Dark Trainer

So Fed played me a great little Necron list that I wanted to try out. Essentially he had 2 mobs of Ork shoota boys with a Big Mek and a KFF (before the FAQ limiting the KFF to actual models).

That said, I'd still like to give this alliance a shot. I need a tip for a CHEAP HQ choice but decent for his points cost? I'm likely going to field 2 squads of 30 slugga boyz (told shoota boyz are better with overwatch and such, but I don't have any shooty ones), my 7 lootas, and some HQ. I don't know my Ork codex well enough yet.

Need help with the HQ mainly (Warboss, weirdboy, etc), then I'll figure out what points I have left for Necrons. I was also just thinking a super cheap HQ, 30 slugga boyz, and my 7 lootas. The only issue was 60 boyz was something you HAD to deal with...

Also, any wargear for the Orks? Nob +big choppa, bosspole, etc?

The strategy is simple, they stand in front of the Necrons as a meat shield and assault when in range...

Right now the list looks something like this:

Necrons:

Overlord (MSS, WS, Res Orb) - 145pts

Destroyer Lord (MSS, WS, Weave) - 160pts

Court (Destruction Cryptek with solar pulse) - 55pts

5 Warriors (Night Scythe) - 165pts

10 Immortals (Night Scythe) - 270pts

6 Wraiths - 210

3 Scarabs - 45pts

3 Spyders - 150pts

Annihilation barge - 90pts

Annihilation barge - 90pts

Annihilation barge - 90pts

Orks:

Warboss (Big choppa) - 65pts

30 Slugga Boyz - 180pts

30 Slugga Boyz - 180pts

7 Lootas - 105pts

2000 point list

Thoughts? Off the bat, I don't really have a good answer for AV 14 though (shy of spyders or maybe wraiths)...

Honestly there's some questions you need to ask yourself.

1) Do you want OMGPWNED J00 type lists, then yeah the latest and greatest codexes are nuts (not now, until the next latest and greatest trumps it (as usual)

2) Since the above is not my style, then ask yourself what type of gameplay excites you?

- Pure shooting and dice chucking, calculating cover, and angles of shots, etc. Then Tau is not only powerful right now, but purely shooty. Even Riptide's can assault at some point, but typically you just take the charges and hide in a corner shooting all game.

- Do you like to assault mainly with shooting as a backup? Then your orks do fine. They haven't been updated, and I hear people belly aching about power lists, but you can't deny 150+ orks in front of you are a threat and tough to deal with.

- If you want both, decent assault and decent shooting, then Marines have always been solid in both. Not over the top, but strong enough. Chapters do matter, but this is part of the synergy of marines (personally I am leaning towards getting rid of my marines, not my style).

That said, just look at how you want to play. This may just be me, but there's my 2 cents.

I'll be there to get my planetary empires game in when we start

I'll be there early around 4pm too, but assembling a model

Hah...Blackjack is the only true game for me at a casino. Reasonable odds that can be played just right.

Other than that, I keep my money....

I'm good for now. But yes, been playing dead island too. Just started act II.

I missed my chance on Dante's, yeah I was going to pass on DS II for now, since you had offered before I think. I was just torn for $3, that just seemed worth it, heh.

Game's only on sale for another hour, but is Dante's inferno any good?

Darksiders II is also going on sale soon, it any good?

I really love my yoga mat. Cut it in 2, cost me $12. I love how it doesn't have raised folds, etc compared to felt.

I'll be there for planetary empires. I think I'll bring X-wing too since I'll probably be there around 4pm, will need something to tide me over

Yeah, thanks for the fun! Kids can't wait to get started on their new minis.

Sounds like I have one already lined up. Thanks! :)

So before I go buy one retail just because Burk said I should.

Just checking to see if anyone wanted to part with a y-wing because they had too many, etc. Just want the 1, pilot cards, dial, upgrades, etc.

So I just learned something else about initial buy in. Some ships include upgrades that others do not. I wanted push the limit, so I had to buy an a-wing to get it for example. Not a big deal, but as you get into the game more, you may find other things like shield upgrades (falcon and slave I) and such might be useful.

Not a deal breaker, but just for those looking to fine tune lists.

The z95 looks like I'm getting at least 2

Damn you Burk. Making me want to spend more money

The reason I don't like y-wings. Isn't because the ion cannon is useful, it's because you can ignore the 30 point ship. Focus on killing the rest of his force, and it's pretty much game over. The y-wing isn't really going to kill anything. So to me it's like starting the game with about 20 points less points.

I agree it's nice if you can use the ion cannon to setup a kill, but the y-wing fills a support only role, rather than a kill role. Just my play style. I like my ships to all be able to contribute equally.

I'll be there about 3:30/4pm/ X-wing burk? Then I'm supposed to get beat up on by Ando, Savion, or Bryan later on...

Yeah, by the end of my Classic (non ironman), I had the mind control resistance on all my team. I had 6 Colonel's and pretty much immune to mind control (not my mech). I actually ended up sneaking into position with my sniper with the ghost armor and 1 rounded the enemy bosses as I moved everything into position. It was definitely more powerful than pre-enemy within.

I think I'll be there. If it's just make up games, I'm not sure what I'll bring. Maybe Xwing :D

WHOA, you don't play with a MECH? The 3rd level paladin mech is insane, also need to research the gun upgrade for it (forget the final one)! I love getting the Healing mist on that durable tank, also upgrade the gun and wow. My mech by the end could outrun all my guys, do 16 damage in a non crit shot, and heal TWICE area affect the whole team for 6hp a pop.

Good point. I didn't noticed the agility differences, but I agree. It'd be nice to see some ships that are 'meh' given a reason to exist. I skipped my Ywings and Awings for that matter. Bwings and Xwings are what I have. Looking at slave 1 and Falcon next likely.

Doesn't he 12pt ship seem a little overpowered!? I mean, Tie's become obsolete now...that's pretty strong.

Defender's always been awesome.

Really concerned this will 'unbalance' a nicely balanced game. Time will tell, hope power creep doesn't hit it.

Yeah, I picked it up on Xbox on demand, no more discs, just load and play. I've beat it twice now, and feel like going again! So much challenge!

I'll be there for my league destruction and to pick up my new toys.

Yeah, I wouldn't spray on a game night. Especially with the volume of people coming tonight. On terrain days there's usually one room being used and fewer peeps.

Fumes are bad joojoo...