imperialjawa Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Ok one of the larger tournaments here in Ireland is at the end of January and I wanted to throw out a list for review and get some feedback from the more experienced Warbosses on this forum. OK so the tourny rules so far as i know them are 1650 points Battle forged armies onlyIf your army consists of only a single Detachment its Warlord, even if it is a special Character, May make an additional roll on the Warlord Trait table from the rulebook.If your Army Consists of Three or more Detachments or Formations Then only the Primary Detachment gains the bonuses from “Command Benefits”. No escalation, no superheavies (Imperial Knights excepted), fortress of redemption or aquila strongpoints Mission are usually ETC style but they haven't specified any missions yet so they COULD do anything. Ok so here's my Ork list Warboss: mega armor, boss pole, lucky stick 130 Big Mek: mega armor, boss pole, finkin kap 90 Mek: rocket luncher 20 19 boyz: 2 rocket launcher, Nob: power klaw, boss pole 170 Truck: rocket launcher 30 19 boyz: 2 rocket launcher, Nob: power klaw, boss pole 170 Truck: rocket launcher 30 5 Mega Nobs 200 Truck: rocket launcher, boarding plank 45 10 Tankbustaz: 3 bomb squig 145 10 Tankbustaz: 3 bomb squig 145 4 Warbuggies: TL rocket launchers 100 5 Lobbas: 90 5 smasha guns: 5 ammo runt 165 Battlewagon: kannon 120 with 3 rolls on the strategic chart and a reroll: the plan is to get the "master of ambush" and "night attacker" warlord traits to straight but stealth orks in peoples faces. Big Mek joins smashas and infiltrates both boyz squad infiltrates one tankbusta squad infiltrates other tankbusta squad gets in the battlewagon warboss and mega nobs use truck to get where they need to be boyz trucks used as line of sight/movement blockers and fast obsec units warbuggies add more rockets and outflank potential mek joins Lobbas and then do work with a slightly higher leadership ;) 33 str8 ap3 shots pre turn plus 6 str8 ap4 2+ hitting shots(once/game) 5 mobile arty with ap1 shots and some rerolls for when you get str10 plus one extra str8 ap2 shot for funzes seems ok to me its shooty and punchy I would love to have more warbuggies but finding german orky ones is problematic/expensive any suggestion? is my plan doomed? is it unorky? are my points wrong? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 The list is, what, 1750 from a quick glance? And you've got three Trukks and one Battlewagon? Yeah, that's a problem- those Trukks are gonna evaporate instantly and the 'Wagon pretty soon after. Your list seems like it's an odd mix of foot and mechanized stuff, like it can't decide which it wants to do; there's plenty of good units in there, but I feel like they're working at cross purposes in a lot of cases. Take the Tankbustas, for example. Good unit, surprisingly effective at killing lots of things (tanks included). But they're 24" range and you have them trying to walk towards the enemy with no protection but a 6+ armor save, not a plan I expect to work out very well. There's definitely a glimmer of hope in there for the army, but I think you'd need to do some serious revamping to make it what I would think of as a tournament-quality list. Also, as cute as the tourney's special unique snowflake house rules are, you're probably better off using one of the formations in the list (either the Meganobz or Battlewagons one), as you still have two rolls with rerolls on both on the Strategic table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imperialjawa Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 So anybody else wants to give some advice? I am going to get a practice game in this weekend to see how the above list works :) @AbusePuppy Thanks for you comments here is what I'm working with I only have the meganobs you see in the above list so I cant go that direction I have played a few games with the 5 Battlewagon formation...and its rough to make a list that has enough bodies to go in the battlewagons that make it an effective force and that was at 1850 let alone 1650. Assume I have 5 battlewagons with guns on them(none removable) what list do I make with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 With all that infiltrating, I wouldn't invest in transports. I get you aren't using them as transports per se, but the points used there could net you something more useful IMO. I don't think the secondary Mek is really that helpful, I'd drop him and the three trukks. That's 110 pts (I'd put the boarding planks on the battlewagon which is now transporting all the mega armored dudes.) Get a KFF for the Big Mek to help the battlewagon survive and have some invuls for shooting once you get out. Put remaining points into getting more boyz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generalripphook Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 You can drop the warbuggies just to get more bodies. Or drop the warbuggies to pick up more trucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frowbakk Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 At OFCC I found that the Boarding Planks weren't worth it. The re-roll from 'Ere We Go on charge range basically does the same thing for free. Since you're really leveraging the Finkin' Kap, go for broke on infiltrating. Plus remember that if your Big Mek is your Warlord, you won't be calling a Waaagh with the Warboss, so plan accordingly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 @AbusePuppy Thanks for you comments here is what I'm working with I only have the meganobs you see in the above list so I cant go that direction I have played a few games with the 5 Battlewagon formation...and its rough to make a list that has enough bodies to go in the battlewagons that make it an effective force and that was at 1850 let alone 1650. Assume I have 5 battlewagons with guns on them(none removable) what list do I make with them? Well, not knowing what the actual guns are that's hard to say exactly; this is what I'd aim for as an "ideal" under that assumption, though: ORKS COMBINED ARMS DETACHMENT 1 Big Mek (Mega-Armor, Da Finkin' Kap, Warlord) 1 Warboss (Mega-Armor, Da Lukky Stixx) 3 Meganobz (Trukk w/Rokkit, Reinforced Ram) 10 Tankbustaz 10 Tankbustaz 18 Boyz (1 Rokkit, Nob w/Klaw, Bosspole) 18 Boyz (1 Rokkit, Nob w/Klaw, Bosspole) 20 Boyz (2 Rokkits, Nob w/Klaw, Bosspole) 3 Lobba 2 Lobba 1 Trakta Gun BLITZ BRIGADE FORMATION 1 Battlewagon (4 Rokkits, Deffrolla) 1 Battlewagon (4 Rokkits, Deffrolla) 1 Battlewagon (1 Big Shoota, Deffrolla) 1 Battlewagon (1 Big Shoota, Deffrolla) 1 Battlewagon (1 Big Shoota, Deffrolla) Sadly it doesn't have a Waaaaagh! (due to not having a Warboss as Warlord), but it's not as focused on charging as some Ork lists are. Large numbers of Rokkits coming off your vehicles as you advance gives you some fairly decent shooting and sheer number of AV14 hulls will make it troublesome for a lot of opponents. It's still not something I expect will do well against, say, Wave Serpents, but if they roll poorly on penetration turn 2 you could easily put them in a bad place. The Meganobz in a Trukk are a bit of a sore thumb, but I don't see a great way around that- you could also potentially swap them out for more shooting support via Mek Gunz, some Buggies, or other elements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imperialjawa Posted December 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Hey Thanks everyone...this is all good advice. I will test them all out!!!!! WAAAGGHHH!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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