for the event.

barca's Immersion Games - PIRATES: 1) Black Fleet 2) Pirate's Cove
12:00 - 4:00 PM at Guardian games in Portland, OR.
This month we role-play pirates in 2 different boardgames: "Black Fleet" and "Pirate's Cove". Deliver cargo, steal treasure, fight other pirates. The buccaneers knew the meaning of "cutthroat competition". Join us for 4 hours of High Seas Adventure in the Dungeon room at Guardian Games.
A fee of $5.00 per person is required to rent the room. 4-5 players
For more information about this and other events, visit:
FORUM https://www.ordofanaticus.com/topic/213063-barcas-immersion-games-pirates/
BLOG https://rosecitydukes.wordpress.com/
MEETUP https://www.meetup.com/Rose-City-Dukes-and-Duchesses-Tabletop-Wargaming-Group/events/266292625
FACEBOOK:

What are "barca's Immersion Games"?
Each month, we will find a quiet place to explore new games and "immerse" ourselves in a virtual world via an engaging game. You might join the crew of a pirate ship and act out a role like in "Pirates of the Caribbean". You could dive into a pulp fiction adventure like an "Indiana Jones" movie. You could be trying to survive in a post-apocalyptic world. You might be carving out an empire by conquest or building a nation.
Whether the game is new to you, or old and familiar, you will be challenged by the cooperation or the competition. You could meet new people, or you can bring your friends along to share the adventure.

We are planning on meeting on the third Saturday of each month at Guardian Games in Portland, OR. Most sessions will start at noon and end 3-4 hours later. Some longer games will require that we start earlier and end later.  We will try to rent the Dungeon room to have that quiet space. The rental fee is $5.00 per hour, so we will be expecting each player to pay a $5.00 so that we can collectively cover the room rental.
The event will be posted on the store calendar at https://ggportland.com/calendar/ .  You can sign up on our meetup group at https://www.meetup.com/Rose-City-Dukes-and-Duchesses-Tabletop-Wargaming-Group to get up-to-date information and a reminder for the event.

For Guardian Games: The BIG sale is Friday November 29th from 8am-9:45am. Other discounts will be available later in the day.

THU 11/7, I will be there. Any suggestions / Preferences?

On 11/2/2019 at 11:05 AM, ZEKE said:

Thanks.

 

Changing the D-Day Beach mission from "FUBAR" to "Help is On Its Way".

We playtested the FUBAR mission a second time, and event with adjustments, it is not suitable for new players. Is it a long, slow slog for hardened Gorgnards.

The mission "Help is On Its Way" should play faster and be more dynamic for both sides.

I suspect that the marketing reason is to have a broader title for the post-Vietnam conflicts that might be covered, including those which are NOT related to the novel.

Mid War Airborne Forces Preorders

BF product pages:

All American: Mid War American Airborne & Rangers - 1942-43 (FW248)
 Contains army lists as well as 8 Unit Cards and 7 Command Cards. $20.00

Death From Above: Mid War German & Italian Airborne Forces 1942-43 (FW249)
Contains army lists as well as 21 Unit Cards and 24 Command Cards. $20.00

Since there will be a lot of night fighting, order these, as well: TK905 Muzzle Flash Token Set $10.50

Both Guardian Games (GG) and Oregon City Geeks and Games (OCG) will have BLACK FRIDAY Sales: Friday, November 29th.

GG web - See the home page for anouncement and link

• The BIG sale is Friday November 29th from 8am-9:45am. Other discounts will be available later in the day.

GG FB: Latest news will be here and posted in the store

OCGG web

OCGG FB

The Flames Of War: Late War Journey lays out the release plan and schedule for Flames of War.

There is word of a major "reboot" of Team Yankee to be re-branded as something like "World War III" around February 2020, but no announcement yet.

In addition to the "Late War Journey", Battlefront has posted their end-of-year look ahead: Battlefront 2020 Preview

Thx. All good ideas.

I will promote as much as possible, including on SAT, NOV 2 during the

• Learn-to-Play at Guardian Games (11:30 AM-1:30 PM), and
• Flames of War Battles at Guardian Games (1:30-5:00 PM)

I will also write up some battle reports and take pics for the D-Day Global Campaign, to give our group more exposure.

The event is on the Ordo Calendar, on the Battlefront Events Web page, and several other online places I have posted.

np. I can take pics and write up a short report. I already have a login and registered our club

5 hours ago, ZEKE said:

 just need somebody to play the Airborne.

 

 

 

I will volunteer. - - - "Currahee"

- - - the motto of the 506th Infantry Regiment, a unit of the 101st Airborne Division