Guest Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Another odd one. Got a local necron player. He's been using a cryptek with abyssal staff (near identical to the callidus assassin's neural shredder). He then attaches it to a unit of deathmarks. His, and my, understanding is that the cryptek can use the staff to wound on 2s against the marked target. This is because the cryptek is treated as an upgrade character for the unit. Here's the issue: Necron player is saying that the abyssal staff still using it's strength against toughness for the instant death threshold, as the BRB is specific that ID only matters strength (8) vs toughness and the abyssal staff only says to wound against toughness, not check for ID. I could have sworn this one was FAQed, but we couldn't find it. Is there anything out there on this subject? Thoughts? I'll admit, I mostly want to know because if my callidus IDs against toughness, even if she wounds against leadership, it does change how/if I use her. -Pax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Nope. Although the FAQ does not specifically address the Abyssal Staff, it talks about similar weapons that use some other value in place of Toughness when wounding, and Instant Death is also calculated off of that value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 It's on pg. 5 of the Necron FAQ, second column, toward the bottom. You use the target's Ld to work out whether or not it causes Instant Death. Q:When using an abyssal staff, do you use the target’s Toughness or Leadership for the purposes of working out if Instant Death applies? (p84) A:You use the target’s Leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 It's on pg. 5 of the Necron FAQ, second column, toward the bottom. You use the target's Ld to work out whether or not it causes Instant Death. Thank you. This necron opponent of mine, he's on another, necron only forum, and they keep giving him incorrect rules... -Pax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busbina Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Thank you. This necron opponent of mine, he's on another, necron only forum, and they keep giving him incorrect rules... -Pax Table flip and walk away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkie Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Yeah I've heard that one before. The guy dropped from the tourney when he was told no on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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