gutstar swedish question

[Terell]

The Swedish comp rules  state the following for Ogres. 

 

Gutstar

3rd* non-Hunter Character -2
4th* non-Hunter Character -4
Each non-Hunter Character after the 4th* -6
*Each lord choice after the 2nd counts as 2 characters 

 

My interpretation of this is, if you are running multiple characters in a Gutstar, any past the 2nd will cost additional minuses. I would like to run 5 characters in my list but only 3 will be in the Gutstar. Does that mean I take the additional -4 and -6 even if those characters are not in the Gutstar unit?

 

Thanks,

-T

[ClassicFlava]

I think its just if they are in the list. Swedish isn't going to change based how you may or not play the army

[Andrewgeddon]

My understanding is that you will take a total of -12 for running 5 characters, regardless of where you place them in the army. I sympathize though, I found the "Gutstar" label fairly confusing at first, as I only ever run 2 characters with my 'Guts.

[Kremmet]

It is in fact just a flat minus for bringing a bunch of ogre characters because of the potential for abuse much like BSB banners that are calculated based on the biggest unit they could be placed in and not necessarily the one they will be in.

[McNathanson]

Yeah, another painful example is that if you run a Dark Elf character (e.g. Sorceress) with MR (e.g. Ring of Hotek) meant to protect your Cold One Knights, you take a huge hit if you have Warlocks, because theoretically you could create a 2+ ward vs. magic unit.  Kind of a bummer but at least everyone suffers somewhat together :)