Threejacks Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 With the whole slew of points leaks today ive started to work on assembling the rough draft for my "Nagash Bash" army. I think the 2k point level is a good starting point...though I will make lists for the 1k and 2.5k as well.Of course the 1k wont include Nagash,heh. Not all of the Death armies are leaked yet,I dont have a cost for Vamp lords,Coven throne,Hexwraiths and Spirit Hosts...im sure they will be out soon though. At 2k points I can see that a Nagash list will need to take 3 units of either skellies or zombies,or a mix of the two.Those are pretty much the only Battline troops in Death without taking a leadership tax unit.Because Nagash is named,he cant take an artifact so I will at least have one other Leader,,in this case it will be my Necromancer,,he is actually very good with the skellies anyway,being able to LoS wounds to them if hes within 3". Ill probably start with 40 to 50 total in skellies/zombies to make up the 3 core minimum,thats around what I used with him in my UL list from 8th edition.It makes a good bubble wrap for him,making him mostly impossible to port to and take out quickly..but doesnt add much to the killing power of this army,,and thats were I will have problems.I will probably use my Zombie Dragon and Morghasts with him,but that doesnt leave much left..160-200 points or so to maybe bring in some Black Knights or something.This brings me to the conclusion that in order to get some killing power out of this army I will be forced to get Nagash into the fight.He can certainly wreck face but hes not invincible either...16 wnds behind a 3+ with a 4+ ward vs morts is nice,,but he can be worked over in many ways im sure. Next bit of info I need to see leaked is what the scenarios are like and how victory is determined.That could certainly change my strat on this...possibly even making Nagash not viable under the 2500 point range. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Angel Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Yer i'm seeing 2500 pt as the norm if you want to have dragons and the big guys. anything less would just be a few units and a stardrake or dragonlord, and forget Nagash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threejacks Posted June 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Yer i'm seeing 2500 pt as the norm if you want to have dragons and the big guys. anything less would just be a few units and a stardrake or dragonlord, and forget Nagash I dont know...the 2k list I wrote up with Nagash has at least 45 models starting on the board.Sure most all of them are single wound models but as long as the 3 Standard bearers are alive,ill be bringing back 3d6 of them each turn. And adding just another 500 points would mean pretty much just adding a monster to a 2k list. Either way its gonna take some games to see what works out:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 I find it strange that a 2k game has a 4 limit of monsters. Most monsters I've seen are 350+ so fielding 4 is almost not even doable. Like the 'new' beast riders. Thundertusk as battle line means 3 of them and a frostlord. 4 monsters and done with the list. 2k-2.5k is good. The whole battleline thing is just for pitched/matched right? So as a group we can just do points unless we want to do matched sometimes too which I'm fine with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threejacks Posted June 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 My biggest concern is the time each battle takes,,2k is rumored to be around 2-2.5 hr games,,2500 is around 3-3.5 or so they say. Like I say though,,build a list for all 3 of the ranges:) These point ranges are designed for use with the 6 scenarios..but yes if we just want to set a point value and go for it,im sure that would work fine for the published battleplans.Would probably still need to have some restrictions on leaders,behemoths,artiller,,etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Only thing I heard was 2k was about 2hrs. How long is a normal 1v1 game? How long was a normal 1v1 for wfb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_DUB Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Soooooooo.....where can we find the points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 For now there are leaked images all over fb, here, and the grand alliance forums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alindahl Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 K_Dub: hey again : Complete pdf leak for :Death (with tomb king) : http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1467013801995.pdfDestruc : http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1467014074333.pdfOrder : http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1466975348124.pdfChaos : http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1466975545385.pdf Should be complete tell me if something miss !! /cheers.bob. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingpin Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Just made up a 2k point list for Night Goblins. Can't wait for this. I live in Olympia and am going to try and get AoS going again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alindahl Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 I too am very excited! I'm up in Bellingham and maybe just maybe I can get a Hamster to try out AOS again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 I'm building a warclan up as we speak. All brutes all day long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threejacks Posted June 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Generals Handbook review at Baddice,he just posted the link.I think this is how hes addressing all the questions from yesterday,but ive yet to listen to it. http://baddice.co.uk/generals-handbook-review/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 There was a lot of questions on that thread lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Hey again !! AOS spreadsheet calculator !! made by Mr Stinson :) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/116pJQjH73xUdeQHjUyp3l802HcCbiiL3mDeQsWowjsk/edit#gid=0 try it ;) /cheers.bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threejacks Posted June 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Im thinking I need some Blood Knights and another batch of Morghast`s.Especially the Blood Knights,they are some of the most point efficient units in the game now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Those are spendy kits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threejacks Posted June 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Those are spendy kits Indeed they are,though alot of that is becuase they are elite cav with 5 models in the box rather than the usual 3 or even 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 What about the Khorne guys? That's more then 5 for only 1 buck more lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlawKnee Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Back to rats, til i build/buy some burning chariots or find pink tokens lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I'm going to build a 2k roster for now. This is what I've been waiting for. I love building lists even just for theorycrafting lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alindahl Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I want this stinking book in my hands already! They've titillated us for long enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I know. I have so many possibilities floating around. Im still building up my force but I want to make lists lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I can't wait for all the subfactions to have their own allegiance abilities and command traits and spell lores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alindahl Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I can't wait for all the subfactions to have their own allegiance abilities and command traits and spell lores Is that something they are planning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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