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I can lend LW Canadian or LW russian tanks

 

Here is one CDN ARM list I can field:

British Armoured
Tank Company, Guards Armoured Division, from Overlord, page 90
Points=1505
Platoons=6
Combat Platoons
HeadquartersCompulsory Armoured Squadron HQ (p.91)
    CinC Sherman II or V
    2iC Sherman II or V
Conf/Trained
135 pts.

CombatCompulsory Armoured Platoon (p.92)
    Command Sherman II or V
    2x Sherman II or V
    Firefly VC
Conf/Trained
285 pts.

CombatCompulsory Armoured Platoon (p.92)
    Command Sherman II or V
    2x Sherman II or V
    Firefly VC
Conf/Trained
285 pts.

CombatCompulsory Armoured Platoon (p.92)
    Command Sherman II or V
    2x Sherman II or V
    Firefly VC
Conf/Trained
285 pts.

CombatCompulsory Armoured Platoon (p.92)
    Command Sherman II or V
    2x Sherman II or V
    Firefly VC
Conf/Trained
285 pts.


Brigade Support
Lorried Rifle Platoon (p.106)
    Command Rifle/MG
    PIAT, Light Mortar
    6x Rifle/MG
Conf/Trained
150 pts.

Scout Platoon (p.102)
    Command Universal Carrier
    2x Universal Carrier
Conf/Trained
80 pts.

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Armored Canucks sound great!

 

Here's my tourney list:

 

http://forces.flamesofwar.com/FOWPrint.aspx?list=9eb5de94-5f5e-43e1-ac9d-18f6de99826a&PDF=Y

 

And here's what I would recommend for a 1500pt variation on that:

 

http://forces.flamesofwar.com/FOWPrint.aspx?list=55e6b64a-de93-4879-8593-53b629656d4f&PDF=Y

 

This list drops the Pioneers, Flak, Mortars and Anti-tank platoon.  The first three did absolutely nothing in all three games, and the Anti-Tank platoon was only useful in game 1.  With the extra points, I boosted the support Schutzen squad to full strength.  Kampfgruppe to get to 9 platoons, and the Kampfgruppe can include up to 2 Pak50s.  Let me know if you want me to rearrange it some other way.  

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SK,

Thx for both.

If the pioneers have the option to bring along a supply truck to setup barriers, I would like that to be in the list. 

I am thinking of trying a "Seamless Web Defense". (US WWII term)(a.k.a. "Defense in Depth" - modern term)

I've seen what you can do with a perimeter defense (US WWII term)(a.k.a. "Forward Defense" - modern term).

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Those pioneers can take a 3-ton truck or RSO supply vehicle.  Understrength pioneers (6 Rifle/Pzfaust+command) + RSO are 170 points.  

 

Each full Schutzen platoon is 170 + 20 for the Panzershreck, however the list has three HQ slots for Panzerschrecks unused.  Easiest thing would be to trade Pioneers for a Schutzen platoon, and take an extra HQ panzershreck, same points.  

 

Also worth noting the Shooting Over Stationary Infantry rules (pg 80), which I wasn't using to full effect in the tournament:

 

Vehicles and gun teams can fire over friendly infantry that did not move.  Those infantry can still shoot!  So for a static line, its better to layer the infantry right in front of the guns than right behind them as I was doing (which is only useful for a counterassault).  

 

Also, infantry can fire over stationary infantry (even if that infantry shoots) when firing at vehicles, so when putting down a tank assault two ranks of panzerfaust-armed infantry is sound, as it keeping the Panzershreck in the rear.

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SK,

Benefit of obstacles is that they make you less dependent on the terrain, and give u less element of chance in your battle plan.

 

I don't expect my experiments to be as successful as your tournament results.

But the experiments will be interesting.

 

Anyway, the premise is that when your enemy moves faster than you do, (or more forcefully), then deflecting/directing his movement might be a wise strategy. When you cannot stop a force, then control its direction.

 

There is more to it, but you get the idea.

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I will be interested to see the force spread out a bit.  That could help with the overcrowding problem in the single defensive line.  

 

That last game against the paratroopers, I would have traded half my force for some barbed wire, so I can see the appeal.

 

I'll bring some minefields, but I have no barbed wire handy if you plan to use that.

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Thx.

I have 2 minefields, 3 barbed wire and 1 dragon's teeth.

 

Here are some references. Free is a good price.

 

FoW adaptations of tactics: Login to the BF forum, go to the Tactics section.

 

Theory, and Historical application

Wray, Timothy. Standing Fast: German Defensive Doctrine on the Russian Front During World War II
pp 11, 79, 86
http://usacac.army.mil/cac2/cgsc/carl/download/csipubs/wray.pdf

 

http://www.lonesentry.com/intelbulletin/index_subject.html

     http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/prepdef/index.html

     http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/ttt/trench-warfare-eastern-front.html

     http://www.lonesentry.com/manuals/cyrenaica/offensive.html
http://www.allworldwars.com/Small-Unit-Actions-During-German-Campaign-in-Russia.html
http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/documents/ambush/ambush.htm
http://defence.pk/threads/battle-report-16-fall-gelb-blitzkrieg-1940.340916/page-5
 

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...I would have traded half my force for some barbed wire, so I can see the appeal.

 

I'll bring some minefields, but I have no barbed wire handy if you plan to use that.

After the first of the year, we are probably going to start an FoW Escalation league. One idea for that league is to have some group terrain building, painting, etc.

For those who want cheap minefields and barbed wire, such a terrain-building session would be quick and useful.

I bought my initial set, but plan on building more (think Kursk!).

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So over the long weekend I finished up my British Paratrooper Infantry and would love to play with them this Thursday.  With the new points level of 1420 for late war tournaments anyone up for a 1420 pt late war game?

 

Edit:  Also does anyone have 4 6pdrs and 8 75mm howitzers I could borrow for Thursday?  Still haven't bought all the guns for the list.

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I checked the online store @ BF.

All the guns you listed are on medium bases:

[bR512] 6 pdr gun (x2) (Airlanding) 2 airborne 6pdr guns...2 Medium Bases

[bR560] M1A1 75mm pack howitzer, Two models and command, 2 medium bases...

 

I have primed (black), but not painted, Soviet 76mm regimental guns that I can loan for proxying the other two 6pdrs.

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Hey guys, how do we want to do our weekly game with the holidays coming up?  Our weekly games would fall on the 24th (Christmas Eve) and the 31st (New Years Eve).  Do we move to a different night those two weeks?  I'll be out of town from the 23rd to the 28th, but I could play on the 30th if anyone is interested (normal time 6pm)

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