pretre Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Okay, so this is a 'soft' charity tournament for fluffy lists. Here's my first go. My stuff is all packed up pending move right now, but I'm pretty sure I have or can make most of this stuff. It also assumes that I can take two CADs. 1939 CAD 1 HQ (Warlord) - Zhadsnark - 150 HQ - Painboy with Warbike - 75 Ob-Sec Troop - 15 Warbikers with Nob (PK/BP) - 310 Ob-Sec Troop - 5 Warbikers with Nob (PK/BP) - 130 Ob-Sec Troop - 5 Warbikers with Nob (PK/BP) - 130 Fort - Void Shield Generator with 2 Shields - 100 Heavy - 10 Lootas - 140 Heavy - 10 Lootas - 140 Fast - Warbuggy with Rokkit - 25 Fast - Warbuggy with Rokkit - 25 Fast - Warbuggy with Rokkit - 25 CAD 2 HQ - Big Mek with Warbike and SAG - 110 (My old Wazdakka model) Elite - 3 Meganobz with BW (Killkannon and Ard Case) - 275 Ob-Sec Troop - 10 Grots and 1 Minder - 35 Ob-Sec Troop - 10 Grots and 1 Minder - 35 Heavy - 3 Kustom Mega-Kannons with 3 Ammo Runts and 6 Extra Gretchin - 117 Heavy - 3 Traktor Kannons with 3 Ammo Runts and 6 Extra Gretchin - 117 I'm pretty sure I have enough bikers to cover all the bikes, Zhad (real model), painboy and I can add to one of my nobs to make a Big Mek. Meganobs will be Deadzone ripper suits. KMK are Deadzone heavy trakk guns. I'll have to convert the Traktor Kannons (or I can use my old Kannons and add bits). The last 60 points will largely be dependent on what I have left in my box. I could add a couple more meganobz, some boys (or kommandos) using Deadzone marauders, maybe more grots... Maybe a warboss on blitzbike... It's the core of my idea though. Lots of Deffskullz and lots of shootin' and krumpin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Oh yeah, I also have the ork barricade kit. Maybe an Aegis for funsies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 I'd make the buggies all three different solo units if I were you. Just my thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 I'd make the buggies all three different solo units if I were you. Just my thought. Oooh good call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Fixed that. 60 points could also get me three Kannons with 2 extra gretchin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Also, IIRC you can't have big guns with Zardsnark even if it's outside of his detachment. I could be wrong about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Also, IIRC you can't have big guns with Zardsnark even if it's outside of his detachment. I could be wrong about that. Biker Boss: An army led by Zhadsnark may include Warbikers (if available in the army list) as Troops choices, but the army may not include any Deff Dreads, Killa Kans or Big Gunz. In addition, if Zhadsnark begins the game as part of a Warbikers unit then he gains the Scout special rule. Argh! Back to the drawing board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Well, technically... You can't take any Big Guns. I don't have any Big Guns. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 That may bugger up my army pretty solid though. I'll have to work around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 2000 CAD 1 HQ - Zhadsnark - 150 HQ - Painboy with Warbike - 75 Fast - 15 Warbikers with Nob (PK/BP) - 310 Fast - 5 Warbikers with Nob (PK) - 125 Fast - 5 Warbikers with Nob (PK) - 125 Fort - Void Shield Generator with 2 Shields - 100 Heavy - 10 Lootas - 140 Heavy - 10 Lootas - 140 Ob-Sec Troop - 10 Grots and 1 Minder - 35 Ob-Sec Troop - 10 Grots and 1 Minder - 35 CAD 2 HQ (Warlord) - Big Mek with Warbike, Finkin' Kap and SAG - 120 (My old Wazdakka model) Elite - 3 Meganobz with BW (Killkannon and Ard Case) - 275 Ob-Sec Troop - 10 Grots and 1 Minder - 35 Ob-Sec Troop - 10 Grots and 1 Minder - 35 Heavy - 3 Kustom Mega-Kannons with 3 Ammo Runts and 6 Extra Gretchin - 117 Heavy - 3 Traktor Kannons with 3 Ammo Runts and 3 Extra Gretchin - 108 Fast - Warbuggy with Rokkit - 25 Fast - Warbuggy with Rokkit - 25 Fast - Warbuggy with Rokkit - 25 Not sure if I actually have that many gretchin/ammo runts. (40 and 4 Minders, plus another 20 and 6 Ammo Runts). I'll have to dig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Well, technically... You can't take any Big Guns. I don't have any Big Guns. :) I believe that the FW FAQ responded to this. His rule is weird because you can get bikers as troops in all detachments not just his own, but you can't have mek gunz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 I guess it isn't resolved... http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/643031.page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 I believe that the FW FAQ responded to this. His rule is weird because you can get bikers as troops in all detachments not just his own, but you can't have mek gunz. I didn't see a FAQ, just Zhad's rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Not in the ITC FAQ either... However, tellingly, in Reece's breakdown of the guy he talks about how you can't take big gunz with him. That review is after the new book dropped. I think trying to RAW the situation here is silly as the intent is obvious (like how we know imperial guard = astra militarum etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2014/11/30/forge-world-to-the-rescue-yet-again-zhardsnark-da-rippa/ On the downside, Zhardsnark prohibits you form taking the excellent Big Gunz and less excellent Ork walkers, so there is a trade off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Not in the ITC FAQ either... However, tellingly, in Reece's breakdown of the guy he talks about how you can't take big gunz with him. That review is after the new book dropped. I think trying to RAW the situation here is silly as the intent is obvious (like how we know imperial guard = astra militarum etc). Oh, I agree. I would definitely not try it. If you don't take him as warlord though, you're good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 But if he isn't the warlord then can you get bikes as troops??? I missed the new list. Never mind, carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 But if he isn't the warlord then can you get bikes as troops??? Nope. Check out the list above (reposted in spoiler) CAD 1 HQ - Zhadsnark - 150 HQ - Painboy with Warbike - 75 Fast - 15 Warbikers with Nob (PK/BP) - 310 Fast - 5 Warbikers with Nob (PK) - 125 Fast - 5 Warbikers with Nob (PK) - 125 Fort - Void Shield Generator with 2 Shields - 100 Heavy - 10 Lootas - 140 Heavy - 10 Lootas - 140 Ob-Sec Troop - 10 Grots and 1 Minder - 35 Ob-Sec Troop - 10 Grots and 1 Minder - 35 CAD 2 HQ (Warlord) - Big Mek with Warbike, Finkin' Kap and SAG - 120 (My old Wazdakka model) Elite - 3 Meganobz with BW (Killkannon and Ard Case) - 275 Ob-Sec Troop - 10 Grots and 1 Minder - 35 Ob-Sec Troop - 10 Grots and 1 Minder - 35 Heavy - 3 Kustom Mega-Kannons with 3 Ammo Runts and 6 Extra Gretchin - 117 Heavy - 3 Traktor Kannons with 3 Ammo Runts and 3 Extra Gretchin - 108 Fast - Warbuggy with Rokkit - 25 Fast - Warbuggy with Rokkit - 25 Fast - Warbuggy with Rokkit - 25 I had to take more grots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Looks like a lot of fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 2000 CAD 1 HQ - Zhadsnark - 150 HQ - Painboy with Warbike - 75 Fast - 15 Warbikers with Nob (PK/BP) - 310 Fast - 5 Warbikers with Nob (PK) - 125 Fast - 5 Warbikers with Nob (PK) - 125 Fort - Void Shield Generator with 2 Shields - 100 Heavy - 10 Lootas - 140 Heavy - 10 Lootas - 140 Ob-Sec Troop - 10 Grots and 1 Minder - 35 Ob-Sec Troop - 10 Grots and 1 Minder - 35 CAD 2 HQ (Warlord) - Big Mek with Warbike, Finkin' Kap and SAG - 120 (My old Wazdakka model) Elite - 3 Meganobz with BW (Killkannon and Ard Case) - 275 Ob-Sec Troop - 10 Grots and 1 Minder - 35 Ob-Sec Troop - 10 Grots and 1 Minder - 35 Heavy - 3 Kustom Mega-Kannons with 3 Ammo Runts and 6 Extra Gretchin - 117 Heavy - 3 Traktor Kannons with 3 Ammo Runts and 3 Extra Gretchin - 108 Fast - Warbuggy with Rokkit - 25 Fast - Warbuggy with Rokkit - 25 Fast - Warbuggy with Rokkit - 25 Not sure if I actually have that many gretchin/ammo runts. (40 and 4 Minders, plus another 20 and 6 Ammo Runts). I'll have to dig. Okay, so... Got my orks unpacked. Just have to check to see if I have some unassembled grots, but... I have (* is something that's good to go, ** is lacking.) CAD 1: * FW Warboss (Zhadnark) * Painboy on Bike ** 13 Bikes with Nob (PK and BP) (Missing two) * 5 Bikes with Nob (PK and BP) * 5 Bikes with Nob (PK and BP) * VSG (My imperial one works fine) * 10 Lootas * 10 Lootas * 10 Grots and Minder * 10 Grots and Minder CAD 2 * Wazdakka conversion (Big Mek with SAG) * Meganobs and BW ** Grots ** Grots * 3 Kustom Mega Cannons with 3 Ammo Runts and 6 Gretchin * 3 Kustom Traktor Cannons (pending conversion) with 3 Ammo Runts and 6 Extra Gretchin * Warbuggies x3 Extra Stuff not in my list: 7 Nob Bikers (4 PK, 1 Big Choppa/Banner, 1 big choppa, 1 PK super bike) 10 Mawbeasts from Deadzone (Choppa Slugga boys? Kommandos?) 6 More MANz 3 More Warbikes NOS 3 Deffkoptas 15 or so Boys with Guns 5 or so with Stabby bits So I may try to muck around with the extra bits and get something going by swapping some out. Heck, maybe I'll just go whole hog dumb, leave Zhad as my Warlord and take some nob bikers/drop the big guns. They're horrible, but this isn't a competitive event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Looks snazzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indytims Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 I like! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 And 20 more grots on sprue. Yay. Along with Ork Barricades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 I have some ork bikes you could borrow. If i can borrow some stuff in return for the Guardian cup a couple of weeks later 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 I have some ork bikes you could borrow. If i can borrow some stuff in return for the Guardian cup a couple of weeks later I think I'm good to go right now, thanks! You can totally borrow stuff for GC though. Let me know what you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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