Guest Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Asking because I'm unclear. A model like Hamelin uses Obey to preform a (1) action via target non-leader model. Can the (1) action include: -Charges on models that specifically only require a (1) charge action (thus generating more actions due to the charge)? -Other abilities which allow the targeted model to use a (1 action) via a target model In example, could I use Hamelin's Obey on the Malifaux Child's Just like you in order to preform one of the Crew Leader's Ca actions (which is Hamelin), which would allow me to cast Obey via the Malifaux Child on yet another target. Likewise, the same Obey on a Rat King, who's Drawn to Contagion allows the Rat King to preform a charge as a (1 action) against blighted models. Now, if this Rat King Charges via Obey, would it then get two (1) Mi actions as per a normal charge? Obey is the example, but there are a bunch like it. Definitely seems like something Malifaux's rules would have a clear cut no you can't or yes you can stance. I can't possibly be the first one to ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orkdork Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Yes :) Prompt chains between Cassandra and Colette are a prime example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Yes :) Prompt chains between Cassandra and Colette are a prime example. Wow.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Though I suppose having a fixed deck of cards makes this sort of chain a bit more balanced than a dice based version of the same thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orkdork Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Yeah, Colette prompting Cassandra to understudy-prompt Colette to prompt Cassandra gets you 3 3" pushes and you still get the action, but you have to keep flipping 6s, so I have done it once so far, as I can't risk it, usually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkieft Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 Some models just obey better than others! There are a number of things in the game that can generate repeated actions, If they are limited it will say so in the ability. This will often be a trigger that says "Take this action again" or something to that effect. In the old edition there were a few infinity loops you can get into, but M2E fixed those. You'll either be limited by needing certain cards, or in some other way that makes it really hard to repeat things more than once or twice. In the example of obey above, there is little reason to use it like this unless your intended target is out of Hamlin's range but in range from the already activated Child. If the Child has not activated, you could just activate it and use the ability without wasting Hamelin's action. But otherwise casting direct from Hamelin will be better as the child takes a negative when casting the masters spells. While you can chain obeys like that, it does not do much beyond waste your time and resources... unless you have some very specific situation to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 Some models just obey better than others! There are a number of things in the game that can generate repeated actions, If they are limited it will say so in the ability. This will often be a trigger that says "Take this action again" or something to that effect. In the old edition there were a few infinity loops you can get into, but M2E fixed those. You'll either be limited by needing certain cards, or in some other way that makes it really hard to repeat things more than once or twice. In the example of obey above, there is little reason to use it like this unless your intended target is out of Hamlin's range but in range from the already activated Child. If the Child has not activated, you could just activate it and use the ability without wasting Hamelin's action. But otherwise casting direct from Hamelin will be better as the child takes a negative when casting the masters spells. While you can chain obeys like that, it does not do much beyond waste your time and resources... unless you have some very specific situation to deal with. There is a point I'm a bit unclear on. If "Just like you" triggers additional actions (like via Obey), are they also subject to the -3 CA, +twist action, -twist damage? Or is only the initial action affected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach_5 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 Only the initial action would be affected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Only the initial action would be affected. That is interesting. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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